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  • Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
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    @ All
    Honda mineral 10W30 has done just over 500 kms and its showing the true colour. Did a 50 km highway ride (70-80 kmph) at not-s0-low ambient temp.
    And it was hell in my engine Vibration was so bad that I couldnt keep my feet on the pegs.
    MORAL : It cant handle the heat even at moderate ambient temp. Its fantastic in winter, horrible in summer.

    Thats why i stopped using mineral oils for good.

    whats your ODO reading ?

    What oil are you planning to use next ?

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    • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
      Brakes it is then . Overheating can damage or even warp the wheel , but that depends on the extent and duration of the heat of course . i.e possible but unlikely .
      Are your brake shoes new ? If so, have the wheel dismounted and give the brake shoe surface and the drum a good rubdown with sandpaper and dust off with air/wipe off with clean dry cloth (don't blow or inhale that dust, it's carcinogen) . At the same time take out the brake cam and clean it good , good time to clean the backing plate etc too . Put a very very thin layer of grease(little bit only) on the cam and pivot/pivot post refit everything . Check if brake springs are ok(better replace those cheap springs) . Check that the cam is operating freely and returning in a snap by the action of the springs alone i.e not getting stuck at all . No hesitation allowed .
      Be careful not to contaminate the brake shoe & drum surface with anything oily etc . For this work you need not visit service , any local tyre repair guy can remove wheel and refit plenty fine . You can do the cleaning , sanding and little grease yourself . I do this kind of service on the brakes once a year before monsoon . Brakes are lifesavers .

      It is normal for cast wheels to conduct the heat away from the brake drum & wheel hub and get warm(unlike wire-spokes wheel) . It is also normal for new brake shoes to rub the brake drum a bit because of normal manufacturing imperfections and then settle down in a coupla hundred kms or so . So it gets hot during those initial kms .
      But not to the extent you are experiencing . My guess is that your brake cam is not returning to fully disengaged position quickly enough . Also make sure you are not acquiring that habit of riding the brake pedal(and the brake pedal arrangement is free too) - though I know you are very conscious rider ... sometimes that habit creeps in quite inadvertently .
      I kept the brake pedal very loose first then after the heating issue i adjusted it too tight...will rectify it today . Will do all the things you told and i just know a good mech outside who will do it perfectly .This time i will buy some multipurpose grease and will get the springs replaced as well they lasted more than 40k already .This time i will watch and learn when the mech opens the rear wheel - next time onwards will do it myself - It will be more easy if sibun makes a DIY for rear wheel service .
      Last edited by sarbanoxley; 09-15-2012, 01:39 PM.
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      • Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
        Please don’t come to a conclusion so earlier. Words from the experts and experienced persons like you will be taken in the verbal meaning itself by new bikers. Heating of alloy is common in all bikes with alloy wheels. It was once discussed in the GS thread and I have checked the wheel of a number of bikes.
        The heat on the tire of a bike ridden for 50 or more kms continuously is more than the heat on the hub of the wheel at that time. And the heat felt then at the outer – near the tire – portion of the alloy is more than the portion near the hub. But surely the heat generated from braking has its own role in this phenomenon.
        It is true that this heat was negligible when I filled nitrogen in the tire.
        Many of us are using their bikes for daily long trips and a few have done saddle sores on their bikes. Nobody has complained about warping of tire due to this heat. So, just ignore it. The mechanics have nothing to do here.
        And the cold hub after his 4 kms riding proves that the brake pad is not always in contact with the hub while riding.
        I dont think there is any problem with my tyre and the mech confirmed this too. yeah that 4 kms i didnt apply any rear brake and the alloys were cold when i stopped the bike and as soon as i stated using the rear brake the heating started.
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        • Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
          Thanks. Will try changing the valve.



          Thats exactly what I did and it works!

          @ All
          Honda mineral 10W30 has done just over 500 kms and its showing the true colour. Did a 50 km highway ride (70-80 kmph) at not-s0-low ambient temp.
          And it was hell in my engine Vibration was so bad that I couldnt keep my feet on the pegs.
          MORAL : It cant handle the heat even at moderate ambient temp. Its fantastic in winter, horrible in summer.
          I thought it was my new bore that was causing the heating issue - i agree it does heat up a lot on the honda oil - sometimes i could even feel the heat in my feet slightly but the heat is not as bad as you explained - it feels just like a warm air thats it but if you cant even keep the feet on the pegs then something is seriously wrong - i mean i did 200km trip on honda oil but never it became so hot that i cant even keep my feet on the footpeg and i dont feel any vibration also .

          You can look at gulf 10W 30 its a good option .
          Last edited by sarbanoxley; 09-15-2012, 01:55 PM.
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          • Originally posted by SatSon View Post
            You mean the 4 long screws standing on the crank case, on which the bore/head are fitted?
            They do not give up so easily. From the pic I feel this to be a gasket problem. Please, ask the mechanic to double check.
            Yeah thats the one but will do it only on the next oil change as the oil currently has run only 300kms will wait for it to complete another 1000kms - till then
            i will wipe the area clean and see if it leaks again and keep my eye on the oil level as well.
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            • Originally posted by sibun View Post
              Do not worry about alloy heating as it is normal. ASK brake shoe has more bite because of more friction so it heats up quick which is perfectly normal.
              And from the pictures that you have posted it doesn't seems to leak from bore so only head needs to be opened. But i may be wrong as i haven't personally seen the bike. If you open the bore then ask them to fit the rings properly as new rings have already set.
              One thing you can do which will not disturb rings setting is that ask the mechanic to slide the bore such that only a part of piston comes out, until the ends of rings. That is the rings shouldn't come out of bore. Only the piston should come out till the gudgeon pin. Remove the lock and push out the pin and remove the cylinder with the piston. After work is complete again insert the bore with piston and fit the piston pin and insert the bore. In this way the rings are not disturbed.
              Ok thanks Sibun i have ANL pad in the back and its newdone less than 1k i think .

              Thats a neat idea will talk to the SC mech if he can do that - sounds simple anyway .

              Today was a bad day - i planned to go on a 500km trip but all my electricals failed at once - the RPM needle was jumping all over the place - the bike wouldnt start even after 10 kicks -no indicator/horn/headlight - started it only after giving full throttle - took it to SC and they are saying my UPS battery is only having 10V - they are charging it for 5 hrs then will call me to tell the status - till yesterday everything was fine - then how come the battery gone bonkers in one day ? maybe the mech put the wrong wire in the battery terminal as i had to remove the red wire to connect the UPS battery
              Last edited by sarbanoxley; 09-15-2012, 01:57 PM.
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              • Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
                Thats why i stopped using mineral oils for good.

                whats your ODO reading ?

                What oil are you planning to use next ?
                Odo reads 15.7K
                Thinking of switching to SS. Problem is sourcing one. I will need to ride 150 km in total

                Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                I thought it was my new bore that was causing the heating issue - i agree it does heat up a lot on the honda oil - sometimes i could even feel the heat in my feet slightly but the heat is not as bad as you explained - it feels just like a warm air thats it but if you cant even keep the feet on the pegs then something is seriously wrong - i mean i did 200km trip on honda oil but never it became so hot that i cant even keep my feet on the footpeg and i dont feel any vibration also .

                You can look at gulf 10W 30 its a good option .
                Sir, you misread me. I dint say anything about over heating. In fact, engine was not at all over heated after the ride. Only problem was the vibration. It was due to vibes that i couldn't touch the foot pegs
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                • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                  . Today was a bad day - i planned to go on a 500km trip but all my electricals failed at once - the RPM needle was jumping all over the place - the bike wouldnt start even after 10 kicks -no indicator/horn/headlight - started it only after giving full throttle - took it to SC and they are saying my UPS battery is only having 10V - they are charging it for 5 hrs then will call me to tell the status - till yesterday everything was fine - then how come the battery gone bonkers in one day ? maybe the mech put the wrong wire in the battery terminal as i had to remove the red wire to connect the UPS battery
                  You were warned that time about the two red wires you used to connect your ups battery. If I remember it right it was PSR. A stitch in time saves nine. After you connect the battery(use red wire for + and black for --). check all your dc gadgets. Reverse polarity can do harm
                  Last edited by ekm-biker; 09-15-2012, 04:01 PM.
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                  • can any one tell me the camshaft changing labour charge in a authorised svc for cbz extreme ?
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                    • Hi guys!! i bought a new HH Hunk dual disk last week, Im very much new to this forum ,Please anyone can tell me what is the issue with my bike,which is getting clicking noise during 1000 to 2500 rpm in engine after heat up say like after approx 10km run .Please help me with a solution

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                      • Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
                        Odo reads 15.7K
                        Thinking of switching to SS. Problem is sourcing one. I will need to ride 150 km in total


                        Dont know if its possible or not , did you try buying online ? is it available online ? where do you stay ?

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                        • Originally posted by Imran Syed View Post
                          Hi guys!! i bought a new HH Hunk dual disk last week, Im very much new to this forum ,Please anyone can tell me what is the issue with my bike,which is getting clicking noise during 1000 to 2500 rpm in engine after heat up say like after approx 10km run .Please help me with a solution
                          Not sure about your problem , but do you hear the clicking noise when you are riding ? or do you hear the clicking noise when you have turned off the engine after a long ride ?

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                          • Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
                            Not sure about your problem , but do you hear the clicking noise when you are riding ? or do you hear the clicking noise when you have turned off the engine after a long ride ?
                            No sir, its only when the engine is hot & during low speed or at idle ,no sound after turn off

                            Something is moving with a clicking noise inside , noticeable at idle or at low speed
                            Last edited by Imran Syed; 09-15-2012, 07:49 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Imran Syed View Post
                              No sir, its only when the engine is hot & during low speed or at idle ,no sound after turn off

                              Something is moving with a clicking noise inside , noticeable at idle or at low speed
                              May be It is sound produced by the expansion of catalytic converters inside your bikes silencer .It is kept for reducing the pollusion levels . so nothing to worry.
                              If still in doubt ASAP contact your ASC.
                              Last edited by ekm-biker; 09-15-2012, 08:15 PM.
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                              • Spoke with ASC today..

                                Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                                Since this is a metal part, I believe insurance will cover this. But there are some exclusions to this; you may check with the ASC guys, they will advise you regarding how you need to inform this to insurance guys for claiming it. Probably you'll have to write a story to present before them



                                Unicorn tank for OP's new CBZ? . If its a direct fit also, how the bike will look like !
                                The ASC guy suggests we make the dent BIGGER and claim insurance. Seems insurance will cover 90% of the new tank price. 10% still feels heavy for something that was not my fault.

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