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**virendrapareek** · 05-19-2013, 12:41 AM

Re: Engine oil

Hi Shoeb,

Thank you so much for sharing this. I will get this done in my next servicing as my bike touches 31k kilometres. I had no idea of this. Since I am getting all this done, which oil would you recommend? I read a lot of names back there - Shell, Gulf, and Especially motul, so I no not sure. PLease advise. Thank you.

Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post

Every 30,000 kms - It is recommended to remove the cylinder head , manually de-carbonize the piston top(crown),head and polish the valves.
As the carbon gets deposited,the compression increases and the engine feels harsh/rough. FE also goes down a little bit.

Even sibun has mentioned this innumerable times but nobody seem to care.

Parts required :
1. Head gasket
2. Top cover/rocker cover rubber gasket.
3. Head O-ring kit(includes top cover bolt o-ring,ASV o-ring etc..)
4.Exhaust gasket
5.Engine oil
6.Spark plug
7.Air filter(If old/used for more than 6K kms)
Few other parts depending upon the need.

Including labor and parts,this should not cost more than Rs.1000/-

**RohIIT** · 05-19-2013, 12:47 AM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Weird , i had to pay 74530rs for Cbz Xtreme single disc bought previous year september , that included everything even half tank fuel by showroom guys. I guess showroom guys loot on accessories part and my showroom sales guy did registration and tax payment through a agent which took nothing from me , instead he was paid by showroom people. Odd thing was they took 350rs as some transport charge and 500rs for accessories such as rear saree guard and mirrors [MENTION=46224]virendra[/MENTION]pareek : Try shell AX7 10W40 or Mobil 10w30 , shell is semi synth while mobil is mineral , Try Mobil i liked it very much after using Hero oil..Change mineral oil at 1200k max and semi synth at 2-2.5k max.

**shoeb2015** · 05-19-2013, 01:21 AM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Originally posted by virendrapareek View Post

Hi Shoeb,

Thank you so much for sharing this. I will get this done in my next servicing as my bike touches 31k kilometres. I had no idea of this. Since I am getting all this done, which oil would you recommend? I read a lot of names back there - Shell, Gulf, and Especially motul, so I no not sure. PLease advise. Thank you.

In 10W40 grade- Shell AX7 and Veedol Super Swift.
In 10W30 grade- Veedol Premium 4T

Originally posted by s1d View Post

replies in bold...
WHAT ?! probably you dint pay a bribe via an agent

As the topic is OT,I have sent you a PM.

**nishesh.kumar** · 05-20-2013, 10:51 AM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Hi Guys,
Now, the rear disc brakes of my xtreme is giving problem. All of the sudden, there is no compression while pressing the brake pedal. I had changed the rear disk pads to ASK since OEM are too costly

at 23K on odo. I also keep checking the brake fluid level in the reservoir, and do a top-up if required. But still the performance of rear disc brake is not at all up to the mark. Please help me out.
Motorcycle: CBZ- Xtreme DDS
ODO reading: 24.5 K

**SatSon** · 05-20-2013, 01:32 PM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Originally posted by nishesh.kumar View Post

Hi Guys,
Now, the rear disc brakes of my xtreme is giving problem. All of the sudden, there is no compression while pressing the brake pedal. I had changed the rear disk pads to ASK since OEM are too costly

at 23K on odo. I also keep checking the brake fluid level in the reservoir, and do a top-up if required. But still the performance of rear disc brake is not at all up to the mark. Please help me out.
Motorcycle: CBZ- Xtreme DDS
ODO reading: 24.5 K

If brake fluid level is right, then this should be issue due to worn out brake piston.
I had this issue and resolved when the piston is replaced.

**itsmevini123** · 05-20-2013, 01:53 PM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Hi Guys,

As i am facing issue with my front disc brakes, brakes are not effective and feel very unsafe,checked by local mechanic he suggested to change the complete pump (where lever push to a small black box), as the pads are fine even then i have changed to ASK but got no result, so would you guys think will this resolve my brake problem?

Else everything is fine like brake pads, break fluid, caliper, disc plate.

**sibun** · 05-20-2013, 02:05 PM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Originally posted by nishesh.kumar View Post

Hi Guys,
Now, the rear disc brakes of my xtreme is giving problem. All of the sudden, there is no compression while pressing the brake pedal. I had changed the rear disk pads to ASK since OEM are too costly

at 23K on odo. I also keep checking the brake fluid level in the reservoir, and do a top-up if required. But still the performance of rear disc brake is not at all up to the mark. Please help me out.
Motorcycle: CBZ- Xtreme DDS
ODO reading: 24.5 K

Problem is the master cylinder is leaking pressure. Get the pistons and kit changed. It comes as a kit and is called as minor kit. Change it and with it change to new brake fluid, brake will perform like new.

Originally posted by itsmevini123 View Post

Hi Guys,

As i am facing issue with my front disc brakes, brakes are not effective and feel very unsafe,checked by local mechanic he suggested to change the complete pump (where lever push to a small black box), as the pads are fine even then i have changed to ASK but got no result, so would you guys think will this resolve my brake problem?

Else everything is fine like brake pads, break fluid, caliper, disc plate.

Same as above, change the master cylinder piston, it comes as a kit and is priced at 245. It happens as brake fluid gets old and build sludge and as a result the pistons gets damaged. So changing the brake fluid every six months is beneficial.

**itsmevini123** · 05-20-2013, 02:29 PM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Originally posted by sibun View Post

Same as above, change the master cylinder piston, it comes as a kit and is priced at 245. It happens as brake fluid gets old and build sludge and as a result the pistons gets damaged. So changing the brake fluid every six months is beneficial.

Actually I am facing this braking issue from when bike was just completed almost 7-8k now it is almost 20k, thousands of time I reported the same to SVC but they unable to resolve the problem and every time says it is working fine, because it looks like working fine till 30-40 kmph after that if you try to brake hard around 60-70 is feels like hell it does not byte the disc plate to stop the wheel, which feels very scary on roads and after to push the lever very very hard it could not able to lock the tyre, it just the case of lack power in biting the disc plate and half of the lever does not affect anything on the wheel to stop.
So my point is changing of master cylinder would do the job as it didn't work fine ever so how can it be end of his life of any thing and brake fluid is fine I have checked it with a local mechanic and then he suggested to change the pump kit? Please help....

**sibun** · 05-20-2013, 02:43 PM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Originally posted by itsmevini123 View Post

Actually I am facing this braking issue from when bike was just completed almost 7-8k now it is almost 20k, thousands of time I reported the same to SVC but they unable to resolve the problem and every time says it is working fine, because it looks like working fine till 30-40 kmph after that if you try to brake hard around 60-70 is feels like hell it does not byte the disc plate to stop the wheel, which feels very scary on roads and after to push the lever very very hard it could not able to lock the tyre, it just the case of lack power in biting the disc plate and half of the lever does not affect anything on the wheel to stop.
So my point is changing of master cylinder would do the job as it didn't work fine ever so how can it be end of his life of any thing and brake fluid is fine I have checked it with a local mechanic and then he suggested to change the pump kit? Please help....

By pump kit he meant the master cylinder kit. From the description you have given it is a clear case of front piston problem, what is happening is that the pressure you are applying at front brake lever is not transmitting to the lower caliper, also check the bolt which holds the front lever to the calliper, if it is having play, then also brake will not perform optimally. From your description, it is a case of master cylinder leaking compression. If you have still doubt then get the new bybre master cylinder complete that comes in new extreme, and fit it, nothing to worry, there is not a single problem that cannot be solved. Change the master cylinder piston, or else if you have doubt change the complete master cylinder. But first change the kit, will cost only 245 and take only 15 mins to change.

**shoeb2015** · 05-20-2013, 03:11 PM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

@sibun
What's the cost of new master cylinder assembly ? Around Rs.1000/-, no ?

**riazmomin** · 05-20-2013, 05:08 PM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Originally posted by itsmevini123 View Post

Hi Guys, From where I can get Gulf 10W30 in Delhi at what price, has anybody used it before, what changes you saw in performance.

Trust me, Gulf 10w30 is the best oil for CBZ Xtreme. I have been using it since long.
Oil is very consistent in performance, Engine is smoother and revs freely when compared to other oils. The drain period is also high when compared to others (still I change oil every 2500kms).

Got two cans 7 months back for Rs 195 each. But now price has increased to Rs 250/- when I changed oil 3 days back.

**itsmevini123** · 05-20-2013, 05:57 PM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Originally posted by sibun View Post

By pump kit he meant the master cylinder kit. From the description you have given it is a clear case of front piston problem, what is happening is that the pressure you are applying at front brake lever is not transmitting to the lower caliper, also check the bolt which holds the front lever to the calliper, if it is having play, then also brake will not perform optimally. From your description, it is a case of master cylinder leaking compression. If you have still doubt then get the new bybre master cylinder complete that comes in new extreme, and fit it, nothing to worry, there is not a single problem that cannot be solved. Change the master cylinder piston, or else if you have doubt change the complete master cylinder. But first change the kit, will cost only 245 and take only 15 mins to change.

Thanks for your quick reply brother...

, By the pump kit mechanic meant as shown in the image (complete black box) below in the post and yes bolt which holds the front lever to the caliper is tighten properly i have checked it already.

Can you please show me through image that what is 'bybre master cylinder' part is, so that i will not make any mistake and which kit you mentioned which cost only Rs. 245

.

According to me what i know is Master Piston and Pump kit as shown in the image.

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Originally posted by riazmomin View Post

Trust me, Gulf 10w30 is the best oil for CBZ Xtreme. I have been using it since long.
Oil is very consistent in performance, Engine is smoother and revs freely when compared to other oils. The drain period is also high when compared to others (still I change oil every 2500kms).

Got two cans 7 months back for Rs 195 each. But now price has increased to Rs 250/- when I changed oil 3 days back.

Yes, after to heard lots of positive responses I thought to change the engine oil, BTW I am afraid to go beyond the company recommended oil, some says it works fine for some thousand kilometers and then start gives serious problems to engine, Its been how long you using this oil, expect the vibs and smoothness any other performance changes you seen?

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**xtremecbz** · 05-20-2013, 06:13 PM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

I am not getting this logic
When my xtreme fuel is on
the mileage is get is between 45-50
and in reserve my xtreme returns my good mileage of 55

**RohIIT** · 05-20-2013, 08:39 PM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

55km is pretty nice mileage you are getting , while transition from on mode to reserve there is a bit of loss , i have experienced that too.. Try reserve to reserve method it is pretty accurate..can you please share your driving technique ? I also want to improve my skills.

**riazmomin** · 05-20-2013, 09:33 PM

re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

Originally posted by itsmevini123 View Post

Thanks for your quick reply brother...

, By the pump kit mechanic meant as shown in the image (complete black box) below in the post and yes bolt which holds the front lever to the caliper is tighten properly i have checked it already.

Can you please show me through image that what is 'bybre master cylinder' part is, so that i will not make any mistake and which kit you mentioned which cost only Rs. 245

.

According to me what i know is Master Piston and Pump kit as shown in the image.

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Yes, after to heard lots of positive responses I thought to change the engine oil, BTW I am afraid to go beyond the company recommended oil, some says it works fine for some thousand kilometers and then start gives serious problems to engine, Its been how long you using this oil, expect the vibs and smoothness any other performance changes you seen?

Its a 10w30 oil that all existing honda 150cc engines use. So you need not be scared. I used the same oil on my 2007 xtreme and 2009 xtreme all the time. I dont think they were will be any improvement in performance if u change oil. On gulf 10w30, engine runs relaxed, smooth and free reving. My bike reaches to 8000rpm easily.

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