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  • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

    Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
    Replace GPT as you have more than 15K. It can damage the clutch outer's gear ring in the long run. New GPT costs around Rs.550/-. Inspect the wood ruff key for play.
    If you want,you can replace the clutch plates along with the GPT as clutch plates have to removed anyway to access the GPT. (I have seen clutch plates to show symptoms of slippage after 40K kms)

    Please wait for sibun to give his opinion.
    Thanks Shoeb will wait for Sibun reply also.
    [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION],
    If I need to replace clutch plates which brand preferred?
    Last edited by mrbabu76; 06-23-2013, 06:44 PM.

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    • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

      I have successfully clocked 5200km on my extreme , Went to svc for servicing today , gave at 12.30pm
      As usual they washed and did basic servicing , some of the points i noticed today are

      1. If you are late for servicing , your free service coupon will go void ( i delayed it just by a day and it they didn't accept it )
      2. SVC i gave are using OE engine oil for lubrication purpose ( At-least one of the mechanic was using fresh oil instead of used oil)
      3. If insisted they are using bottled engine oil for change instead of Barrel oil.

      They tightened chain with just 1cm play and tilted the clutch lever above normal , Just as i drove 1km footpegs were vibrating real bad and position of clutch was creating trouble for me .The mechanic must have touched disc plate and his greasy hands made disc slip . Went back and complained about the issue . The supervisor instantly called mechanic and did the corrective changes.

      The engine oil they used was of Savita make , I don't expect it to last anything more than 500-600km . Till then i am searching for veedol oil.
      Carb Tuning made easy (Thanks Sibun !)

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      • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

        Update on Iftex Clean System G:
        My xtreme is really liking this additive. I feel good throttle response along with improved mileage. Now I'm getting mileage of 45-47 kmpl in city, which used to be 40-42 kmpl earlier.
        I still wonder how Sibun and some other xbhpians are getting 55 kmpl in city. Maybe my riding style is not up to the mark

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        • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

          [MENTION=13902]MRB[/MENTION]abu- Check if GPT is worn or not, also if you are changing GPT then you will have to change clutch bell and clutch plates. If you change the GPT without clutch bell, sound will be horrible and new GPT will wear out in little time.
          [MENTION=22701]nishesh[/MENTION]- I told you and all here IFTEX products are thoroughly tested and results are provided in website. I was a constant user of it in my Joy but in my extreme i used it recently and was pleased with the performance.Regarding my bikes mileage then let me tell you my bikes tuning is as perfect as possible. After all i have 7-8 years experience of experimenting tuning of bikes. Do not worry, continue to use it and mileage will increase to 50+ in city.


          An Update:-

          This monday i was returning from Home to my workplace which is at a distance of 170 km. It was raining heavily. The luggage was tied with polythene cover, i was in rain coat and gloves and shoes. I was constantly belting out 70-80 kph as the highway was empty. On the way falls balugaon and till khalikote the highway runs side by side to the train line. It will be a total of 22 km running parallel. At solari PH a train was standing. I was also standing their taking a pee break. The train and i both started at same time. We ran parallel till khallikote with speeds touching 100 kph. While we were running parallel i was huming a song. The song is:-



          This song is my favorite.I always hum this song. This song made me like three things:-
          1. Mr. SRK
          2. YEZDI
          3. GOA
          On the way i clicked a picture:-
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          Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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          • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

            Originally posted by sibun View Post

            You will not believe that when i bought my extreme it returned 35 kpl.
            Today engines of hero are still free than earlier as my joy when new was so tight that if a small stone is under rear wheel and you are starting to move then bike will not move. Kick was so hard that unless you shift it to half position by clutching, you cannot kick it.

            Even when i re-build the engine of my Joy it requires almost 7k for completely freeing up.

            Even my extreme after completing 10k has become free. Now it is at 14k and revs like crazy.
            Quoting from Unicorn thread as my post would become OT there.

            That was the exact feeling I had when I purchased xtreme. Bike had to be revved-up and clutch slipped to be able to move from 0. While cursing ,there was a feeling as if the brakes are binding and trying to slow me down.Mileage returned was 37kmpl, bike heated like nothing.(Due to very less clearance and high friction between engine internals ) Every 75 kms, idling RPM increases and needed adjustment upto 300kms -most significant change in RPM being in 0-50kms . (Called sibun and he told me engine is getting free and hence the increase in idling RPM). Engine felt so rough at 50kms that I had to change the oil.
            Chain was tightened and gears were jumping out and felt as if it is in neutral. Re-adjusted the chain and the problem vanished.
            Anyone without experience of hero bikes would have been disappointed big time and would start cursing himself for buying xtreme.
            Gave the bike for 1st service at 600kms and got the oil changed,bike washed and nothing else. Asked the mechanic not to touch anything else.

            After the oil change(svc's barrel oil) the bike again felt very rough and was heating. I used it for next 500 kms and changed to veedol Take-off premium 10W30.

            Now it is returning me 48~50kmpl in city with sane riding and I am sure it will improve once the engine gets free. Low end torque improved significantly as the KMS piled up.
            All in all not only extreme but any other hero's bike will disappoint you a time if you are a person who comes to conclusion very soon.

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            • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

              Brothers,

              I had longissssh test drive of new Hero Xtreme....and was i surprised ? Yes, for many reasons.

              a. In 5th gear without pillion, it can easily do 25 KMPH. At 25KMPH when throttled, it takes blink of eye to go in speeds of 50-60-70 without any knocking,snatching etc.

              b. On normal roads, I was unable to take it to its maximum power. At around 6000 RPM..it was doing something like 75 KMPH. So unless one is driving on open highways, power of this machine is more than enough.

              c. Power delivery above RPMs of 4500 is insane, it feels hulk getting unleashed. It can faint a weak hearted pillion . It feels like xtreme is saying to rider .... you got this much only ??

              So all in all, its name is true to its character. It is really Xtreme.

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              • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
                The engine oil they used was of Savita make , I don't expect it to last anything more than 500-600km . Till then i am searching for veedol oil.
                Bro, don't be so judgmental about oils. Even if is a crappy oil, it will easily last 1000kms+ given that the engine is not brand new. Just for the sake of environment (and your pocket, too!) you need not change the oil at 500kms! That is being a bit too paranoid. Any new oil will not harm your running engine that soon. My advice (as I've used it) would be to run 1000-1200kms easily on this and then go for a change.

                Originally posted by sibun View Post
                An Update:-

                This monday i was returning from Home to my workplace which is at a distance of 170 km. It was raining heavily. The luggage was tied with polythene cover, i was in rain coat and gloves and shoes. I was constantly belting out 70-80 kph as the highway was empty. On the way falls balugaon and till khalikote the highway runs side by side to the train line. It will be a total of 22 km running parallel. At solari PH a train was standing. I was also standing their taking a pee break. The train and i both started at same time. We ran parallel till khallikote with speeds touching 100 kph. While we were running parallel i was huming a song. The song is:-
                Dude seriously, rainy season is the SEASON to ride between lush green winding roads and low hilly areas. The scenery is awesome, weather is pollution free and the greenery is something to remember your whole life! Bahut jyada mazaa aata hai..... I try to ride as much as possible during this awesome season. Cheers!
                My First post on xBHP!
                Adjust Tappets on Hunk/Xtreme
                Riding Through Maoist Territory!
                http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...in-review.html

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                • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                  Bro, don't be so judgmental about oils. Even if is a crappy oil, it will easily last 1000kms+ given that the engine is not brand new. Just for the sake of environment (and your pocket, too!) you need not change the oil at 500kms! That is being a bit too paranoid.
                  Duly noted brother , as i have bought this bike after lot of toil , i am bit paranoid and change oil 100-200 km before .

                  Yeah i am judgmental on stock oil as its quality is poor . But i will extend drain period as you say ( will save few bucks too )

                  rainy season is the SEASON to ride between lush green winding roads and low hilly areas. The scenery is awesome, weather is pollution free and the greenery is something to remember your whole life!
                  Undoubtedly best time of year for bikers . But due to crappy roads here, it spoils the fun
                  Cool breeze greeting the body , Nature is in its prime , soothing scenery .. Heaven
                  This is a pic when i was returning from Bhilai to my home .
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                  • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                    Originally posted by MoonLight View Post
                    Brothers,

                    I had longissssh test drive of new Hero Xtreme....and was i surprised ? Yes, for many reasons.

                    a. In 5th gear without pillion, it can easily do 25 KMPH. At 25KMPH when throttled, it takes blink of eye to go in speeds of 50-60-70 without any knocking,snatching etc.

                    b. On normal roads, I was unable to take it to its maximum power. At around 6000 RPM..it was doing something like 75 KMPH. So unless one is driving on open highways, power of this machine is more than enough.

                    c. Power delivery above RPMs of 4500 is insane, it feels hulk getting unleashed. It can faint a weak hearted pillion . It feels like xtreme is saying to rider .... you got this much only ??

                    So all in all, its name is true to its character. It is really Xtreme.
                    Finally you got to test the extreme, it was for no matter that Overdrive testers were mighty pleased and i was also pleased. My friend got his extreme on 14th of january 2007 and i rode it on 1st of march and i was mighty pleased. I will post the rest in my ownership experience which is nearing completion. Only the photos and some editing remains after which i will post.
                    Regarding your observation then:-
                    a. Although extreme makes max torque at 6500 rpm, but still the gearing is so that it will pull from 25 kph in fifth gear. Also it will pull the redline in 5th gear. I think what will be when it was provided with sixth gear.
                    b. At 6000 rpm it makes around 78 kph, man the bike makes maximum torque at 6500 rpm and maximum power at 8500 rpm and at 6000 rpm you still haven't touched its power band.
                    C. If after 4.5k rpm you are telling the power delivery is insane then you haven't crossed 6k rpm, cross that and see how rapidly RPM needle moves you will be surprised, all the testers in overdrive had mentioned that extreme pulls stronger even after 100 kph.

                    Regarding pillion, never ever pull it hard in 1st,2nd and 3rd gears till redline with a pillion as if he is unprepared then he will fall. The beauty of this engine is how quickly and rapidly it revs. Although it runs the same engine as unicorn and makes only 1BHP more but the power delivery is completely different. While unicorn feels like a gentleman, this feels like the hooligan which is always full of energy.

                    By the way which bike you ride. I think this was your first ride of a hero bike.
                    Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                    • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                      Originally posted by sibun View Post
                      Finally you got to test the extreme, it was for no matter that Overdrive testers were mighty pleased and i was also pleased. My friend got his extreme on 14th of january 2007 and i rode it on 1st of march and i was mighty pleased. I will post the rest in my ownership experience which is nearing completion. Only the photos and some editing remains after which i will post.
                      Regarding your observation then:-
                      a. Although extreme makes max torque at 6500 rpm, but still the gearing is so that it will pull from 25 kph in fifth gear. Also it will pull the redline in 5th gear. I think what will be when it was provided with sixth gear.
                      b. At 6000 rpm it makes around 78 kph, man the bike makes maximum torque at 6500 rpm and maximum power at 8500 rpm and at 6000 rpm you still haven't touched its power band.
                      C. If after 4.5k rpm you are telling the power delivery is insane then you haven't crossed 6k rpm, cross that and see how rapidly RPM needle moves you will be surprised, all the testers in overdrive had mentioned that extreme pulls stronger even after 100 kph.

                      Regarding pillion, never ever pull it hard in 1st,2nd and 3rd gears till redline with a pillion as if he is unprepared then he will fall. The beauty of this engine is how quickly and rapidly it revs. Although it runs the same engine as unicorn and makes only 1BHP more but the power delivery is completely different. While unicorn feels like a gentleman, this feels like the hooligan which is always full of energy.

                      By the way which bike you ride. I think this was your first ride of a hero bike.
                      Never rode an extreme, the uni is bad at low speeds but on highway it pulls in 5th gear, the acceleration after 80 is really good, wish I had same acceleration at other gears.

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                      • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                        Since you guys are talking about pickup and stuff, I would like to share a video clip that I made on my 2007 Xtreme during a ride with xbhpians somewhere in june 2008.




                        Powerband of xtreme lies between 4500 till 8000 rpm. Later on it takes time to touch 9000. Its a beautiful machine.
                        2007 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
                        2008 - Yamaha YZF R15
                        2009 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
                        2013 - KTM 390 Duke
                        2017 - Yamaha FZ25

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                        • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                          Originally posted by sibun View Post
                          Finally you got to test the extreme, it was for no matter that Overdrive testers were mighty pleased and i was also pleased. My friend got his extreme on 14th of january 2007 and i rode it on 1st of march and i was mighty pleased. I will post the rest in my ownership experience which is nearing completion. Only the photos and some editing remains after which i will post.
                          Regarding your observation then:-
                          a. Although extreme makes max torque at 6500 rpm, but still the gearing is so that it will pull from 25 kph in fifth gear. Also it will pull the redline in 5th gear. I think what will be when it was provided with sixth gear.
                          b. At 6000 rpm it makes around 78 kph, man the bike makes maximum torque at 6500 rpm and maximum power at 8500 rpm and at 6000 rpm you still haven't touched its power band.
                          C. If after 4.5k rpm you are telling the power delivery is insane then you haven't crossed 6k rpm, cross that and see how rapidly RPM needle moves you will be surprised, all the testers in overdrive had mentioned that extreme pulls stronger even after 100 kph.

                          Regarding pillion, never ever pull it hard in 1st,2nd and 3rd gears till redline with a pillion as if he is unprepared then he will fall. The beauty of this engine is how quickly and rapidly it revs. Although it runs the same engine as unicorn and makes only 1BHP more but the power delivery is completely different. While unicorn feels like a gentleman, this feels like the hooligan which is always full of energy.

                          By the way which bike you ride. I think this was your first ride of a hero bike.
                          Originally posted by riazmomin View Post
                          Since you guys are talking about pickup and stuff, I would like to share a video clip that I made on my 2007 Xtreme during a ride with xbhpians somewhere in june 2008.

                          Powerband of xtreme lies between 4500 till 8000 rpm. Later on it takes time to touch 9000. Its a beautiful machine.
                          XTreme/Hunk has decent power delivery, but yet these bikes are hardly recommended here in XBHP....
                          I think so many Hero haters here

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                          • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                            Originally posted by sinnerz2000 View Post
                            Never rode an extreme, the uni is bad at low speeds but on highway it pulls in 5th gear, the acceleration after 80 is really good, wish I had same acceleration at other gears.
                            Just have a test ride and report back, if after 80 you are saying unicorn has good pick-up then ride an extreme and say how it pulls after 6k rpm. Just have a test ride and reply here. By the way for your question in unicorn thread then please provide some details about how much kilometer, what all service has been done then i will reply how to bring back your throttle response.

                            Just look at the video that riaz has posted.
                            [MENTION=50019]riaz[/MENTION]- good to see here after so many days. Do you have the extreme or sold it up. Nice video that you have posted.By the way you have not replied why you sold the R15 for another extreme.Also i would like to say do not ride so fast on that kind of roads. I ride fast only on one way highways(separate road for both ways), that too having barricades on both sides, and i never cross 80 kph if it doesn't have barricades.

                            [MENTION=49050]SatSon[/MENTION]- Man, do not start another what you know. Yes extreme/hunk have one of the best power deliveryin 150 cc on this side of R15 and CBR. Even Autocar mag has reported in their long term review in which they had a long ride with a FAZER and EXTREME. They had reported that although in twisties and turns fazer had marginally better handling than extreme, but when exiting turn or on normal roads extreme showed better performance with is quick power delivery.

                            I do not know why most do not recommend, its may be because most of them have never ridden them so couldn't recommend, some may not like the brand name, and some have never thought about it. But i do not know about other states, but here in bhubaneswar, extreme sells like crazy especially after the refresh edition came. Every other 150 cc bike you see and it will be an extreme.
                            Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                            • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                              Originally posted by sibun View Post
                              Just have a test ride and report back, if after 80 you are saying unicorn has good pick-up then ride an extreme and say how it pulls after 6k rpm. Just have a test ride and reply here. By the way for your question in unicorn thread then please provide some details about how much kilometer, what all service has been done then i will reply how to bring back your throttle response.

                              Just look at the video that riaz has posted.
                              [MENTION=50019]riaz[/MENTION]- good to see here after so many days. Do you have the extreme or sold it up. Nice video that you have posted.By the way you have not replied why you sold the R15 for another extreme.Also i would like to say do not ride so fast on that kind of roads. I ride fast only on one way highways(separate road for both ways), that too having barricades on both sides, and i never cross 80 kph if it doesn't have barricades.

                              [MENTION=49050]SatSon[/MENTION]- Man, do not start another what you know. Yes extreme/hunk have one of the best power deliveryin 150 cc on this side of R15 and CBR. Even Autocar mag has reported in their long term review in which they had a long ride with a FAZER and EXTREME. They had reported that although in twisties and turns fazer had marginally better handling than extreme, but when exiting turn or on normal roads extreme showed better performance with is quick power delivery.

                              I do not know why most do not recommend, its may be because most of them have never ridden them so couldn't recommend, some may not like the brand name, and some have never thought about it. But i do not know about other states, but here in bhubaneswar, extreme sells like crazy especially after the refresh edition came. Every other 150 cc bike you see and it will be an extreme.
                              The bike has completed 42k, I've cleaned the Carb nd installed the g power spark plug, but still if I leave the bike off for more than an hour and start it the bike hiccups on first gear so I have to rev it hard, should I tune the Carb myself?
                              Last edited by sinnerz2000; 06-29-2013, 01:47 PM.

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                              • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                                I do not know why most do not recommend, its may be because most of them have never ridden them so couldn't recommend, some may not like the brand name, and some have never thought about it.
                                Teenagers are prime buyers of 150-225cc bikes and most of them buy for sole reason " TO RIP THE BRAINS OUT OF IT " .
                                Extreme isn`t a kind of bike that is ripping friendly or very revvy as compared to others due to its square bore . I have seen many of my friends redlining their bikes right next day of purchase with a big smile on face . HH bikes have less performance in initial periods which i too have felt as first 100kms i needed to rev it around 2.5K to get moving. But after piling up kms it is becoming more free and pulls away much easily than before . Extreme generates torque at higher revs and due to increased weight it feels powerless in 0-50kmph zone , this is the fact most rippers dont buy extreme/ hunk they think its a waste of money to buy a heavier bike , Least is they know about Stability in crosswinds . Other manufacturers make their engines with greater tolerance due to which engine feels free and returns better mileage from purchase day onwards . I learnt here that for hero bikes patience is the key , many dont agree with this and later pay for their ignorance . As they say Beauty lies in he viewers`s eyes , some dont like the styling of hero bikes , Whatever may be the case i am more than happy with my bike , There was a time after purchasing this bike that every day i regretted buying this due to its low mileage and heaviness factor , people here encouraged to give some time to engine to bed - in and it will completely change its character, Precisely this happened . Just think for a bike which weighs 150KG and has more of mid-end torque giving mileage of 50+ km/lt , it is quite a surprising thing . Both Uni and Xtreme are derived from Honda CRF150 engine but both are completely different , Where Uni makes Torque at 5K rpm Xtreme makes torque at 6.5K so lower end pull is better in Unicorn . But scenario changes as one crosses 65kmph , a slight whiff of throttle and speedo shows 70-75kmph . Thats what the seperates uni from a xtreme , as [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] said uni is civilised bike , where as extreme is bit performance oriented.
                                Carb Tuning made easy (Thanks Sibun !)

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