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  • Originally posted by Sharrrrrrad View Post
    Does anybody know what should be the OTR price for Activa 2013(HET) in Bangalore. Also, what accessories should I go for?
    No idea about the bangalore price, and as far as 'accessories' go just get the side stand, floor mat and number plates (though you can get them at a regular spares shop also). you dont need any other crap like that metal 'guard' etc. and stay away from the so called 'teflon' coating.
    ex-showroom price + insurance + registration + life tax
    if you are being charged any under any vague 'category' like handling/miscellaneous etc, shoot a mail to honda.

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    • Completed 2 years on 8/4/13. 30,523 clocked & counting...
      Failure should never go to heart & success should never go to head,both makes a person to fall in life-Winston Churchill


      Yesterday is history.
      Tomorrow is a mystery.
      Today is a gift, That is why it is called \"Present\".

      Enjoy every moment.

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      • ^^ many more (s)miles ahead.. mine just crossed 40k a couple of weeks ago. 6yrs and 40k kms.
        only part of the engine that's been touched until now is one replacement of the valve cover gasket. and it looks like it will run another 20k km before requiring maintenance like cam chain replacement/decarb . been sticking to 20w40 oil since day 1 and 90 gear oil for the gear box.
        if you haven't used the castrol gearless scoot oil, i suggest you give it a try. my experience so far has been good after clocking almost 700km now (purely city commuting).

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        • I ride a grey activa. third year of running now. 16,000 KMS on the odo! I need suggestions/advise to improve the milage (it gives around 30--32KMPL). I usually ride at 50KMPH and have got it serviced every three months.

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          • Originally posted by pincyfly View Post
            I ride a grey activa. third year of running now. 16,000 KMS on the odo! I need suggestions/advise to improve the milage (it gives around 30--32KMPL). I usually ride at 50KMPH and have got it serviced every three months.
            do you usually do frequent short runs (like under 5kms) ? I guess you are using the 110cc new model activa, so your ideal mileage should be around 45kmpl. How do you check your mileage ? (Ideal method: Fill up tank, ride for around 150km and fill up again. FE= 150/amount of fuel taken in the second time)
            0. Check your tire pressure. Seriously!! My recommendation: Front 26~28 & Rear 34~36
            1. Replace you air filter if you haven't in the past 16000km. Max life of these air filters is around 8-10k km in our dusty conditions. And unfortunately the filters these days from honda are the 'viscous type' which are not supposed to be cleaned but just replaced.
            2. Check the secondary(or primary as honda calls it) air filter. This is a piece of foam/sponge type filter located on the RIGHT side (i.e. the side opp to the kick start lever). Clean it and reoil it a bit.
            3. Get the carb opened up, cleaned and re-tuned (Should be done preferably at the svc by a factory trained mech or a 'good' 'local' mech)
            4. Hope you always maintain correct level of oil - Use honda's 10w30 oil or castrol gearless scooter oil (one of my fav personal recommendation)

            16000 km is nothing if it has been maintained as per the schedule in the manual. My scoot is at around 40k km now after 6 yrs, and it still returns a consistent mileage of 38~42kmpl in the city and 46kmpl on the highway and the pick up and nippiness is still VERY good even after all these years/kms.
            Report back after doing the above 5 steps.
            Last edited by s1d; 04-19-2013, 05:48 PM.

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            • My activa 2007 model just about to complete 6 years and almost on the verge of 50k kms...i too face low mileage problems but its probably beause all my rips are just 3-4kms one way...never ride it for more than that i and i dont even trust going beyond 10-15 kms a day...it can give some sort of problem any time..i dont want to be stranded...its been maintained properly and regulalry serviced and changed oil....havent changed gear oil since last 1 year will do it soon...

              it is used just once or twice a week now and gives problem in starting with kick level....recently it was serviced but the problem crops in again in few days...2 days back it even refused to start with self start....choke has a mind of its own...works sometimes and sometimes doesnt work...i ask the mechnaic to fix i every service...still works fine for a few days and then back to what it was....my experience so far has been ok ok....the scoots stay good for 30-40k kms..then they start giving so many problems u wish to sell it off...but a primary cause may be coz i dont use it regularly and hence the problems...but yes havent opened the engine even once...and i dont find any reason why i should...doesnt come in much use except once in a week trips to the vegetable market and to ferry around my mom to run errands once in a while...

              the nippines as u say is gone and i feel the accelertion dull and the scoot dragging...probably becuase now i am used to the new pulsar 200NS i use daily :P
              Pulsar 200NS parts list
              https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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              • Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post
                My activa 2007 model just about to complete 6 years and almost on the verge of 50k kms...i too face low mileage problems but its probably beause all my rips are just 3-4kms one way...never ride it for more than that i and i dont even trust going beyond 10-15 kms a day...it can give some sort of problem any time..i dont want to be stranded...its been maintained properly and regulalry serviced and changed oil....havent changed gear oil since last 1 year will do it soon...

                it is used just once or twice a week now and gives problem in starting with kick level....recently it was serviced but the problem crops in again in few days...2 days back it even refused to start with self start....choke has a mind of its own...works sometimes and sometimes doesnt work...i ask the mechnaic to fix i every service...still works fine for a few days and then back to what it was....my experience so far has been ok ok....the scoots stay good for 30-40k kms..then they start giving so many problems u wish to sell it off...but a primary cause may be coz i dont use it regularly and hence the problems...but yes havent opened the engine even once...and i dont find any reason why i should...doesnt come in much use except once in a week trips to the vegetable market and to ferry around my mom to run errands once in a while...

                the nippines as u say is gone and i feel the accelertion dull and the scoot dragging...probably becuase now i am used to the new pulsar 200NS i use daily :P
                I would totally blame you for the state of your scoots performance . Were did you get it serviced ? And what were the 'parts/items' serviced at the so called regular services ? (Read my 'HUGE' post a few pages earlier on what were generally serviced on my scoot regularly). If you just left it at the svc for service them most probably all they did was clean the filter and replace the oil (again you do not know if it was good oil or adulterated stuff). That is why its important to stay with the bike and get it serviced. It hardly takes 2hrs for a COMPREHENSIVE service.
                I totally DO NOT agree with you on the fact that the scoots last only 30-40k km ! They will last at least 70-80k before requiring any engine work if maintained as per the schedule. And you must be proactive in replacing the drive belt, variator rollers atleast every 30k km and check the clutch shoes and replace if necessary. This takes care of the 'nippiness' part. And good fuel, clean air filter and spark plug (replace air filter approx every 8k km and clean it every 2k km, replace spark plug at around 12k km). And as per the manual the trans oil (i.e. final drive oil) needs to be changed every 2 years, but i have always replaced it at every service (its a 5 min job and the oil costs hardly 30rs cos it takes in around 120ml, and always buy your own gear oil from a petrol bunk and a bottle of 500ml will last you 3-4 oil changes)

                i have done a few 'long rides' (200 km one way) of which around the first 120km is non stop (takes approx 2hrs 15mins) and a 10 min break for chai/pee. Never did the bike feel 'strained' or did the engine sound 'gruff/coarse' after such a ride.

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                • Originally posted by s1d View Post
                  I would totally blame you for the state of your scoots performance . Were did you get it serviced ? And what were the 'parts/items' serviced at the so called regular services ? (Read my 'HUGE' post a few pages earlier on what were generally serviced on my scoot regularly). If you just left it at the svc for service them most probably all they did was clean the filter and replace the oil (again you do not know if it was good oil or adulterated stuff). That is why its important to stay with the bike and get it serviced. It hardly takes 2hrs for a COMPREHENSIVE service.
                  I totally DO NOT agree with you on the fact that the scoots last only 30-40k km ! They will last at least 70-80k before requiring any engine work if maintained as per the schedule. And you must be proactive in replacing the drive belt, variator rollers atleast every 30k km and check the clutch shoes and replace if necessary. This takes care of the 'nippiness' part. And good fuel, clean air filter and spark plug (replace air filter approx every 8k km and clean it every 2k km, replace spark plug at around 12k km). And as per the manual the trans oil (i.e. final drive oil) needs to be changed every 2 years, but i have always replaced it at every service (its a 5 min job and the oil costs hardly 30rs cos it takes in around 120ml, and always buy your own gear oil from a petrol bunk and a bottle of 500ml will last you 3-4 oil changes)

                  i have done a few 'long rides' (200 km one way) of which around the first 120km is non stop (takes approx 2hrs 15mins) and a 10 min break for chai/pee. Never did the bike feel 'strained' or did the engine sound 'gruff/coarse' after such a ride.
                  Yea i recently have got the idea of watching the service and not let the bike there and scoot off...btw i did it at a local mech....the HONDA ASC is a real stiff asc and just doent allow me watching my scoot being serviced...i changed the engine oil on my own...the spark plugs were cleaned and the air filter too was cleaned and yes in a couple of days will buy the gear oil and give it to the mechanic to put it in and ask him to check the choke connection to the carb...even have to get my horn replaced...he said ur horn went kaput after we washed the scoot but ia sked him to tune and it sounds very feeble..tried a lot of tuning but the sound isnt just there...is any horn compatible with the activa? planning to put a single pulsar horn...is decent enough and not too costly too

                  and about being blamed...i will share the blame with my elder brother...he handed me the activa after he rode ot for 45k kms..i have been riding for only last 4.5k kms :P

                  planning to side gap my spark plugs and see some difference...just a simple mod(still wondering how to do it..i dont have any tools for it)..if it doesnt work will change to new plugs...they were changed about 2 years ago...belt is fine and ws changed when needed be(as told by my brother) and clutch shoe was taken care of and replaced last year...i did a major clutch overhaul back then...there ws some damage in clutch cover and had to replace it...even got some starter bendex and stuff replaced....but i guess the scoot gives bad mileage and doesnt perform well because it is taken out just once a week and that too for very little distance...btw what are varitor rollers?

                  i dunno how they last 70=80k kms without any overhaul...of all the mechanics i speak to they say most of the scoots they repair or service are goo for first 3 years and then with some good amount of repairs will work for next 3 years..after that they reach a point of life when it isnt worth investing more in it....every mechanic i spoke to said the same thing...

                  the scoot has been roughly used for 45k kms by my brother and he did a daily 40 kms travelling in a road ranging from smooth highways to what u can say as off road and pot hole ridden roads and what not...and that too was done with a total rider+pillion weight combined 180kgs and sometimes with additional weekly shopping bags and stuff...it has been abused a lot in this way...so sort of happy that it still performs this way :P
                  Pulsar 200NS parts list
                  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                  • S1d,
                    I am giving the vehicle for service in tiruvanmiyur centre. They take care it all things.
                    What is the life of clutch unit for dio?
                    Failure should never go to heart & success should never go to head,both makes a person to fall in life-Winston Churchill


                    Yesterday is history.
                    Tomorrow is a mystery.
                    Today is a gift, That is why it is called \"Present\".

                    Enjoy every moment.

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                    • Originally posted by MR ACE View Post
                      S1d,
                      I am giving the vehicle for service in tiruvanmiyur centre. They take care it all things.
                      What is the life of clutch unit for dio?
                      The life of the clutch (i.e. the clutch shoes and clutch bell) depends on how the scoot was used. The primary reason for premature wear of the clutch (i.e the shoes/bell/springs) is 'simultaneous use of brakes and opening the throttle). My scoot is at around 40000 km and i still haven't replaced the clutch bell/shoes and it still is nippy. Even the variator rollers are the stock ones (just experimented with other rollers for around 2000km), and the stock ones have flat spots and i will changing them at my next service probably in another 3 months.
                      the mechanism is a very simple one and 'cleaning' it just requires a blast of compressed air and SLIGHTLY scuffing the shoes with a hack saw blade. But do not ever scuff the clutch bell!!
                      The set of 3 clutch shoes and the small springs cost around 700rs

                      For those who want to know how the drive train (variator rollers/belt/clutch) looks like and how to be serviced pls take look at this video:
                      Scooter CVT Transmission : Full Service Inspection - YouTube



                      @mayank - you have your answers in your above post as to why you are having low mileage issues and check out the above video for what variator rollers are (those small round thingy's) - they are what control your bikes pickup and top speed (at least to a certain extent), and if they have VERY flat spot(s) then the 'nippiness' will take a beating. And also if the clutch springs (both the small and big i.e. torque spring) lose their tension you will have pick up issues, which may translate to lower mileage because the engine spins up higher but this doesn't translate to froward motion because the clutch engages at a higher rpm, i.e. you end up giving it more throttle than required which in turn burns up more fuel.

                      No offence to anyone or any brand, all scoots from the honda stable will easily run 70-80k before any major work is required if they have been maintained well. The scoots which fail sooner (under 50k) are the wego's , duro's. I serviced my scoot at a local mech (after the asc screwed up at the 4th free svc) who works only on scoots and doesn't touch motorcycles (he used to work at a honda asc long ago), and ones with most issues are the wego's and mahindra duro's. The pleasure's/suzukis are also relatively less troublesome.
                      Last edited by s1d; 04-20-2013, 12:44 AM.

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                      • Yes, I ride it to work (13KMS up and down) and not much on weekends. It is the new model Activa. Will check all the things you have mentioned and report. Thank you.

                        Originally posted by s1d View Post
                        do you usually do frequent short runs (like under 5kms) ? I guess you are using the 110cc new model activa, so your ideal mileage should be around 45kmpl. How do you check your mileage ? (Ideal method: Fill up tank, ride for around 150km and fill up again. FE= 150/amount of fuel taken in the second time)
                        0. Check your tire pressure. Seriously!! My recommendation: Front 26~28 & Rear 34~36
                        1. Replace you air filter if you haven't in the past 16000km. Max life of these air filters is around 8-10k km in our dusty conditions. And unfortunately the filters these days from honda are the 'viscous type' which are not supposed to be cleaned but just replaced.
                        2. Check the secondary(or primary as honda calls it) air filter. This is a piece of foam/sponge type filter located on the RIGHT side (i.e. the side opp to the kick start lever). Clean it and reoil it a bit.
                        3. Get the carb opened up, cleaned and re-tuned (Should be done preferably at the svc by a factory trained mech or a 'good' 'local' mech)
                        4. Hope you always maintain correct level of oil - Use honda's 10w30 oil or castrol gearless scooter oil (one of my fav personal recommendation)

                        16000 km is nothing if it has been maintained as per the schedule in the manual. My scoot is at around 40k km now after 6 yrs, and it still returns a consistent mileage of 38~42kmpl in the city and 46kmpl on the highway and the pick up and nippiness is still VERY good even after all these years/kms.
                        Report back after doing the above 5 steps.

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                        • Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

                          hey guys.. just wanted to let you know on my feedback of the castrol gearless scooter oil.
                          i has been 2.5 months now and the oil is performing really well even in this peak summer heat in hyderabad. there has been no over heating, sluggish behavior, 'roughness', starting trouble and i am really impressed with this oil. It has been around 1600km now and the oil looks like it will hold good for at least another 1000km
                          I highly recommend this oil for gear less scoots..

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                          • Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

                            Hello friends,

                            My wife has a 4 year old Dio. She suffers from cervical spondylitis which I suspect has been triggered by the Dio's poor front suspension.

                            I will be grateful to Aviator users for their feedback on the front suspension of this scooter; I feel it is much superior to the Dio's. Difficult to get a test ride so will depend on your inputs.

                            Thanks.

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                            • Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

                              Originally posted by icemang View Post
                              Hello friends,

                              My wife has a 4 year old Dio. She suffers from cervical spondylitis which I suspect has been triggered by the Dio's poor front suspension.

                              I will be grateful to Aviator users for their feedback on the front suspension of this scooter; I feel it is much superior to the Dio's. Difficult to get a test ride so will depend on your inputs.

                              Thanks.

                              I have used the Aviator extensively for more than 30,000km & it is excellent scooter in every way. The front tires are 12 inch while the rear are 10 inch. The front comes with telescopic suspension & it handles bad roads quite well. The disc brakes gives best braking power among scooters.
                              The only problem your wife may face is of the seat height. It has around 790mm seat height which is a bit high & wide considering other scooter.
                              Recently I used my friend's TVS Wego for around a week (didn't want my bike to get muddy in first rains ) I felt the Wego is more comfortable with both 12 inch rims, telescopic suspension in front & gas charged rear suspension in rear. Has more features like front glove box, fuel filling without opening the seat etc. The scooter is running smooth even after covering 18K km. The new Wego comes with optional front disc brakes. Hope this helped you.

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                              • Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

                                Originally posted by Traveller01 View Post
                                I have used the Aviator extensively for more than 30,000km & it is excellent scooter in every way. The front tires are 12 inch while the rear are 10 inch. The front comes with telescopic suspension & it handles bad roads quite well. The disc brakes gives best braking power among scooters.
                                The only problem your wife may face is of the seat height. It has around 790mm seat height which is a bit high & wide considering other scooter.
                                Recently I used my friend's TVS Wego for around a week (didn't want my bike to get muddy in first rains ) I felt the Wego is more comfortable with both 12 inch rims, telescopic suspension in front & gas charged rear suspension in rear. Has more features like front glove box, fuel filling without opening the seat etc. The scooter is running smooth even after covering 18K km. The new Wego comes with optional front disc brakes. Hope this helped you.
                                Thanks for the really prompt reply. I too felt the same. Seat height is not an issue as my wife is 5 ft 10"" tall.

                                Head to head, it seems that the TVS Wego is superior in terms of the overall offering. I am a bit partial to the engines of Honda

                                Again, thanks a lot.

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