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**vineeshvv** · 12-02-2012, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by [COLOR=#333333

Of course, front disks are becoming standard on most bikes today but IMO the real fun lies in having disk brakes on both the wheels! Just my experience[/COLOR]

i will install a rear disc brake soon, and i just changed the mass cylinder only rest are same

is there any improvement in DOT4 brake fluids

**sarbanoxley** · 12-02-2012, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by vineeshvv View Post

i will install a rear disc brake soon, and i just changed the mass cylinder only rest are same

is there any improvement in DOT4 brake fluids

Changed to DOT 4 2 days back after reading sibuns post ...just the brake oil was changed my pads have done close to 6000kms...even with the old pads the difference was immediate... i now use only one finger to stop the bike and the tyre screeches if i use 3 fingers ....i think KBX brake pads are the best they come only for the front....for my kinda usage the ASK pads go kaput in 6K but the KBX pads look like new even after 6K

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**sarbanoxley** · 12-02-2012, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post

@vineeshvv Instead of going for a complete brake system change, you could have just changed your brake pads and bought a pair of 'asbestos brake pads'. Ours are fitted with non-asbestos type - that is least harmful to the environment, etc. etc. You could have easily felt the 'sharp' difference!

Of course, front disks are becoming standard on most bikes today but IMO the real fun lies in having disk brakes on both the wheels! Just my experience.

+1 DOT 4 + asbestos pads like ASK/ANL/KBX would have yielded results for sure.

**ashwin.terminator** · 12-02-2012, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by vineeshvv View Post

because of that mirror thread problem i am going to buy the BYBRE mass cylinder from pulsar 150-180 versions

Why not buy the Bybre Master Cylinder from Hero itself? The new CBZ and Hunk come with Bybre brakes, I'm sure it'll be a direct fit on our bikes. Why not buy those instead of buying something else and fearing incompatibility?

Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post

+1 DOT 4 + asbestos pads like ASK/ANL/KBX would have yielded results for sure.

Bybre Master Cylinder+DOT 4+Asbestos Pads would be the perfect recipe.

**vineeshvv** · 12-02-2012, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by [COLOR=#333333

Why not buy the Bybre Master Cylinder from Hero itself? The new CBZ and Hunk come with Bybre brakes, I'm sure it'll be a direct fit on our bikes. Why not buy those instead of buying something else and fearing incompatibility?[/COLOR]

ok then i will for the new BYBRE mass cylinder from HERO

**ashwin.terminator** · 12-02-2012, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by vineeshvv View Post

ok then i will for the new BYBRE mass cylinder from HERO

If you're changing so much, try sourcing KBX Asbestos pads and fit them as well. It should complete your brake improvement task once and for all. And you'll never need for look for more brake improvement options again! Keep us in the loop regarding the Master Cylinder, cost, part number etc. I'm eager to get the Bybre Master Cylinder on my bike as well. Will wait for your review on the same, please do check the feedback from the brakes as well.

Again, my previous query(s): :P

Can we change our handle bar grips to that of the R15/FZ? Not for fashion, but for function. The handle bar grips on the FZ/R15 are of top class quality and offer good grip on the throttle, our is a little slip prone in that department especially after it rains. Or any other grips that will fit properly and are made from good, grippy rubber? (And please, I do not want that yuck foam grip cover that some people put, looks :P in my opinion)
Can we put 100/90 tyres up front and 110/90 tyres at the back? Both 18 inch. I'm asking because I'm sure that a few CBZ/Hunk owners might be interested in Pirelli Sport Demons for their bikes, but are not sure if the 100/90 and 110/90 will fit on their bikes. The 110/90 should not really be an issue as SatSon has a similar setup AFAIK. But I'm not sure about the front. I'm sure the mileage will drop a little, what other change(s) can be expected by upsizing?

**vineeshvv** · 12-02-2012, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by
Can we change our handle bar grips to that of the R15/FZ? Not for fashion, but for function. The handle bar grips on the FZ/R15 are of top class quality and offer good grip on the throttle, our is a little slip prone in that department especially after it rains. Or any other grips that will fit properly and are made from good, grippy rubber? (And please, I do not want that yuck foam grip cover that some people put, looks :P in my opinion)
Can we put 100/90 tyres up front and 110/90 tyres at the back? Both 18 inch. I'm asking because I'm sure that a few CBZ/Hunk owners might be interested in Pirelli Sport Demons for their bikes, but are not sure if the 100/90 and 110/90 will fit on their bikes. The 110/90 should not really be an issue as SatSon has a similar setup AFAIK. But I'm not sure about the front. I'm sure the mileage will drop a little, what other change(s) can be expected by upsizing?

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we change the handle grips from FZ16 or R15 i think both handles are in same size as ours

don`t know about the tyre size if there is any details i will tell u

**ashwin.terminator** · 12-02-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by vineeshvv View Post

we change the handle grips from FZ16 or R15 i think both handles are in same size as ours

don`t know about the tyre size if there is any details i will tell u

Great. I'm seriously hoping the Handle Grips are a direct fit. Would be lovely to have some soft, cushioning yet grippy handle grips to replace our stock ones.

And please do let us know if you get to know anything about the tyres. IMO, the front should be less of a problem if we upsize seeing as to how there's nothing than can actually hinder the tyre's fitment.

**BloggingWheels** · 12-02-2012, 10:08 PM

^Up-sizing is NOT always a breeze. In a generic explanation, the width of the front forks/the front mudguard might hinder with the new tyre's thickness. Same holds for the rear tyre where sometimes, the chain guard has to be removed &/or some modifications are to be made to the swing-arm.
Now some tyre fundas:
A taller tyre profile vs the standard tyre fitted at the front:: the actual speed will be more than what the speedo shows! Though not much of a difference there between the actual and speedo speeds, still in practicality, the fact holds. And vice-versa for a fatter profile tyre. Ideally, when upsizing, one must upsize the rear tyre also to maintain the 'homogeneity' of the setup. Tyres are a tricky part - many times behind common problems such as 'balance-out'/'wobbling'/chain-loose/etc is a result of some fault with the tyres itself.

It is an interesting science, if one were interested!

**ashwin.terminator** · 12-02-2012, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post

^Up-sizing is NOT always a breeze. In a generic explanation, the width of the front forks/the front mudguard might hinder with the new tyre's thickness. Same holds for the rear tyre where sometimes, the chain guard has to be removed &/or some modifications are to be made to the swing-arm.

Yeah, I remember SatSon had to get rid of his lower portion of the chain case to make sure the 110/90 rear tyre isn't hindered. I have no plan on trying this myself, just curious. :P If and when I need to change tyres, I'll be shifting to Michelin Street Sirac or Dunlop Monster.

Now some tyre fundas:
A taller tyre profile vs the standard tyre fitted at the front:: the actual speed will be more than what the speedo shows! Though not much of a difference there between the actual and speedo speeds, still in practicality, the fact holds. And vice-versa for a fatter profile tyre. Ideally, when upsizing, one must upsize the rear tyre also to maintain the 'homogeneity' of the setup. Tyres are a tricky part - many times behind common problems such as 'balance-out'/'wobbling'/chain-loose/etc is a result of some fault with the tyres itself.

The first bit is only practical sense. :P Circumference(read distance) covered by the tyre will be less in a shorter tyre but the speedo will still be calibrated for the taller tyre.

The second bit, what do you mean by homogeneity in this context? Making sure the bike isn't unbalanced or something? :P

**sarbanoxley** · 12-02-2012, 11:47 PM

Guys can i fit unicorn rear tuffup tube for SIRAC 100/90-18 ? the showroom guy at HONDA told me it wont fit ...he said he only have size 3 tuffup tube of unicorn and he is not so sure ...is size 3 equal to 100/90-18 ?

**SatSon** · 12-03-2012, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post

Yeah, I remember SatSon had to get rid of his lower portion of the chain case to make sure the 110/90 rear tyre isn't hindered. I have no plan on trying this myself, just curious. :P If and when I need to change tyres, I'll be shifting to Michelin Street Sirac or Dunlop Monster.

The first bit is only practical sense. :P Circumference(read distance) covered by the tyre will be less in a shorter tyre but the speedo will still be calibrated for the taller tyre.

The second bit, what do you mean by homogeneity in this context? Making sure the bike isn't unbalanced or something? :P

Mine is 120/80 MRF Zapper, and I had to remove lower chain guard due to slight rubbing on chain guard, I believe if we make a slight dent on chain guard, this will be solved. And 110/80 is a direct on Hunk, one FM has reported it with picture in our thread.

Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post

^Up-sizing is NOT always a breeze. In a generic explanation, the width of the front forks/the front mudguard might hinder with the new tyre's thickness. Same holds for the rear tyre where sometimes, the chain guard has to be removed &/or some modifications are to be made to the swing-arm.
Now some tyre fundas:
A taller tyre profile vs the standard tyre fitted at the front:: the actual speed will be more than what the speedo shows! Though not much of a difference there between the actual and speedo speeds, still in practicality, the fact holds. And vice-versa for a fatter profile tyre. Ideally, when upsizing, one must upsize the rear tyre also to maintain the 'homogeneity' of the setup. Tyres are a tricky part - many times behind common problems such as 'balance-out'/'wobbling'/chain-loose/etc is a result of some fault with the tyres itself.

It is an interesting science, if one were interested!

The change in size of the tire infact changes the gearing of the bike and may affect acceleration/top speed/FE.

**SatSon** · 12-03-2012, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post

Guys can i fit unicorn rear tuffup tube for SIRAC 100/90-18 ? the showroom guy at HONDA told me it wont fit ...he said he only have size 3 tuffup tube of unicorn and he is not so sure ...is size 3 equal to 100/90-18 ?

Why Unicorn tube, Hunk/Xtreme tuff-tube not available?

**sarbanoxley** · 12-03-2012, 03:51 AM

Originally posted by SatSon View Post

Why Unicorn tube, Hunk/Xtreme tuff-tube not available?

SC people are saying they only come with new bikes dont have spare....is it available in chennai ?

**mrbabu76** · 12-03-2012, 08:19 AM

^^ Sarbanoxley,
Can you provide a short review on Shell AX7 10W40 as you are using now. Please cover the driveability, mileage difference and engine behaviour.
Thanks.

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