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**muztariq** · 09-08-2014, 09:23 PM

Re: Yamaha SZ-X / SZ-R

Originally posted by sudipt24 View Post

Hi Guys.
i have 3 things about my SZR, bothering me.

1. Black Smoke coming out of the Exhaust on higher RPM. 5K & Above. went to the mechanic and he says the Head is gone, he wants the bike for the whole day so he can go the Ledge and do some repairs and alignment. Dont have any idea what does that mean.
2. Bike is getting off while riding. dont have any starting problem whatsoever. but when i drive then only the problem starts. i have noticed when i apply Brakes and Clutch and RPM is very low the bike stops. as i dont have a Kicker, so self start again to drive. I must say here that Yamaha's Ignition units are very good. but i am confused with this problem. i went to a mechanic and he made some adjustments and changed the Idle RPM to 1.5k from 1k. but still getting this trouble.
3.my bike is 3 yrs old now. its give a mileage of 38-41KMPL. i didn't had any issues with the mileage from the beginning and not even now also. the thing which i like the most was the Pick up, which now is missing. even in the 3rd gear with low RPM, the bike struggles. then i need to change to 2nd for a bit of torque. the moment the RPM comes down to a range of 2-3k in 3rd or 4th Gear the bike starts to struggle. then i need to change it to 2nd and it works. i don't know why this is happening.

Guys i need help in these 3 issues of my Bike. i request all of you to please help me in this. i need to know if the mechanic is right or he just trying to fool me.

Replace air filter, spark plug, oil filter - if not done in the last few thousand kms. Get the carb cleaned simultaneously. This should bring back the lost glory of your machine. If it doesnt, the clutch plates may require a change too.

**abdulij** · 09-12-2014, 01:00 PM

Re: Yamaha SZ-X / SZ-R

Hi Experts,
I am new to xbhp.I was about to buy a SS125 last night (it costed me around 64K onroad in chennai ) but I changed my mind last minute!!!!and booked SZ S - 68 K on road with fittings...
Expected delivery on coming Wednesday.
So guys please advise proper technique for breaking in new bike because this my first NEW bike.
Note: Please use simple English word without short form because I have a very average knowledge in English.
Thanks,Abdul

**curve_king** · 09-12-2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by abdulij View Post

Hi Experts,
I am new to xbhp.I was about to buy a SS125..changed my mind last minute!!!!and booked SZ S - 68 K on road with fittings...
Expected delivery on coming Wednesday.
So guys please advise proper technique for breaking in new bike because this my first NEW bike.
Note: Please use simple English word without short form...

Congrats on the booking.

Engine break-in for new bike is very important.Read the part about break-in in the owners manual atleast 4-5 times so that you never forget to follow it.
Apart from that, find out the best service center in your city(/area) for your free services..
And also after 1000km please do change 1.engine oil, 2.engine oil filter & 3."engine oil strainer".
Just follow your owners manual very carefully & the bike will keep you happy.

**ep452** · 09-28-2014, 01:20 PM

Re: Yamaha SZ-X / SZ-R

hi all,

how good is szr for long rides...? like around 150 km.

**curve_king** · 09-28-2014, 01:39 PM

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Unfortunately Haven't had the chance to go fo a long ride of >60 kms..but I guess any 'well maintained' bike with correct tappet adjustment, good quality oil of correct/recommended grade, clean air filter n correct carb adjustment will be good for 150-200 kms anytime...but Apart from this it depends on the feel of the ride while biking..if its heating up too much, just as a precaution better to take a break & check on oil than ride on low oil (if bike has developed common leaks through piston rings, valve gaskets, etc)..I'm not trying to discourage, but all bikes need this kind of adjustment/maintenance.

**curve_king** · 09-28-2014, 01:40 PM

Re: Yamaha SZ-X / SZ-R

Originally posted by ep452 View Post

hi all,

how good is szr for long rides...? like around 150 km.

Unfortunately Haven't had the chance to go fo a long ride of >60 kms..but I guess any 'well maintained' bike with correct tappet adjustment, good quality oil of correct/recommended grade, clean air filter n correct carb adjustment will be good for 150-200 kms anytime...but Apart from this it depends on the feel of the ride while biking..if its heating up too much, just as a precaution better to take a break & check on oil than ride on low oil (if bike has developed common leaks through piston rings, valve gaskets, etc)..I'm not trying to discourage, but all bikes need this kind of adjustment/maintenance.

**krishna77** · 09-28-2014, 02:10 PM

Re: Yamaha SZ-X / SZ-R

Originally posted by ep452 View Post

hi all,

how good is szr for long rides...? like around 150 km.

I have done several 200km+ rides within 4-4.5 hr.s which included some of the worst possible Indian roads on my SS125. SZ having a bigger heart won't have any problems IMO. Just ensure the tappet adjustment and the tyre pressure is correct. Also, lube the chain well before the ride. You won't have any problems. All the best!

**kusmaker** · 09-28-2014, 02:34 PM

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Just want to know, what is the reason behind low sales of Szr, the engine is same detuned version of Fz, handling is like all other yamaha bikes, reliability if we leave one or two instance than there shouldn't be any problem, spares are not a problem and still one can't see this bike on road. Any guess from you guys.

**krishna77** · 09-28-2014, 02:49 PM

Re: Yamaha SZ-X / SZ-R

Originally posted by kusmaker View Post

Just want to know, what is the reason behind low sales of Szr, the engine is same detuned version of Fz, handling is like all other yamaha bikes, reliability if we leave one or two instance than there shouldn't be any problem, spares are not a problem and still one can't see this bike on road. Any guess from you guys.

The pathetic marketing of Yamaha is to be blamed here. Whatever marketing they do, is centered around R15/FZ/FAZER/RAY/ALPHA. They don't even bother to put up a billboard for a SS/YBR/SZ. All of them are very good bikes. Whoever buys a SS/YBR/SZ buys after own research and reading reviews. And look at Bajaj,Hero,TVS and Honda - they are everywhere in print/electronic media, signboards and onlline. A common man might not avail of a biking forum/community. He might not read reviews. Only because of better marketing, many below average products are topping sales-charts.

**kusmaker** · 09-28-2014, 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by krishna77 View Post

The pathetic marketing of Yamaha is to be blamed here. Whatever marketing they do, is centered around R15/FZ/FAZER/RAY/ALPHA. They don't even bother to put up a billboard for a SS/YBR/SZ. All of them are very good bikes. Whoever buys a SS/YBR/SZ buys after own research and reading reviews. And look at Bajaj,Hero,TVS and Honda - they are everywhere in print/electronic media, signboards and onlline. A common man might not avail of a biking forum/community. He might not read reviews. Only because of better marketing, many below average products are topping sales-charts.

That's a fair answer i believe, if i think of buying another bike then i will go for SZR ,yes you are right yamaha don't spend too much of money on advertisements, they are not even advertising crux which is a quite brilliant bike, most of the bike people talks about cd dawn, passion pro, but no one even thinks of buying this bike, bajaj is master in marketing below average bikes by just marketing gimmicks.

**krishna77** · 09-28-2014, 05:36 PM

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Absolutely.
I've suggested many people CRUX while they were in the lookout of a ~ 100cc. They just laughed me off and ended up buying something either from the Splendor series or from the Discover series. IMO, CRUX is far better than any of these two. Reminds me of Rajdoot in it's glory days. Not so beautiful but tough.
Almost every SZ owner would agree about the quality of the bike and specially the exhaust note. You can't ask for anything more in this price point. Any I find most of the people obsessed about the power output. Like the no. of BHPs, the no. of ccs, 0-60 sec dashes etc. Is power everything? There is at least one thing common in human and bikes. The most powerful one is not always the best one!

**kusmaker** · 09-28-2014, 06:42 PM

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Is power everything? well for weak person yes power is everything, just look at the bashing yamaha is getting for Fz v2, they have just reduced power by just just 1bhp, and the company is taking all the beating as if everything is lost, from bike journalist to test riders all are hitting yamaha, in a country where average speed in a metropolitan city is no more 15 to 20 km/h, where roads are as bad as moon surface, where you will find every kind of vehicle on road from handcart to cyle to bullock cart to bentley, we always crave for power and power not at the cost of mileage,maintenance.

**lalitp** · 09-28-2014, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by ep452 View Post

hi all,

how good is szr for long rides...? like around 150 km.

I did numerous rides on my SZ-R to places near to Pune. Longest ride that I did was about 350 kms in a day. The bike is very much capable of long rides. I do quite a lot of longish rides on it. Last time I rode to Mahabaleshwar which is 130 kms one way from my house. While returning back, I ripped the heck out of my bike.

It was fun.

It did 80+ kmph on highway with no problem.

Coming to reason for the less number of this bike on road is, mileage. This bike would mostly would give 40-45 kmpl on a given day provided you followed co. instructions about proper run-in. In a mileage obsessed crowd this bike doesnt fair well. What if I tell you this bike gives 3-4 kmpl less than Unicorn but it has top speed equivalent of Unicorn. It also has top speed at par with Hunk not sure about CBZ. I touched 110 kmph on an open stretch on highway.

Like I said before and now saying it again. This bike is capable of doing much more things that many people think of.

My bike will be 4 year old next Feb and I still love it.

**krishna77** · 09-28-2014, 06:45 PM

Re: Yamaha SZ-X / SZ-R

Originally posted by kusmaker View Post

Is power everything? well for weak person yes power is everything, just look at the bashing yamaha is getting for Fz v2, they have just reduced power by just just 1bhp, and the company is taking all the beating as if everything is lost, from bike journalist to test riders all are hitting yamaha, in a country where average speed in a metropolitan city is no more 15 to 20 km/h, where roads are as bad as moon surface, where you will find every kind of vehicle on road from handcart to cyle to bullock cart to bentley, we always crave for power and power not at the cost of mileage,maintenance.

+1 for that.

**kusmaker** · 09-28-2014, 08:11 PM

Re: Yamaha SZ-X / SZ-R

Originally posted by lalitp View Post

I did numerous rides on my SZ-R to places near to Pune. Longest ride that I did was about 350 kms in a day. The bike is very much capable of long rides. I do quite a lot of longish rides on it. Last time I rode to Mahabaleshwar which is 130 kms one way from my house. While returning back, I ripped the heck out of my bike.

It was fun.

It did 80+ kmph on highway with no problem.

Coming to reason for the less number of this bike on road is, mileage. This bike would mostly would give 40-45 kmpl on a given day provided you followed co. instructions about proper run-in. In a mileage obsessed crowd this bike doesnt fair well. What if I tell you this bike gives 3-4 kmpl less than Unicorn but it has top speed equivalent of Unicorn. It also has top speed at par with Hunk not sure about CBZ. I touched 110 kmph on an open stretch on highway.

Like I said before and now saying it again. This bike is capable of doing much more things that many people think of.

My bike will be 4 year old next Feb and I still love it.

Keep loving her bro and she will return love with equal force, how was the engine sound when you touched 110.
40 to 45 km/l in city riding is quite good with lots of low and mid end torque, plus yamaha's engines are never known for stupendous mileage they are always known for there rock solid relalibilty and this slight less mileage from the competition is one reason for the long running of yamaha's engines.

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