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  • Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
    1. Well kick start cant be installed easily , you will have to deal with the crank shaft , making holes in engine casing, installing the kick start mechanism , altering the gear box , clutch etc etc.

    Its best if you purchase it from factory , even if someone says its possible , never do it its expensive ,waste of time and money.

    you will be losing warrenty on your bike if you do such things.

    2. The comfort must be viewed entirely in your perspective. Its up to you to decide what is best for you .

    Test ride both the bikes before purchasing .
    What about shorter or longer gear version.. which bike have which version, who is best suited for city or who is best suitable for highway????

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    • AFAIK , both bikes are same technically . They just look different from outside.

      If the engine and the gear box are same , then their ratio could be same too (probably).

      Both have the same power output and performance. So just decide and buy the one you find good looking and comfortable.

      In the end what matters is your driving style and how well you maintain your bike !

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      • Originally posted by jammbuster View Post
        What about shorter or longer gear version.. which bike have which version, who is best suited for city or who is best suitable for highway????
        I had read before that Hunk has bit short gearing, also recently some other FM here said the same.

        Comparing the user manuals we had almost arrived at the conclusion that both have same gearing.

        In general perspective, short geared bikes are ideal for city rides.

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        • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
          Really minor and cosmetic damage(that is the carb bowl drain nut) .. don't worry about it . I put a drop of light sewing-machine oil on a carb screw overnight before trying a seldom opened screw on soft screws like those on the carb , and yeah .. use a good correct size driver and be gentle .
          Ah so thats the screw they use to get the water out from the carb - how about using WD50 to loosen the screw ?

          Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
          Please do tell me why i must not use w50 oil
          Hero recommends 10W 30 grade only - you can check the manual if you want - even using 20W 40 makes the bike rev less free - also when you use such a thick oil your bikes top end suffers - mine struggles to go beyond 80Km/hr with the 50 oil (tried it twice with the same result)- also i noted the engine heats up a lot on the thicker oil for some reason - this is all from my own observation only.

          Even i was of the opinion that thicker oils are good but i saw many splendors that have completed 1Lac+ kms without a hitch on normal barrel oil that the ASC use - seen a lot of old Xtremes that have done 70,000 + kms on OE engine oil still running on stock bore - i asked many such owners whose ride have completed so many kms on stock bore and most dont even know what oil SC people put in their ride .

          so i really doubt if running OE grade will reduce your engine life - i am currently running 10w30 honda genuine oil and bike revs a lot more freely - and it runs a lot quieter also - now splendors and passion makes more noise compared to my ride .

          I really see no use for a 50W grade paste in a honda .

          Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
          i will share my knowledge about why you its ok to use w50 .
          Yeah please do .

          Originally posted by sibun View Post
          Tomorrow is an interview, so i am busy with it. As soon as interview is over i will be able to reply to all your queries. I will be also able to post the DIY for chain cleaning and how to open chain cover for extreme/hunks. Also review of 15T front sprocket is awaiting which i will reply tomorrow as i have not been able to ride my extreme due to rains and i am riding my joy.


          Cost me Rs 150 from honda SC - i will try installing it on my own but will wait for your DIY guide first - if you can please add how to remove the front sprocket correctly in your guide .

          Originally posted by jammbuster View Post

          2) which bike is suits good for highway and which suits for city driving... i heard somewhere.. difference of long gear ratio & shorter gear ration.. IS IT SOO.. if yes then on which bike it is.. cbz or hunk.. please explain to me...
          Why not go for the unicorn instead ?
          Last edited by sarbanoxley; 09-03-2012, 08:37 PM.
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          • Originally posted by SatSon View Post
            I had read before that Hunk has bit short gearing, also recently some other FM here said the same.

            Comparing the user manuals we had almost arrived at the conclusion that both have same gearing.

            In general perspective, short geared bikes are ideal for city rides.
            hows your ride ? still drinking oil
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            • need help regarding front brake pads.. i will change my rear one with ask/anl whichever available locally. but i m still unaware about the front one .which one do v have as stock and which 1 would be better for replacement ask/kbx or anythng else ?
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              • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                hows your ride ? still drinking oil
                yes ofcourse...
                feels better after recent carb tuning and spark plug cleaning...

                hey I had tried to reply to your PM again, but it fails, dont know what happens really. Which was the best ASC in chennai per your discussion with PSR and other FM's from Chennai?

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                • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                  Ah so thats the screw they use to get the water out from the carb - how about using WD50 to loosen the screw ?



                  Hero recommends 10W 30 grade only - you can check the manual if you want - even using 20W 40 makes the bike rev less free - also when you use such a thick oil your bikes top end suffers - mine struggles to go beyond 80Km/hr with the 50 oil (tried it twice with the same result)- also i noted the engine heats up a lot on the thicker oil for some reason - this is all from my own observation only.

                  Even i was of the opinion that thicker oils are good but i saw many splendors that have completed 1Lac+ kms without a hitch on normal barrel oil that the ASC use - seen a lot of old Xtremes that have done 70,000 + kms on OE engine oil still running on stock bore - i asked many such owners whose ride have completed so many kms on stock bore and most dont even know what oil SC people put in their ride .

                  so i really doubt if running OE grade will reduce your engine life - i am currently running 10w30 honda genuine oil and bike revs a lot more freely - and it runs a lot quieter also - now splendors and passion makes more noise compared to my ride .

                  I really see no use for a 50W grade paste in a honda .



                  Yeah please do .








                  ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil - Team-BHP

                  check out that link , its from team bhp .

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                    • Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                      yes ofcourse...
                      feels better after recent carb tuning and spark plug cleaning...
                      I would strongly advise you to get the engine fixed ASAP - i almost got my engine seized as suddenly my bore started drinking oil more severely - its very risky and i dont want you to suffer like me - also try to get the USHA bore kit from hero parts distributor near LIC - i ran around a lot to find the USHA kit but didnt succeed - the parts guy told me earlier that it will be available this month - he only had SAL kits with him that time - so give him a call .

                      I dont know how long this SAL kit i recently installed will last so better get the USHA ones that sibun so highly recommends .




                      Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                      hey I had tried to reply to your PM again, but it fails, dont know what happens really. Which was the best ASC in chennai per your discussion with PSR and other FM's from Chennai?
                      No big ASC in chennai will allow you to watch when they open your engine - but nagappa auto guys told me they can let me watch when their head mech opens my engine - but then they have a reputation of changing stuff
                      that doesnt need any change - this i sadly exp. myself .The only silver lining is they might rip you off but you get only genuine parts .

                      No matter which SC you take your ride to make sure they give you warranty for the engine work - its 6K or 6months whichever is earlier .

                      I think its one of your browser addons thats causing this PM issue -try a diff. browser like chrome .
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                      • Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
                        ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil - Team-BHP

                        check out that link , its from team bhp .
                        Thats one of the first articles i read when i jumped on the synthetic oil bandwagon - have read a lot more on oil than you might think - check some my old posts on oil thread you will know .
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                        • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                          Ah so thats the screw they use to get the water out from the carb - how about using WD50 to loosen the screw ?
                          Unscrewing it will drain the contents of the carburetor float bowl thru the drain tube hole . If the fuel tap is open at that time , it'll drain the whole tank thru it too .
                          Yes , WD40 a drop of kero or diesel etc serves the same purpose overnight ... penetrate the screw threads and loosen it .
                          Last edited by Pinaki; 09-04-2012, 01:08 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
                            when i was using the HH 10w30 oil , engine was quite rough , esp on long ride and started heating up pretty fast.

                            I switched to 10w40 , ride was lot smoother , gear shift smoother.
                            I really dont know what oil your SC put on your bike but you should try 10w 30 oil that honda sells in their ASC - think they even stopped selling
                            their 20W 40 oil all together - i bet honda knows what they are doing no ? .

                            Just go to any hero SC and see the odo readings of some of their 100cc bikes - they all run mostly on some crap barrel oil - i bet the 10w 30 bottle i get from the HONDA ASC is a far better than that barrel crap from hero.

                            The point is
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                            • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                              Unscrewing it will drain the contents on the carburetor float bowl thru the drain tube hole . If the fuel tap is open at that time , it'll drain the whole tank thru it too .
                              Yes , WD40 a drop of kero or diesel etc serves the same purpose overnight ... penetrate the screw threads and loosen it .
                              ah so i should shut off the fuel supply before opening that screw thasnks for clearing that up .
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                              • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                                There are only two conditions during which petrol would come out of that bowl drain tube . i) when the carb bowl drain screw(nut) is unscrewed ii) there is an overflow (fuel level is excessive) in the float bowl . The second condition occurs from malfunction of the float-valve mechanism(from may possible causes), nothing to do with the jets . Infact you can try opening just the float bowl and cleaning it and the float+valve thingy and spray some carb cleaner up into the jets , with the carb still mounted on the bike . That's what the ASC mechanics do when you ask them to clean the carb .
                                Pinaki da, But if the drain nut is already screwed in place (by default), why should fuel come out of it? (I know, going by my silly logic, then the float will not get a space to drain out it's contents!) Like what is happening in my case. Unscrewing it will lead to complete drain - that I understand. But am confused about the mechanism of this drain screw, a bit. Is that screw partially screwed in place? Maybe leaves some gap for fuel drops to trickle down the drain pipe from the float? I searched over the internet but pics seem to confuse me even further. Any links to pics on this/some other xbhp threads? Actually, I find this forum easier to relate to and understand things and perhaps I am getting used to getting such in-depth info here

                                Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                                I had read before that Hunk has bit short gearing, also recently some other FM here said the same.

                                Comparing the user manuals we had almost arrived at the conclusion that both have same gearing.

                                In general perspective, short geared bikes are ideal for city rides.
                                Buddy, agreed with you. But the feel of a 'want' of a 6th gear on our Hunks is more than the same feel on the Xtremes? Also the idle + rev sounds are different on both bikes. I wonder what is the catch here!

                                Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                                hey I had tried to reply to your PM again, but it fails, dont know what happens really.
                                Other than a mere browser issue, I guess his xbhp inbox is already full and hence the error! Please check it out both of you!
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