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  • Originally posted by ekm-biker View Post
    May be It is sound produced by the expansion of catalytic converters inside your bikes silencer .It is kept for reducing the pollusion levels . so nothing to worry.
    If still in doubt ASAP contact your ASC.
    sir ,sound is in the engine during idling or at low rpm when engine is hot, not after turn off, silencer is fine no sound in it

    ASC guy told me ,its a small issue may be,will check it in 1st service & told me to ride till 500-750km & come for 1st service, if something is really wrong will rectify at our cost
    Last edited by Imran Syed; 09-15-2012, 09:08 PM.

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    • Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
      Odo reads 15.7K
      Thinking of switching to SS. Problem is sourcing one. I will need to ride 150 km in total
      You cannot get it from Thodupuzha?
      What about Focuz spares in bypass road(near to Supplyco)?
      They're authorized spare dealer for Hero and many others.
      You can even check for Chain-Sprocket kit there.

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      • Originally posted by ekm-biker View Post
        You were warned that time about the two red wires you used to connect your ups battery. If I remember it right it was PSR. A stitch in time saves nine. After you connect the battery(use red wire for + and black for --). check all your dc gadgets. Reverse polarity can do harm
        Yes i was warned by PSR and pinaki sir but fortunately the mech didnt mess it up.... in fact he took it upon himself and used some insulation tape to mark the terminals ...so i dont mess it up later .

        Just got the bike from SC the battery is showing only 11V even after 6 hrs of charging ...so i got a EXIDE chloride UPS battery for Rs 810 from a nearby exide dealer...this new battery was showing 12.96V and got it installed at the SC ....now the bike starts in a single kick and everything is back to normal.

        Can someone explain how a bad battery could cause starting problem ?

        @Sinbun ji i asked the mech to remove the bore exactly like you explained and he confirmed thats how he removes it as its also very easy to fit back .

        OT : i dont like the smileys when i click on the "more" option ....they are downright ugly .
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        • Originally posted by Imran Syed View Post
          No sir, its only when the engine is hot & during low speed or at idle ,no sound after turn off

          Something is moving with a clicking noise inside , noticeable at idle or at low speed
          at first even i thought its the noise from silencer catalytic converter , but from what you say , it sounds strange to me , never came across such a problem

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          • Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
            Please don’t come to a conclusion so earlier. Words from the experts and experienced persons like you will be taken in the verbal meaning itself by new bikers. Heating of alloy is common in all bikes with alloy wheels. It was once discussed in the GS thread and I have checked the wheel of a number of bikes .....
            And the cold hub after his 4 kms riding proves that the brake pad is not always in contact with the hub while riding.
            Periodic servicing of brakes in the way I said in my post is something I felt is necessary soon after fitting a new brake shoe . This is because a new set of brake shoes develops a first glaze quickly and settles down for a long service after a sanding down like I said . I have seen this over and over along the years . Even if newbies take my words for gospel and do check and service their brakes once in a while like I said , they shall not come to any harm for it ... skin rubbing on asphalt is far more harmful than that
            Lazy cam shoes that do not return instantly upon release shall cause much heat . Fully stuck shoe shall cause copious smoke from the hub from heat, I have seen it .
            I didn't mean warping of the tyres . The cast wheel itself can warp , by the bearing mount or hub going out of round from heating and cooling rapidly and repeatedly .
            Normal braking can heat up the wheel parts to warmth , not so much so that it is not hand hold-able . Also heat here means unwanted friction , means lost power and quickly wearing out parts too . Better to check out everything possible in time . Good that Sarban noticed it ...

            Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
            Whats warping of tyre ? can someone explain ?
            Warping means going out of shape . I meant the wheel , not the tyre . Rubber melts or burns . Metal warps .

            Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
            I think it is deformation due to heat.
            Right .

            Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
            oh ok. Yes nitrogen does make a difference here. tried it on my car , tires lasted longer and ride was a bit smooth compared to normal compressed air.
            Even the tyre noise reduced significantly
            That is because nitrogen filling machines are recently made and more accurate and fills less moisture and dust etc . Nitrogen as a gas has no more anti noise properties or smoothness compared to air .

            Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
            @ All
            Honda mineral 10W30 has done just over 500 kms and its showing the true colour. Did a 50 km highway ride (70-80 kmph) at not-s0-low ambient temp.
            And it was hell in my engine Vibration was so bad that I couldnt keep my feet on the pegs.
            MORAL : It cant handle the heat even at moderate ambient temp. Its fantastic in winter, horrible in summer.
            I told you so ... this oil(honda's 10w30 mineral oil is the same as hero-honda's) is
            Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
            Thats why i stopped using mineral oils for good...
            Not that , I've been using mineral oil since ever ... never had to worry about oil failure . Minerals are fine .

            Originally posted by Imran Syed View Post
            sir ,sound is in the engine during idling or at low rpm when engine is hot, not after turn off, silencer is fine no sound in it ..
            Cat-con noise from silencer is not audible while running the engine , even at idle . It only makes a mild tick-tick noise when cooling down after the engine is turned off . So that's not it . Have the ASC or competent mechanic check the tappet clearance . They create lots of noise when incorrectly adjusted and hot .

            Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
            ... Just got the bike from SC the battery is showing only 11V even after 6 hrs of charging ...so i got a EXIDE chloride UPS battery for Rs 810 from a nearby exide dealer...this new battery was showing 12.96V and got it installed at the SC ....now the bike starts in a single kick and everything is back to normal.
            Can someone explain how a bad battery could cause starting problem ? ...
            Shorted cell . 11V is dead battery , possibly has shorted cells .
            Last edited by Pinaki; 09-16-2012, 12:35 AM.

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            • May be the tappet issue, I need a good mechanic I guess for correct adjustment of tappets

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              • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                Yes i was warned by PSR and pinaki sir but fortunately the mech didnt mess it up.... in fact he took it upon himself and used some insulation tape to mark the terminals ...so i dont mess it up later .

                Just got the bike from SC the battery is showing only 11V even after 6 hrs of charging ...so i got a EXIDE chloride UPS battery for Rs 810 from a nearby exide dealer...this new battery was showing 12.96V and got it installed at the SC ....now the bike starts in a single kick and everything is back to normal.

                Can someone explain how a bad battery could cause starting problem ?

                @Sinbun ji i asked the mech to remove the bore exactly like you explained and he confirmed thats how he removes it as its also very easy to fit back .

                OT : i dont like the smileys when i click on the "more" option ....they are downright ugly .
                A bad battery doesn't lets the bike starts as present day hero honda comes with microprocessor controlled ignition. The splendor,passion, Joy, CD dawn they all had ac cdi.
                But the present bikes like CBZ extreme, hunk, passion pro, splendor pro, karizma, ambition, CD DELUXE, CD DAWN all the new model have microprocessor based CDI and until and unless they get 12V DC supply they will not fire. So new bikes will not start as they have microprocessor and has as many as 10 maps in them. Even if they start then do not ride with a damaged battery as it will damage the CDI.
                Originally posted by Imran Syed View Post
                May be the tappet issue, I need a good mechanic I guess for correct adjustment of tappets
                Do not touch the tappets. Never let the SVC touch the tappets as they will create UN necessary problem and will later regret. Run the bike for some time and then decide.
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                • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
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                  Right .

                  That is because nitrogen filling machines are recently made and more accurate and fills less moisture and dust etc . Nitrogen as a gas has no more anti noise properties or smoothness compared to air .

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                  Cat-con noise from silencer is not audible while running the engine , even at idle . It only makes a mild tick-tick noise when cooling down after the engine is turned off . So that's not it . Have the ASC or competent mechanic check the tappet clearance . They create lots of noise when incorrectly adjusted and hot .

                  .
                  Nitrogen is an inert gas , does not react with anything and also its a poor conductor of heat , hence tyres wont heat up easily thus preventing wear and tear easily . Nitrogen prevents oxidation or rusting so your rims will last a bit longer than usual.


                  From what Imran said , its a week old bike ? what could be the issue with tappet ? If at all there is any issue it must be taken seriously as to prevent further damage

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                  • Its something rotating with a noise ,it is near the clutch plate area during idle and at low rpm when engine is hot, ASC guy told me to run till 500-600km and will rectify if anything serious ,Its a prakash motors from Bangalore

                    It started from 4 days ago, not from day 1 i purchased bike, i guess something with the clutch plate or i do know exactly because i am very much new to all this
                    Last edited by Imran Syed; 09-16-2012, 09:26 AM.

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                    • if possible try to take a video with clear sound and post it here , lets see .

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                      • [QUOTE=girimajiananth;871403]if possible try to take a video with clear sound and post it here , lets see .[/Q


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                        Please listen to above video & give a solution guys!!! really in trouble

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                        • After the engine cools down , check if enough engine oil is present or not . This is quite a strange sound. Never heard like this before.

                          is this sound still present after you turn off the engine ?

                          Please take your bike to a different ASC , try sai motors .


                          off topic

                          I had a bad experience once with sai motors , i wrote a letter threatening to file a case against them in consumer court. 10mins later i get a call from the service manager Mr Vandan asking me to get the bike and everything will be sorted out ASAP.

                          fortunately it was a minor problem and it was rectified. The staff were very courteous to me .
                          Last edited by girimajiananth; 09-16-2012, 10:09 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
                            After the engine cools down , check if enough engine oil is present or not . This is quite a strange sound. Never heard like this before.

                            is this sound still present after you turn off the engine ?

                            Please take your bike to a different ASC , try sai motors .


                            off topic

                            I had a bad experience once with sai motors , i wrote a letter threatening to file a case against them in consumer court. 10mins later i get a call from the service manager Mr Vandan asking me to get the bike and everything will be sorted out ASAP.

                            fortunately it was a minor problem and it was rectified. The staff were very courteous to me .
                            is it a tappets issue? or anything peculiar? okay ill try sai motors but will they check my problem as the bike is from prakash motors

                            Engine oil is up to the second line mark ,

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                            • could be a tappet issue . They may adjust the tappet if required . I hope its not serious

                              yeah , you can get your bike serviced from any authorised Hero showroom.

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                              • Originally posted by Imran Syed View Post
                                ..... Please listen to above video & give a solution guys!!! really in trouble
                                That is an unusual noise from a new engine . Maybe something not correctly fitted in there or tappets left too loose or tight etc . Whatever it is insist on the ASC to correct it immediately . Contact the Hero regional manager through contacts or website(e-mail) .

                                Originally posted by Imran Syed View Post
                                Its something rotating with a noise ,it is near the clutch plate area during idle and at low rpm when engine is hot, ASC guy told me to run till 500-600km and will rectify if anything serious ,Its a prakash motors from Bangalore ...
                                ASC always says that untill the bike breaks down, it's not their bike ... make them rectify it immediately .

                                Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
                                Nitrogen is an inert gas , does not react with anything and also its a poor conductor of heat , hence tyres wont heat up easily thus preventing wear and tear easily . Nitrogen prevents oxidation or rusting so your rims will last a bit longer than usual.
                                From what Imran said , its a week old bike ? what could be the issue with tappet ? If at all there is any issue it must be taken seriously as to prevent further damage
                                Tappets are adjustable to set the valves clearances . It should be an easy and routine job for the Hero ASC . Loose tappets make tick tick noise like that but do not cause any harm . Too tight can cause damage .

                                Air we breathe is 78% nitrogen . Even if so(which I doubt) How much reduction in heat etc do you expect from 78% vs 100% of the same gas ? But as I said modern nitrogen filling machines fill almost dry gas and do prevent corrosion inside the rims . The problem is that few tyre repair guys are having such equipment so how to top-up pressure or repair a leak on the road always with nitrogen ...

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