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  • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

    Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post


    What part is aluminium?
    The Engine body material is aluminium. The Royal Enfields before 2000 were Cast Iron and were long lasting, never mind howmany times we assemble it for varoius problems.
    See the below Pic, my threads had got rusted and due to this my 8mm CI bolt got rust and broke. Though Aluminium never get rust. Damm!! why did this happen
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    And about the Gearing

    I calculated its RPM at every speed and found that it is not efficient.



    Couldn't agree more, this bike could have used a 6th gear.

    What I meant to say is the bike has lot more power, but it is not transformed to its wheels. Bro.... if You are free then please visit the below link. And I liked your review too..

    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-biking-discussion/29588-calculations-engine-rpm-vehicle-speed-known.html

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    I have done my First service for 800Kms and that too with an engineer who came upon my request. He changed the faulty chain sprocket. And he couldn't detect the actual problem. Later I done it myself by getting fed up with bajaj service. So there I couldn't go with the other brand oil. I shall use the oil you suggested from next services. And they say their oil has a drain period of 10000kms!!! What the hell!!! I say at that time the oil could have become black as coal and will stick to the engine parts. We may need petrol to flush it. I myself had reassembled a cd100 engine for my project. Thats why I know.

    And about the carburettor. I may have to repair it myself. Bajaj wont help
    Last edited by Jackson Andrade; 10-08-2014, 11:04 PM.
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    • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

      Originally posted by Jackson Andrade View Post
      The Engine body material is aluminium.
      Yes I know, I thought you were referring to some other part of the bike body.

      Originally posted by Jackson Andrade View Post
      I have done my First service for 800Kms and that too with an engineer who came upon my request. He changed the faulty chain sprocket. And he couldn't detect the actual problem. Later I done it myself by getting fed up with bajaj service. So there I couldn't go with the other brand oil.
      Many may not know this, but Motul is Bajaj's official oil for kawa and ktms.

      Originally posted by Jackson Andrade View Post
      I shall use the oil you suggested from next services. And they say their oil has a drain period of 10000kms!
      Yes, that's how bajaj overcomes the issue of very crowded and high waiting period at service centers. You may not know this, but official service period was 2.5k km before for UG4. I think it's 5k km for you. Nothing has changed for your bike except for some stickering.

      Originally posted by Jackson Andrade View Post
      And about the carburettor. I may have to repair it myself. Bajaj wont help
      You may not need to repair the carb at all. Just spray carb cleaner from any roadside mechanic.
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      • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

        Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post
        Yes I know, I thought you were referring to some other part of the bike body.



        Many may not know this, but Motul is Bajaj's official oil for kawa and ktms.



        Yes, that's how bajaj overcomes the issue of very crowded and high waiting period at service centers. You may not know this, but official service period was 2.5k km before for UG4. I think it's 5k km for you. Nothing has changed for your bike except for some stickering.



        You may not need to repair the carb at all. Just spray carb cleaner from any roadside mechanic.
        Thanks for the sugession bro....I however replace the oil for every 2500-3000 KMS deciding its color. With reguard to design, For black p150-180 , it is same as 2012 model. But for colored models 2012 stickering was better looking. The black in 220 has some stickers on it.

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        • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

          Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post




          I was going to bring up this thing before.
          In my 5 years experience with many P180s, I have found that there are two distinctive types of P180 (UG4).

          Type 1, (normal):
          A) Very good ground clearance. Doesn't scrape at all.
          B) Main stand doesn't scrape at all even when you're doing knee down cornering.
          C) Forward leaned posture is maintained even with pillion.
          D) Riding with pillion is very tasking on hands.
          E) Rear suspension doesn't close the range on big pot holes even with pillion.

          Type 2, (low-slung):
          A) Not so good ground clearance, scrapes on nuked roads, scraping more often with pillion.
          B) Main stand scrapes very easily when you're doing knee down cornering.
          C) With pillion sitting behind, ergonomics changes, it turns into straight back posture and feels like riding a cruiser like avenger. (I have never ridden avenger but I have theories ).
          D) Even with pillion, handling of the bike is still remains comfortable, considerably.
          E) Rear suspension closes range on big pot holes easily with pillion.

          With my experience let me categories the folks' bikes here into these categories,

          Type 1, (normal) : me, @Taahir
          Type 2, (low-slung): your, @jasmin Rider, @abhichotu.abhi, @anuplakade

          Cause?
          I think bajaj is using two different types of springs in rear suspension.
          If i' correct the first lots of UG4(i mean the ones after post 2008) has got type 1 setup and ones after 20010/11 feels like type 2.Is this because the suspension of type1 is of P200DTSI?.However i feel the newer lots different than those two types

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          • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

            Originally posted by Jackson Andrade View Post
            Modifications planned:
            Yesterday i installed a 55w bulb from a maruthi dealer. I also installed 28smd pilot lamps from ebay. I removed the numberplate bulb to decrease load on battery. During my ride i didnot experience any drastic changes in terms of brightness. I compared the brightness with my friends unicorn & it was almost same. I also checked the battery voltage by keeping the lamp ON and the bike in idle for 10 min. The reading was 12.34 volt same as before.There was no loss in volatage. Now the only option with me is to install avy stator coil and make the optimum use of the bulb.

            The pilot looks awesome with much brighter than the old ones.

            The only time that makes me tension free is when I ride my wheels

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            • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

              Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post
              Some have done it. It's not worth the efforts and secondly P220's rear disk are poorer than our drum brakes.
              I have R15's rear brake assembly, Should i fit it? They are from Nissin.

              Originally posted by Jackson Andrade View Post
              And it doesnt have a auto-off indicator

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              Absence of Auto-Off indicator means switches are probably contact type as found of NS and most of the motorcycles and wont cost a bomb to replace.



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              • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

                Originally posted by Jackson Andrade View Post
                Yesterday i installed a 55w bulb from a maruthi dealer. I also installed 28smd pilot lamps from ebay. I removed the numberplate bulb to decrease load on battery. During my ride i didnot experience any drastic changes in terms of brightness. I compared the brightness with my friends unicorn & it was almost same. I also checked the battery voltage by keeping the lamp ON and the bike in idle for 10 min. The reading was 12.34 volt same as before.There was no loss in volatage. Now the only option with me is to install avy stator coil and make the optimum use of the bulb.

                The pilot looks awesome with much brighter than the old ones.

                Avy's stator coil will make the bulb work at its full efficiency, if possible change the RR to P220's, It can take HID with ease.

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                • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

                  Originally posted by Jackson Andrade View Post
                  Yesterday i installed a 55w bulb from a maruthi dealer. I also installed 28smd pilot lamps from ebay. I removed the numberplate bulb to decrease load on battery. During my ride i didnot experience any drastic changes in terms of brightness. I compared the brightness with my friends unicorn & it was almost same. I also checked the battery voltage by keeping the lamp ON and the bike in idle for 10 min. The reading was 12.34 volt same as before.There was no loss in volatage. Now the only option with me is to install avy stator coil and make the optimum use of the bulb.

                  The pilot looks awesome with much brighter than the old ones.

                  Today i compared with zmr and found my bulb to be 10% brighter. Thats it. Anybody tell me, replacing with avy coil will void warranty? coz my bike is new

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                  • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

                    Originally posted by Jackson Andrade View Post
                    Yesterday i installed a 55w bulb from a maruthi dealer. I also installed 28smd pilot lamps from ebay. I removed the numberplate bulb to decrease load on battery. During my ride i didnot experience any drastic changes in terms of brightness. I compared the brightness with my friends unicorn & it was almost same. I also checked the battery voltage by keeping the lamp ON and the bike in idle for 10 min. The reading was 12.34 volt same as before.There was no loss in volatage. Now the only option with me is to install avy stator coil and make the optimum use of the bulb.

                    The pilot looks awesome with much brighter than the old ones.

                    Same here, not much of the difference with 55W installed. And if you're going to change the stator coil then you'll need to change the RR too as our bikes are full DC.
                    With non-oem bulbs, light spread is increased and that's why the less intensity.

                    Originally posted by RSM2852 View Post
                    I have R15's rear brake assembly, Should i fit it? They are from Nissin.
                    First thing you should know that is this operation isn't plug and play. You'll probably have to change many things upto swing arm (axel, alloy wheel, addition of hydraulic system, procket chain, if not swing arm itself). This could go so expensive that you could sell your P180, pay the difference and get a similar used P220.
                    You also need to understand one more thing is that, even with nissin brakes it won't make the bike brake like an R15 because our bikes are front heavy as opposed to R15 which is balanced. So under drastic braking our bikes are tail happy and with any greatest disk brakes situation will stay the same.

                    If you want to increase the rear braking, just put in new shoes and change the rubber to something soft like piralle. Get a fatter pillion while you're at it.


                    Originally posted by RSM2852 View Post
                    Avy's stator coil will make the bulb work at its full efficiency, if possible change the RR to P220's, It can take HID with ease.
                    Avy coil is single phase whereas RR from P220 is three phase, they are not compatible with each other.

                    Originally posted by Jackson Andrade View Post
                    Today i compared with zmr and found my bulb to be 10% brighter. Thats it. Anybody tell me, replacing with avy coil will void warranty? coz my bike is new
                    Yes it will void the warranty the big time.

                    You're taking so much trouble for nothing. If you're going to change stator coil then you'll have to change the RR too, Avy coil + Ape RR will go around Rs. 2k.

                    For that kind of money you can fit 35W HID without needing to change stator coil or RR. A 35W HID produces more light than 2x 55W halos.

                    Clear your mind.
                    Last edited by lockhrt999; 08-21-2014, 12:15 PM.
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                    • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

                      Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post
                      Some have done it. It's not worth the efforts and secondly P220's rear disk are poorer than our drums.
                      The rear springs can be adjusted for stiffness/softness, I don't think that Bajaj would use 2 different spring setups for same model especially when they share parts across their range of bikes.

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                      • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

                        A big hug buddy !

                        Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
                        The rear springs can be adjusted for stiffness/softness, I don't think that Bajaj would use 2 different spring setups for same model especially when they share parts across their range of bikes.
                        Almost all bikes I compared had the softest setting. You say they share the parts but in current P180 (which is still counted as UG4) they have changed switches and the console.
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                        • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

                          Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post
                          Same here, not much of the difference with 55W installed. And if you're going to change the stator coil then you'll need to change the RR too as our bikes are full DC.
                          With non-oem bulbs, light spread is increased and that's why the less intensity.



                          First thing you should know that is this operation isn't plug and play. You'll probably have to change many things upto swing arm (axel, alloy wheel, addition of hydraulic system, procket chain, if not swing arm itself). This could go so expensive that you could sell your P180, pay the difference and get a similar used P220.
                          You also need to understand one more thing is that, even with nissin brakes it won't make the bike brake like an R15 because our bikes are front heavy as opposed to R15 which is balanced. So under drastic braking our bikes are tail happy and with any greatest disk brakes situation will stay the same.

                          If you want to increase the rear braking, just put in new shoes and change the rubber to something soft like piralle. Get a fatter pillion while you're at it.




                          Avy coil is single phase whereas RR from P220 is three phase, they are not compatible with each other.



                          Yes it will void the warranty the big time.

                          You're taking so much trouble for nothing. If you're going to change stator coil then you'll have to change the RR too, Avy coil + Ape RR will go around Rs. 2k.

                          For that kind of money you can fit 35W HID without needing to change stator coil or RR. A 35W HID produces more light than 2x 55W halos.

                          Clear your mind.
                          Bro your answer is 100% true. I just dont want to install cheap quality hid's. And since it produces white light, it glares the oncoming traffic. And also hid without projector is illegal in india. Since i ride mostly on highways, more light is a basic need to me. In my old passion pro, i was using pass light for highways. Now i need to adjust this for 2 years since it voids my warranty. According to me 55w setup may be much reliable than 35w cheap hid.

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                          • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

                            Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post
                            Same here, not much of the difference with 55W installed. And if you're going to change the stator coil then you'll need to change the RR too as our bikes are full DC.
                            With non-oem bulbs, light spread is increased and that's why the less intensity.



                            First thing you should know that is this operation isn't plug and play. You'll probably have to change many things upto swing arm (axel, alloy wheel, addition of hydraulic system, procket chain, if not swing arm itself). This could go so expensive that you could sell your P180, pay the difference and get a similar used P220.
                            You also need to understand one more thing is that, even with nissin brakes it won't make the bike brake like an R15 because our bikes are front heavy as opposed to R15 which is balanced. So under drastic braking our bikes are tail happy and with any greatest disk brakes situation will stay the same.

                            If you want to increase the rear braking, just put in new shoes and change the rubber to something soft like piralle. Get a fatter pillion while you're at it.




                            Avy coil is single phase whereas RR from P220 is three phase, they are not compatible with each other.



                            Yes it will void the warranty the big time.

                            You're taking so much trouble for nothing. If you're going to change stator coil then you'll have to change the RR too, Avy coil + Ape RR will go around Rs. 2k.

                            For that kind of money you can fit 35W HID without needing to change stator coil or RR. A 35W HID produces more light than 2x 55W halos.

                            Clear your mind.
                            The cost doesn't even come close to 10000INR including new rear alloy wheel, my friend is already running on this setup on P200dtsi and it is surely better than stock, my ride is not stock, it's a 220cc by engine, being the reason i need better braking. Swing arm doesnt need a change, We can fix the rear caliper using the rear brake stay( that black metal tube that holds drum at place), In simple words like it is on a busa. All i want to know is how reliable it is?

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                            • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

                              Originally posted by RSM2852 View Post
                              The cost doesn't even come close to 10000INR including new rear alloy wheel, my friend is already running on this setup on P200dtsi and it is surely better than stock, my ride is not stock, it's a 220cc by engine, being the reason i need better braking. Swing arm doesnt need a change, We can fix the rear caliper using the rear brake stay( that black metal tube that holds drum at place), In simple words like it is on a busa. All i want to know is how reliable it is?
                              It should be reliable if you could weld/attach the caliper directly to swing arm.
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                              • Re: Short Review of 2014 Pulsar 180

                                Originally posted by lockhrt999 View Post
                                It should be reliable if you could weld/attach the caliper directly to swing arm.
                                I see. Thanks for the info

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