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  • #14371
    Originally posted by gn.times View Post
    Hi

    My FZ-S clocked 20k in odo (going to do PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE by this weekend).
    Thanks to shv18 and raj157 for the suggestions

    Now I'm facing the below issue but couldn't figure out the root cause.

    For the past one week, when I release the clutch its taking sometime (around 5 secs) to respond (accelerate) and also the engine sound is bit different. I'm afraid of revving the ride, just maintaining below 5k...

    Please let me know the root cause so that I will add it to my Maintenance list before going to SVC.

    Thanks in advance.
    Your clutch plates have gone kaput... time for replacing them... costs around Rs. 700-800/-
    A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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    • #14372
      Originally posted by shv18 View Post
      Your clutch plates have gone kaput... time for replacing them... costs around Rs. 700-800/-
      Hi Shv18

      I changed clutch assembly only at 15k.. I attached the receipt.

      Is it possible that the clutch plate will wear within 5k km?
      2009 Yamaha FZ-S

      The ultimate machine to ride!!!       sigpic

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      • #14373
        Originally posted by shv18 View Post
        Recommended interval is around every 7-10,000 kms. that should keep your tank and fuel lines free of dirt and gunk..

        Cheers,
        @ shiv18, Recommend interval around 7-10k kms, What do you mean by that? To use system-G from first 7k-10k kms and again 17k-20k kms, so on......?

        Another question, as you said not to keep the petrol level below reserve, how do you check the mileage then? Can I check the mileage from blink to blink using trip meter, ie. when petrol starts blinking I set the trip to zero and then calculate again at the next blink after petrol is being poured and the vehicle has run.

        Thank You

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        • #14374
          Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
          Another question, as you said not to keep the petrol level below reserve, how do you check the mileage then? Can I check the mileage from blink to blink using trip meter, ie. when petrol starts blinking I set the trip to zero and then calculate again at the next blink after petrol is being poured and the vehicle has run.

          Thank You
          If checking by reserve to reserve, never trust the blink

          Once you hit reserve (you change mains to reserve/bike starts coughing) reset trip meter, fill up, again till it hit reserve, check the reading and calculate the mileage. (Reserve to reserve wont be as accurate as Brim to brim)
          #RetiredRider
          #KeyboardWarrior

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          • #14375
            Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
            Guys my first mileage Report

            Start Reading: 16km
            Tank Status: Empty
            Fuel Poured: 10 litres
            Reading at Reserve: 368
            Mileage: (368-16)/8.6 = 40.93 km/l

            Riding style:

            Gear changing: 3.5 - 4 k RPM
            Riding speed: 41-48 km/h (with variations)

            Second Filling

            Reserve to Reserve Checking

            Fuel poured: 3 litres
            Trip Meter Reading: 125.8 kms
            Mileage: 125.8/3 = 41.93 km/l
            Thank You
            Hello there? How are you KING MANU...
            Life is like riding a motorcycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving,to move forward you must throtle...

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            • #14376
              Originally posted by gn.times View Post
              Hi

              My FZ-S clocked 20k in odo (going to do PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE by this weekend).
              Thanks to shv18 and raj157 for the suggestions

              Now I'm facing the below issue but couldn't figure out the root cause.

              For the past one week, when I release the clutch its taking sometime (around 5 secs) to respond (accelerate) and also the engine sound is bit different. I'm afraid of revving the ride, just maintaining below 5k...

              Please let me know the root cause so that I will add it to my Maintenance list before going to SVC.

              Thanks in advance.
              Brother.Please don't worry . Just go for the normal servicing and ask the mechanic to do a clutch plate check up . Even i feel that the clutch plates needs to be changed . And as you have mentioned that is almost 20000kms... and you have changed it at 15k. Its sometimes possible that the clutch plates wear out due to either constant use of clutch or due to rough use.... please get it checked at a good SC.... and take a test ride of minimum 5-8 kms before taking delivery...... And keep us informed about the status..
              Last edited by raj157; 07-11-2012, 12:52 AM.
              Life is like riding a motorcycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving,to move forward you must throtle...

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              • #14377
                Originally posted by gn.times View Post
                Hi Shv18

                I changed clutch assembly only at 15k.. I attached the receipt.

                Is it possible that the clutch plate will wear within 5k km?
                If you "ride" (partly engage while taking off from start too long) the clutch you can burn it out within a few kms. Depending on of course how badly you "ride" the clutch.

                Use the wrong oil in wet clutch = burnt clutch.
                residual oil/grease on the friction surface = excess slipping which generates heat which glazes over/burns the clutches out.

                Improper clutch cable adjustment. If the cable is too "tight" and not allowing the clutch to engage fully then it will constantly slip.

                Its very easy to burn clutches. They are designed to grip but some slipping is always there to allow for smooth take ups.

                Easy way to test if clutch is worn in both bike and car.
                Go approx 40kph.
                Select the tallest gear 4-5-6.
                floor/twist the throttle wide open.

                If the vehicle jerks, bucks, behaves very roughly then clutches are gripping.

                If the vehicle's engine rpm's go up without much change in road speed then clutch/es are slipping.
                Last edited by Mad Mik; 07-11-2012, 01:21 AM.
                2013 Ducati M795 with a few mods in here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...95-owners.html
                Want to talk about modding your FZ? http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tech-talk.html
                My videos http://www.youtube.com/user/FZSMik/videos

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                • #14378
                  gn.times- Brother. Mik informed about a quite interesting experiment to check clutch slipage. And i think the same thing is happening to you i.e the vehicle's engine rpm's go up without much change in road speed so.... clutch/es are slipping.. Plz get it checked as soon as possible.
                  Life is like riding a motorcycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving,to move forward you must throtle...

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                  • #14379
                    Originally posted by gn.times View Post
                    Hi Shv18

                    I changed clutch assembly only at 15k.. I attached the receipt.

                    Is it possible that the clutch plate will wear within 5k km?
                    Yup it is possible.. like and Mad Mik and others have pointed out.. if you have been riding your bike mostly on half clutch may be unknowingly, the clutch plates will get shot in a very short span.. In my case, i am still on stock clutch plates for over 22, 000 kms and they are running fine..

                    Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                    @ shiv18, Recommend interval around 7-10k kms, What do you mean by that? To use system-G from first 7k-10k kms and again 17k-20k kms, so on......?

                    Another question, as you said not to keep the petrol level below reserve, how do you check the mileage then? Can I check the mileage from blink to blink using trip meter, ie. when petrol starts blinking I set the trip to zero and then calculate again at the next blink after petrol is being poured and the vehicle has run.

                    Thank You
                    The Second question has already been answered. Yes the recommended interval is 7-10,000 kms. You don't have to regularly use system G whenever you fill fuel in the tank.. not needed!! do it after clocking 5000 kms on the odo.
                    Last edited by shv18; 07-11-2012, 12:24 PM.
                    A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                    • #14380
                      Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                      ....I was asking shiv18 about using System-G once in a bluemoon after 5k ODO.................
                      Since my car has already done 5K ODO, I'm going to use this regularly with the car but I'm completely confused about the once in bluemoon thing.
                      Mate: you are hilarious!!!
                      What about a little Google search for the expression "once in a blue moon"
                      When I do something stupid, my consolation is to know that I'll do the worse one only once!

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                      • #14381
                        Originally posted by Mad Mik View Post
                        Can you please tell me the mileage of your new engine Vs previous engine?

                        Also is the kick starter more difficult due to the extra 50cc?

                        How does this mod affect battery life? Will you be needing to replace the battery more often since you have a bigger engine now?
                        Seems it is the "humor me" day today !!!
                        When I do something stupid, my consolation is to know that I'll do the worse one only once!

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                        • #14382
                          hi want to need help

                          fz (2008) is 53 k in odo should i replace the block piston set , silent chain , valve sets and many more things as svc telling me or just go for the engine over hauling ??

                          should i stick to Gulf Pride 4T Plus (20W40)(190rs per lit) Mineral Oil or change to Elf Moto4 Gold (20W40)(240rs per liter) Mineral or Yamaha lube (20W40)(don't know new rate)

                          as my weekly diving condition is about 180 to 250 km per week and offen change my engine oil in 1300km to 1500km or in one month ..

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                          • #14383
                            Originally posted by vinay1552 View Post
                            hi want to need help

                            fz (2008) is 53 k in odo should i replace the block piston set , silent chain , valve sets and many more things as svc telling me or just go for the engine over hauling ??

                            should i stick to Gulf Pride 4T Plus (20W40)(190rs per lit) Mineral Oil or change to Elf Moto4 Gold (20W40)(240rs per liter) Mineral or Yamaha lube (20W40)(don't know new rate)

                            as my weekly diving condition is about 180 to 250 km per week and offen change my engine oil in 1300km to 1500km or in one month ..
                            Whats wrong with your engine?
                            Have the rings worn out?
                            If the engine is still ok then leave it, Otherwise it would be wise to replace block, piston, cam, chain, bearings, oil pump, etc.
                            2013 Ducati M795 with a few mods in here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...95-owners.html
                            Want to talk about modding your FZ? http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tech-talk.html
                            My videos http://www.youtube.com/user/FZSMik/videos

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                            • #14384
                              @ Mad mik

                              well mine bike get choking if i kept it around btw 4000 to 5500 rpm and its not getting pickup in 1st gear and my chain socket haven't been change till know and its silent chain to sounds sum time n and some time throttle to feel hard and clutch plate haven't been change around 12k back...

                              prevues month 25 June 2012 i have change my oil but through different shop and its 426 km till now as i was thinking that this throttle prob is due to pirate oil or some thing else ...
                              Last edited by vinay1552; 07-11-2012, 04:00 PM.

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                              • #14385
                                wanna know the price of the bore and piston of fz 16...

                                dear friends... i got a problem with my bike which was clocked around 19k on the odo... now a days m facing a problem with my bike engine... i m noticing excess amount of carbon release from my exhaust... bikes pick up also going down goin down day by day... engine geting hit pretty soon... engine oil dries out in a matter of 1k running on odo... i m noticing that efficiency (in the sance of milage and power both) also decreasing... consulted with SVC guys yesterday... they are sugesting for a piston block change... i really cant trust on those guys... so can u guys please suggest me solution to this problem and if i have to cange the piston block assembly then how much its gonna cost me get a new one... waiting for your reply....

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