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  • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

    Originally posted by visco View Post
    Why should anyone use 4t oil with petrol in 4 stroke engines?. At least 2t oils burn while combustion in two stroke engines. . But 4t oil? . ITS DEFINITELY NOT FOR LUBRICATION DURING COMBUSTION PROCESS. But please be informed before giving advise.

    You are free to experiment with anything with your bike. Dude, You must be joking to give advice to someone to use 4t oil to mix with petrol. Please don't misguide some new bikers who take xbhp advises seriously.

    Keep it simple : DO NOT mix any oils with petrol for use in four stroke bikes. It will do more harm than good.


    Look I told you what worked for me. And what I am absolutely certain about. After not only getting results but after having owned and ridden my bike for 8 years. So don't lecture me on oils.

    You know better than me, then good, correct me in a way that is not bloody rude. There is a certain way in which we are expected to conduct ourselves on this forum.

    And who says 4t doesn't burn. Do you use 2t mix in petrol in your four stroke bike normally? No right?

    Does it have a separate oil tank and autolube like two strokes? No

    The oil from the crank case itself lubricates the piston that too during combustion process. 2t burns cleaner than 4t that is the only difference buddy. And hence it has less chance of gumming stuff up. So educate yourself before blurting something on the forum.

    Actually I have no idea why I chose to grace your post with a response.

    You know what, I quit this thread. You win
    Last edited by Balgi; 10-24-2014, 12:46 AM.

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    • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

      Originally posted by Balgi View Post
      Look I told you what worked for me. And what I am absolutely certain about. After not only getting results but after having owned and ridden my bike for 8 years. So don't lecture me on oils.

      You know better than me, then good, correct me in a way that is not bloody rude. There is a certain way in which we are expected to conduct ourselves on this forum.

      And who says 4t doesn't burn. Do you use 2t mix in petrol in your four stroke bike normally? No right?

      Does it have a separate oil tank and autolube like two strokes? No

      The oil from the crank case itself lubricates the piston that too during combustion process. 2t burns cleaner than 4t that is the only difference buddy. And hence it has less chance of gumming stuff up. So educate yourself before blurting something on the forum.

      Actually I have no idea why I chose to grace your post with a response.

      You know what, I quit this thread. You win
      Dude, i am quite educated not to use 4t oils inside combustion chamber. So don't worry and will always help forum with the real facts. Its up to you to take it personal or not.
      As I already told its your bike and you are free to experiment.
      Where did i say the crank case oil don't lubricate the piston? We are talking about the oil that mixed with petrol and that doesn't required for lubrication.
      Its not a matter of winning or losing but a matter knowing real facts.

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      • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

        Originally posted by visco View Post
        Dude, i am quite educated not to use 4t oils inside combustion chamber. So don't worry and will always help forum with the real facts. Its up to you to take it personal or not.
        As I already told its your bike and you are free to experiment.
        Where did i say the crank case oil don't lubricate the piston? We are talking about the oil that mixed with petrol and that doesn't required for lubrication.
        Its not a matter of winning or losing but a matter knowing real facts.
        Me too didn't heared about mixing 4t oil in petrol. But we mix 2-3 ml of 2t oil to prevent rustung of petrol tank inner part and also it will increase lubrication to the piston crown and thus increases smoothness of engine.

        Tapatalked from my stupid phone
        Off the BOTTLE & On the THROTTLE

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        • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

          Originally posted by visco View Post
          Dude, i am quite educated not to use 4t oils inside combustion chamber. So don't worry and will always help forum with the real facts. Its up to you to take it personal or not.
          As I already told its your bike and you are free to experiment.
          Where did i say the crank case oil don't lubricate the piston? We are talking about the oil that mixed with petrol and that doesn't required for lubrication.
          Its not a matter of winning or losing but a matter knowing real facts.

          If you find that someone is wrong or that you don't know about something that someone else is doing man then there are better ways to convey the message.
          Please go ahead and read your last post and then tell me why I shouldn't take it personally.
          In terms of education sir I am a double graduate persuing my Phd. The education I was talking about is of diplomacy.
          Please refrain in the future from being rude in your replies. We are all here to learn and in an earlier post I already explained why I do what with my bike. And there are others here who acknowledged that they use this method too. I really am not the only one who does this. But I still am quitting this forum regardless
          Hope you understand why I got angry and will keep diplomacy in mind before posting in the future.
          Thanx

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          • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

            Originally posted by Jith_in View Post
            Me too didn't heared about mixing 4t oil in petrol. But we mix 2-3 ml of 2t oil to prevent rustung of petrol tank inner part and also it will increase lubrication to the piston crown and thus increases smoothness of engine.

            Tapatalked from my stupid phone


            2t causes smoking and forms hard carbon deposits but burns cleaner than 4t. As such I did not think it best to add 2t to a 4 stroke engine as it can damage the catalytic converter of the bike. And as such 4t gets the job done but still I'll try 2t in my bike and see if there is a difference, though there shouldn't be any as the tappets are as it is normally lubricated by the 4t oil in the engine. Just wanted to clarify before leaving the thread. Cheers

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            • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

              Originally posted by Jith_in View Post
              Me too didn't heared about mixing 4t oil in petrol. But we mix 2-3 ml of 2t oil to prevent rustung of petrol tank inner part and also it will increase lubrication to the piston crown and thus increases smoothness of engine.

              Tapatalked from my stupid phone

              In general, If there exists a layer of oil formed on metal surface it offers resistance to water when it splashed.
              But Petrol being hydrocarbon that dissolves 2t oil i am not sure how it can provide protection from corrosion on the inner side of petrol tank. There are few myths like this which exists three decades back. In 1994 my mechanic did a rust prevention coating inside my rx100 petrol tank for rust prevention.

              When it comes to piston lubrication below are the facts

              2 stroke engine(Bikes sold in India)
              1. Piston ring, combustion cylinder and connecting rod of crank shaft gets lubrication from 2t oil( either mixed with petrol or comes from 2t oil tank)
              2. Gear box(cluth plates and gears) gets lubrication from 4t oil

              4 stroke engine
              1. Starting from Piston ring , combustion cylinder, gear etc etc etc every moving part in the engine gets lubrication from 4t oil. 2t oil has no role to play here.

              This is why 4t oil undergo continuous evolution over the period and the quality of the oil is very very important for a 4 stroke engine to perform better.

              Now you come to know why a 2t oil or 4t oils is not necessary to mix with petrol of a 4 stroke engine. If you believe that oil mixed with petrol gives smoothness then its time to check the wear and tear.
              Last edited by visco; 10-24-2014, 05:02 PM.

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              • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                Changed seat lock of my xtreme :-) just cost 45 rs for the seat lock. So the story is, went to svc and asked for xtreme's seat lock but they have no stock. Passion seat locks are availabe and when i asked about wether it is suitable for xtreme they said NO without even looking at me. Seeing the passion lock i thought it is swapable so buyed it in my own risk and fitted to the bike it was a direct fit(even there are some design changes). ASC one second prooved that they are useless idiots.

                Tapatalked from my stupid phone
                Off the BOTTLE & On the THROTTLE

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                • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                  Guys need help ,
                  My odo read 28600km , in the recent servicing I changed both rear and front break pad but after changing still the breaking has not improved , initial bite is missing .
                  What should I do to improve the breaking ?

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                  • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                    Originally posted by k.sagar View Post
                    Guys need help ,
                    My odo read 28600km , in the recent servicing I changed both rear and front break pad but after changing still the breaking has not improved , initial bite is missing .
                    What should I do to improve the breaking ?
                    Brake Pads will set after running few kms. If the front brake is spongy, bleed the brakes and bite will be back.

                    Cheerz!!
                    The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                    Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                    • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                      Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                      Brake Pads will set after running few kms. If the front brake is spongy, bleed the brakes and bite will be back.

                      Cheerz!!
                      I change both disk pad . Rear one is nissin.but I lost the bite .bleed many times, in starting break behave good but after 2-3 days it becone spongy again & again. Even i refill dot4 break oil.
                      Attached Files
                      not a hard racer, but love to drive.
                      fully DIY type Guy

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                      • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                        Originally posted by vjxm View Post
                        I change both disk pad . Rear one is nissin.but I lost the bite .bleed many times, in starting break behave good but after 2-3 days it becone spongy again & again. Even i refill dot4 break oil.
                        Maybe you aren't bleeding the brakes properly.

                        Cheerz!!
                        The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                        Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                        • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                          Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                          Maybe you aren't bleeding the brakes properly.

                          Cheerz!!
                          Then how should i bleed brakes.pls Describe the procedure.
                          not a hard racer, but love to drive.
                          fully DIY type Guy

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                          • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                            Originally posted by vjxm View Post
                            Then how should i bleed brakes.pls Describe the procedure.
                            Check out the DIY thread. Step by step procedure has been given there.

                            Cheerz!!
                            The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                            Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                            • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                              Friends,
                              Fuel gauge sensor of my xtreme has gone faulty. But, I am not able to find the genuine part.
                              Whether Unicorn/any other bike's sensor is compatible with xtreme?

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                              • re: CBZ xtreme / Hunk

                                Originally posted by nishesh.kumar View Post
                                Friends,
                                Fuel gauge sensor of my xtreme has gone faulty. But, I am not able to find the genuine part.
                                Whether Unicorn/any other bike's sensor is compatible with xtreme?
                                Wait for some days as parts shortage is due to the new Parts center opened in Neemrana, Rajasthan. The new center has opened on Dhanteras, and it as automatic retrieval system like shown in mega factories. When parts order is placed then robots transfer this parts to dispatch section. Whole process is automated. Wait for some more days.
                                Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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