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  • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
    I really dont know what oil your SC put on your bike but you should try 10w 30 oil that honda sells in their ASC - think they even stopped selling
    their 20W 40 oil all together - i bet honda knows what they are doing no ? .

    Just go to any hero SC and see the odo readings of some of their 100cc bikes - they all run mostly on some crap barrel oil - i bet the 10w 30 bottle i get from the HONDA ASC is a far better than that barrel crap from hero.



    The point is

    Well the point is , even ay higher temperatures , you want your oil to retain the viscosity and be a liquid and not evaporate.
    w50 grade oil tends to retain the viscosity even at higher temperatures compared to w40 or w30.

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    • Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
      AFAIK , both bikes are same technically . They just look different from outside.

      If the engine and the gear box are same , then their ratio could be same too (probably).

      Both have the same power output and performance. So just decide and buy the one you find good looking and comfortable.

      In the end what matters is your driving style and how well you maintain your bike !
      Yes that's the most important thing... how you love and maintain your bike

      by the way i dont like unicorn.... so .. its out of question...

      Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
      I would strongly advise you to get the engine fixed ASAP - i almost got my engine seized as suddenly my bore started drinking oil more severely - its very risky and i dont want you to suffer like me - also try to get the USHA bore kit from hero parts distributor near LIC - i ran around a lot to find the USHA kit but didnt succeed - the parts guy told me earlier that it will be available this month - he only had SAL kits with him that time - so give him a call .

      I dont know how long this SAL kit i recently installed will last so better get the USHA ones that sibun so highly recommends .






      No big ASC in chennai will allow you to watch when they open your engine - but nagappa auto guys told me they can let me watch when their head mech opens my engine - but then they have a reputation of changing stuff
      that doesnt need any change - this i sadly exp. myself .The only silver lining is they might rip you off but you get only genuine parts .

      No matter which SC you take your ride to make sure they give you warranty for the engine work - its 6K or 6months whichever is earlier .

      I think its one of your browser addons thats causing this PM issue -try a diff. browser like chrome .

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      • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
        Unscrewing it will drain the contents of the carburetor float bowl thru the drain tube hole . If the fuel tap is open at that time , it'll drain the whole tank thru it too .
        Yes , WD40 a drop of kero or diesel etc serves the same purpose overnight ... penetrate the screw threads and loosen it .
        So if this screw is closed (as normal), then, only the excess petrol will come out thorugh the overflow tube, right?

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        • Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post
          Buddy, agreed with you. But the feel of a 'want' of a 6th gear on our Hunks is more than the same feel on the Xtremes? Also the idle + rev sounds are different on both bikes. I wonder what is the catch here!



          Other than a mere browser issue, I guess his xbhp inbox is already full and hence the error! Please check it out both of you!
          Yes, I've felt the need of a 6th gear sometimes, may be rather than a 6th gear they would've given bit lower ratio for top gear. I dont know about the case of XTreme, I never rode one.

          I'm using Chrome only(IE in office) and I replied to PM's in Chrome, but didnt work. And I've only 3 PM's.

          @sarbanoxley - is your inbox full then?

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          • Originally posted by jammbuster View Post
            Yes that's the most important thing... how you love and maintain your bike

            by the way i dont like unicorn.... so .. its out of question...
            What other bikes are you looking at ? do test ride every bike , not only hunk /cbz .

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            • Originally posted by SatSon View Post
              Yes, I've felt the need of a 6th gear sometimes, may be rather than a 6th gear they would've given bit lower ratio for top gear. I dont know about the case of XTreme, I never rode one.

              I'm using Chrome only(IE in office) and I replied to PM's in Chrome, but didnt work. And I've only 3 PM's.

              @sarbanoxley - is your inbox full then?

              would appreciate a 6th gear and a fuel injector for xtreme .

              I ve dreamt of having a projector xenon lights , FI , a bit more power output from the engine and a kill switch too.

              All these features in xtreme would make it the best selling bike in 150cc category. What do u guys feel ?

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              • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                I would strongly advise you to get the engine fixed ASAP - i almost got my engine seized as suddenly my bore started drinking oil more severely - its very risky and i dont want you to suffer like me - also try to get the USHA bore kit from hero parts distributor near LIC - i ran around a lot to find the USHA kit but didnt succeed - the parts guy told me earlier that it will be available this month - he only had SAL kits with him that time - so give him a call .

                I dont know how long this SAL kit i recently installed will last so better get the USHA ones that sibun so highly recommends .

                No big ASC in chennai will allow you to watch when they open your engine - but nagappa auto guys told me they can let me watch when their head mech opens my engine - but then they have a reputation of changing stuff
                that doesnt need any change - this i sadly exp. myself .The only silver lining is they might rip you off but you get only genuine parts .

                No matter which SC you take your ride to make sure they give you warranty for the engine work - its 6K or 6months whichever is earlier .

                I think its one of your browser addons thats causing this PM issue -try a diff. browser like chrome .
                Thanks for the advice and valid points.
                I need to get this fixed soon, may be next month.
                I do ensure the oil never falls below the min. mark, so hope I can ride like this for 1 more month.

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                • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                  I really dont know what oil your SC put on your bike but you should try 10w 30 oil that honda sells in their ASC - think they even stopped selling
                  their 20W 40 oil all together - i bet honda knows what they are doing no ? .

                  Just go to any hero SC and see the odo readings of some of their 100cc bikes - they all run mostly on some crap barrel oil - i bet the 10w 30 bottle i get from the HONDA ASC is a far better than that barrel crap from hero.



                  The point is

                  when ever i used to leave my bike for service at the ASC , they say they have replaced the oil and tie an empty engine oil can to the saree guard using an old dirty plastic cover , saying its a "proof".

                  May be my experience with HH 10w30 oil was bad, but i loved the shell semi synthetic 10w40 . A lot of my friends have used 10w50 oils on their bike and they have never complained about losing top speed or anything else.

                  In fact they all said engine was a lot smoother after using it.
                  Last edited by girimajiananth; 09-04-2012, 01:48 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by riazmomin View Post
                    What change can you guys see in the below photo

                    you removed the rear view mirrors too !

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                    • my xtreme has completed 1.2k and recently i noticed a clicking sound from rear(chain?)....the clicking sound is mostly heard during corners and at low speeds but at higher speeds no sounds are present.....

                      at first i thought loose chain to be the culprit hence tightened and greased the chain at local mech ....the sound has reduced but is still present.....

                      anyone else experiencing the same?...

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                      • Sorry for late replies to everyone , came home late .
                        Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                        I really dont know what oil your SC put on your bike but you should try 10w 30 oil that honda sells in their ASC - think they even stopped selling
                        their 20W 40 oil all together - i bet honda knows what they are doing no ? .
                        Just go to any hero SC and see the odo readings of some of their 100cc bikes - they all run mostly on some crap barrel oil - i bet the 10w 30 bottle i get from the HONDA ASC is a far better than that barrel crap from hero...
                        Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
                        Well the point is , even ay higher temperatures , you want your oil to retain the viscosity and be a liquid and not evaporate.
                        w50 grade oil tends to retain the viscosity even at higher temperatures compared to w40 or w30.
                        That is all well , but as you go on to using heavier and heavier oil(read more viscous) to manage the heat .. the engine gets to contend with a negative force . Parasitic drag . This is the dragging frictional loss of power in the engine internally owing to it's parts moving in oil . This is what makes a 20w50 oil make the engine rev less freely and lose fuel miles by a couple of kms . Not that 0w30 hasn't any , it too has it but a lot less than say 10w30 . Least parasitic drag would be if the engine could work with air only and no oil , but alas !
                        So we have to find the right balance of cost,ambient temperature,engine-lubrication,parasitic-drag and our intended usage of the engine .
                        By my feelings , regular mineral 20w40 grade or 10w40 grade suffices for ordinary street uses I put my bike in during the main seasons in my locale (greater Indian plains) ... I would dare say does splendidly too .
                        Going for 10w50,15w50 or 20w50 would produce unacceptable amount of that parasitic thing for me , I concluded .


                        Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post
                        Pinaki da, But if the drain nut is already screwed in place (by default), why should fuel come out of it? (I know, going by my silly logic, then the float will not get a space to drain out it's contents!) Like what is happening in my case. Unscrewing it will lead to complete drain - that I understand. But am confused about the mechanism of this drain screw, a bit. Is that screw partially screwed in place? Maybe leaves some gap for fuel drops to trickle down the drain pipe from the float? I searched over the internet but pics seem to confuse me even further. Any links to pics on this/some other xbhp threads? Actually, I find this forum easier to relate to and understand things and perhaps I am getting used to getting such in-depth info here
                        Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                        So if this screw is closed (as normal), then, only the excess petrol will come out thorugh the overflow tube, right?
                        Satson'Jee is right - it is kinda difficult to illustrate it with pics since it's a 3 dimension thing . It shall become so simple to understand after you have opened and cleaned only the float bowl once . I shall try to explain it in very simple language .
                        The drain hole at the bottom of the float bowl has two sources . i) one that is stoppered by the drain screw ii) a long brass snorkel kinda tube which stands straight up and up to the level where the float bowl meets the carburetor main body (the top of this tube is open) . So fuel will flow out and drain the float bowl empty i) when the drain screw is unscrewed ii) when the fuel level in the float bowl goes above the top of the snorkel like upright tube (which it never should normally) . Of course, the snorkel tube doesn't drain the bowl empty, but just to the level of it's open top end . If the fuel petcock is open at that time , the float shall fall low in the bowl and open the float valve , refilling the bowl with new fuel from tank . This cycle going on untill the supply from fuel tank thru the petcock ends .
                        Consider the cistern in your toilet which has a similar mechanism . It also has a float and valve which cyclically refills the cistern with fresh water from overhead tank . It also has a small opening at a high level on the wall of the cistern , to overflow excess water above that level .
                        Last edited by Pinaki; 09-05-2012, 02:10 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by vickul View Post
                          my xtreme has completed 1.2k and recently i noticed a clicking sound from rear(chain?)....the clicking sound is mostly heard during corners and at low speeds but at higher speeds no sounds are present.....

                          at first i thought loose chain to be the culprit hence tightened and greased the chain at local mech ....the sound has reduced but is still present.....

                          anyone else experiencing the same?...

                          I feel the same so many times.After tightening the chain it disappear but few days later its back there. also my chain gets loose every now and then
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                          • From where are you buying the bottle da? I have not bought it yet, but intend to. And AFAIK it was around ~220-240 INR (at least in Kolkata), nearly the same as HH OE oil. (Cheap)Orange coloured bottle

                            Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                            Satson'Jee is right - it is kinda difficult to illustrate it with pics since it's a 3 dimension thing . It shall become so simple to understand after you have opened and cleaned only the float bowl once . I shall try to explain it in very simple language .
                            The drain hole at the bottom of the float bowl has two sources . i) one that is stoppered by the drain screw ii) a long brass snorkel kinda tube which stands straight up and up to the level where the float bowl meets the carburetor main body (the top of this tube is open) . So fuel will flow out and drain the float bowl empty i) when the drain screw is unscrewed ii) when the fuel level in the float bowl goes above the top of the snorkel like upright tube (which it never should normally) . Of course, the snorkel tube doesn't drain the bowl empty, but just to the level of it's open top end . If the fuel petcock is open at that time , the float shall fall low in the bowl and open the float valve , refilling the bowl with new fuel from tank . This cycle going on untill the supply from fuel tank thru the petcock ends .
                            Consider the cistern in your toilet which has a similar mechanism . It also has a float and valve which cyclically refills the cistern with fresh water from overhead tank . It also has a small opening at a high level on the wall of the cistern , to overflow excess water above that level .
                            Armed with your words and insight, I believe I can open the carb myself and do some basic cleaning. Thanks!
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                            • hmm.. i kinda agree , If 10w30 is too thin and 10w50 is too thick , is 10w40 ideal ?

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                              • Originally posted by vickul View Post
                                my xtreme has completed 1.2k and recently i noticed a clicking sound from rear(chain?)....the clicking sound is mostly heard during corners and at low speeds but at higher speeds no sounds are present.....

                                at first i thought loose chain to be the culprit hence tightened and greased the chain at local mech ....the sound has reduced but is still present.....

                                anyone else experiencing the same?...

                                i ve never faced such problems , did you try with the ASC ?

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