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**rkakkar** · 03-25-2012, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

^^^ another thing that you should get checked are the drive cushes. With age these rubber cushes harden up and do no effectively absorb final drive train vibrations thus making the bike feel viby and rough. Replacing bad cushes will make a world of difference.

Where are these drive cushes?

Originally posted by muztariq View Post

have not seen anyone here doing a clutch plate change at that interval.. Try fs oil from motul.. It will be rectified for sure. But for how long is a concern.. If it comes back soon.. Retain your fs and go for clutch plate change.. There are many reasons for roughness you should also check chain, sparkplug, airfilter etc. Refer to post 13592 here, by abhimanyu31 regarding the same.

Thanks a lot for a reply! By roughness I mean I have to kinda force it into gear, but at 5K and above it shifts smoothly. How would spark plug affeCt this?

**muztariq** · 03-26-2012, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by rkakkar View Post

Where are these drive cushes?

That only abhimanyu can tell! :-)

Thanks a lot for a reply! By roughness I mean I have to kinda force it into gear, but at 5K and above it shifts smoothly. How would spark plug affeCt this?

i thought engine roughness.. Its a gear shift problem and should go with fs oil..i had a similar problem with my bike.. Thought first service will cure that but didnt.. I started using ss.. First oil i tested was castrol power 1 ss.. The smoothness imparted was just great.. But after 500 kms same problems started.. Eventually took fs from shell and it went away never to return.. Hope you are facing same ss degradation in some unexplainable way as you have covered 1k on it.. By the way which ss you have?

**cscsarkar331** · 03-26-2012, 04:43 PM

guys a little problem,today when lubing my Fz16's chain I put it in the centre stand & was doing cleaning when I noticed that in gear when I press the clutch completely the rear wheel is not stopping.then I stopped the engine,bring the gear back to neutral started the engine...then IN NEUTRAL THE WHEEL IS SHOWING NO MOVEMENT,BUT AS SOON AS I COMPLETELY PRESSED THE CLUTCH LEVER & DUMPED THE GEAR TO 1ST THE WHEEL STARTED TO MOVE WITH CLUTCH ENGAGED.Was not the rear tyre NOT supposed to move when the clutch is fully pressed??please help me on this

does this indicate that my clutch plate life is gone??also the gear was changed without any effort from 1st to 2nd directly(note* the clutch was dumped,I didnot even touched the clutch) & again when I slightly pressed the gear came back to neutral(with clutch engaged)..

**kinshuk.arya** · 03-26-2012, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by cscsarkar331 View Post

guys a little problem,today when lubing my Fz16's chain I put it in the centre stand & was doing cleaning when I noticed that in gear when I press the clutch completely the rear wheel is not stopping.then I stopped the engine,bring the gear back to neutral started the engine...then IN NEUTRAL THE WHEEL IS SHOWING NO MOVEMENT,BUT AS SOON AS I COMPLETELY PRESSED THE CLUTCH LEVER & DUMPED THE GEAR TO 1ST THE WHEEL STARTED TO MOVE WITH CLUTCH ENGAGED.Was not the rear tyre NOT supposed to move when the clutch is fully pressed??please help me on this

does this indicate that my clutch plate life is gone??also the gear was changed without any effort from 1st to 2nd directly(note* the clutch was dumped,I didnot even touched the clutch) & again when I slightly pressed the gear came back to neutral(with clutch engaged)..

its normal nothing to worry about....

**cscsarkar331** · 03-26-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post

its normal nothing to worry about....

But earlier when I used to press the clutch the rear tyre wouldnot move in stop condition,only recently it is happening.

**sxrmafia** · 03-26-2012, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by cscsarkar331 View Post

But earlier when I used to press the clutch the rear tyre wouldnot move in stop condition,only recently it is happening.

Adjust the clutch , check free play

**cscsarkar331** · 03-26-2012, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by sxrmafia View Post

Adjust the clutch , check free play

That is exactly fine with some freeplay as given sfter the company services for 2years.

**greenknight** · 03-26-2012, 10:55 PM

weird issue on my fazer.
I was having pickup issues from some time.. Got a servicing done 220 Km ago, carb was opened and cleaned in hopes of finding a fault there. But no fault there. Changed to Motul 300V 15w50 FS. After service the bike was the smoothest I have rode ever..
Two days back I was on a office offsite meet near Lavasa, some 15 km of off roading. Later I tried my hands at riding uphill to Lavasa with a pillion and I could see that my bike was just not pulling through, noticed the rpm's drop in 3rd gear when the throttle was wide open during the climb.

Fast forward today.
Bike feels royal rough. Also started on an incline on first gear, the bike pulled to 3K rpm and then I could notice the rpm's start dropping.
Looks like carb or fuel flow issue?

PS: Fuel tank is almost full. I have checked the engine oil. Still pretty green and going good.

**greenknight** · 03-26-2012, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by muztariq View Post

i thought engine roughness.. Its a gear shift problem and should go with fs oil..i had a similar problem with my bike.. Thought first service will cure that but didnt.. I started using ss.. First oil i tested was castrol power 1 ss.. The smoothness imparted was just great.. But after 500 kms same problems started.. Eventually took fs from shell and it went away never to return.. Hope you are facing same ss degradation in some unexplainable way as you have covered 1k on it.. By the way which ss you have?

Which grade of Shell FS do you use? Where are you located? I mean I want to know your city temperatures.

**BAMBI143** · 03-26-2012, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by SpeedyKol View Post

What is the exact oil name? I mean, like 20w50 oil, what is the grade of it? Where would I get it in Kolkata? Any good SS in Castrol range? And price of Shell ax7 and others plz.

I guess 20w50 isn't right for fz though I don't have enough knowledge.I'm using motul 5100 ester SS 15w50 ,motul 300v FS is also available there are many shops in kolkata where you can find this oils specially in welllington and shyambazar.

One more question a shop owner tried to sell me Valvoline 20W50 FS cost 280(1L) rs I was like

is this a good oil or correct grade for fz?

**muztariq** · 03-27-2012, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by greenknight View Post

weird issue on my fazer.
I was having pickup issues from some time.. Got a servicing done 220 Km ago, carb was opened and cleaned in hopes of finding a fault there. But no fault there. Changed to Motul 300V 15w50 FS. After service the bike was the smoothest I have rode ever..
Two days back I was on a office offsite meet near Lavasa, some 15 km of off roading. Later I tried my hands at riding uphill to Lavasa with a pillion and I could see that my bike was just not pulling through, noticed the rpm's drop in 3rd gear when the throttle was wide open during the climb.

Fast forward today.
Bike feels royal rough. Also started on an incline on first gear, the bike pulled to 3K rpm and then I could notice the rpm's start dropping.
Looks like carb or fuel flow issue?

PS: Fuel tank is almost full. I have checked the engine oil. Still pretty green and going good.

its air flow issue.. Something is blocking your air filter flow or filter is full of dust.

Your question's ans - I am in hyd.. Temp here is from 10 to 44 deg. 10w40 works out well..

**greenknight** · 03-27-2012, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by muztariq View Post

its air flow issue.. Something is blocking your air filter flow or filter is full of dust.

Your question's ans - I am in hyd.. Temp here is from 10 to 44 deg. 10w40 works out well..

Thanks Buddy.

**Lucky Luke** · 03-27-2012, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by cscsarkar331 View Post

guys a little problem,today when lubing my Fz16's chain I put it in the centre stand & was doing cleaning when I noticed that in gear when I press the clutch completely the rear wheel is not stopping.then I stopped the engine,bring the gear back to neutral started the engine...then IN NEUTRAL THE WHEEL IS SHOWING NO MOVEMENT,BUT AS SOON AS I COMPLETELY PRESSED THE CLUTCH LEVER & DUMPED THE GEAR TO 1ST THE WHEEL STARTED TO MOVE WITH CLUTCH ENGAGED.......

WHAT??!!??!? you clean and lube your chain with engine running and in gear??!?!?

NEVER, EVER DO THAT!!! Too many people have lost bits of their fingers doing that!

Just spin you wheel by hand, engine stopped! That is IMPERATIVE!

Yes, is is normal, besides that, that your wheel turns when it is on the central stand, in gear and even completely de-cluchted, lever touching the handlebar grip, but you should then be able to hold it with just a light touch, and feel no real effort. The only spinning of the oil is sufficient to give that rotation. Would you, then, feel any torque on the wheel but a really very light one, this would mean you do not de-clutch completely enough, and should tension the cable that little more.

**summers** · 03-27-2012, 02:04 PM

hey guys,

Was thinking of joeling my bike sometime in the next few months. I was wondering, does performance upgrades affect your insurance and such?

**shv18** · 03-27-2012, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by summers View Post

hey guys,

Was thinking of joeling my bike sometime in the next few months. I was wondering, does performance upgrades affect your insurance and such?

The engine internal modifications are away from the prying eyes of the insurance guys so highly unlikely they will figure it out. However, in legal terms yes souping up your ride does void Yamaha warranty and insurance.

Cheers

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