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  • Originally posted by vinay1552 View Post
    got a new mod in fz added 15t (cost 25rs) front sprocket of pulsar 150 . A driving of 11km the engine is getting over heat to much than the stock 14t . I like the 15t bcos its giving me less gear use in city ride n 3rd and 4th gear is o some.... i want to know that is it okie that engine is over heating too much kindly help me thanks ...
    You should revert to the 14 teeth sprocket then.
    With the longer ratio that the 15 teeth gives, you have to ask the engine to deliver more torque at the same revs, but with still the same (insufficient) cooling while you are at the same speed.

    15 teeth would be OK for people who do long rides at speed on flat highway: they will then use less gas, but just gear down to fourth when they need to take over while they might have been able to get a good acceleration in fifth with the original sprocket.

    This might not have been our best idea, but both Mad Mik and I have now 200cc. engines (Joel is against this increase in capacity: 180 is what it has to be, is his trust-able opinion). Then, the 15 teeth sprocket is better with our extra power and torque, and gives the same speed at lower revs. I got 130 kmh yesterday, crouched and with slight tail wind, rev counter at about 9,000 rpm. Will do better when the engine will be well run-in. Don't know when the engine will burst, though!
    Joel been able to reach 135kmh. at 9,500 rpm. (maximum allowed by stock CDI) with stock sprocket (but Race Concept prepared engine). If he had a 15 teeth one (and the power to get faster), that would have been 135/14*15= 145 kmh!!!!
    Last edited by Lucky Luke; 07-19-2012, 05:02 PM.
    When I do something stupid, my consolation is to know that I'll do the worse one only once!

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    • Thanks

      Thanks .. lucky luke

      For your info and help i was thinking that 15t is capable with stock engine sure by eve i will be back with stock 14t.

      one more question if i go for bigger rear sprocket should i have to change the clutch hub.. where the rear sprocket is attached??

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      • Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post
        6,000 rpm (on cold start) and then pull the choke???? Are you guys nuts, or what?

        I have rarely read something as senseless as this choke discussion right here (not only you, RAK)!

        Just read the owner's manual before writing recommendation on a subject about which you know nothing! Sorry to be so abrupt, but it had to be said clearly!

        The choke is there to reduce the quantity of air, while keeping the quantity of gas. This richer mixture will ignite better in COLD start than the normal running one. The choke has to be pulled before starting the engine, it is totally useless after (unless the engine keeps stalling, meaning you should have used the choke).

        If the engine has been able to start and maintain a speed revved up to, say: 2,000 rpm (which one has to do by holding the throttle), that is all you need to do. Just warm up quietly, with the occasional very short burst up to some 4,000 rpm (NOT 6k!) if you wish. In our tropical countries (I mean South India, Vietnam, etc...) the choke should never be needed. In North India, where as far as I know, it can get damn cold, just pull the choke before starting, every time when it is cold!

        If the engine stalls right after a start, that means you should have pulled the choke. Sometimes, it may be able to keep idling, but stops the moment you open the throttle. Should have used the choke there too. Once you can feel that the engine idles normally, push back the lever. It will then feel fine and not stall when opening the throttle.

        There again: read the owners manual.
        Actually I think I was not clear with my comments here. What I meant was when firing up I normally give a burst till 6K (just the first one and not keep the throttle at 6K). I understand that using choke makes the mixture rich and one needs to adjust the choke lever so as the engine dont stall. But never knew that choke needs to be pulled before firing up. I always did it after firing up.
        Last edited by RAK; 07-19-2012, 07:07 PM.

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        • 15 amps fuse or 30 amp fuse

          today early in morning around 6 am fz fuse has blown up . As the fuse blown up i drive up about 17km to 20 km after that the engine is getting hiccups in every gear ... gone to road side mechanic shop change the fuse and engine is okie again i want to ask a qus to all xbhp member how the fuse is related to engine hiccups ?? me very much surprise to know that information..

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          • Fuel guage issues

            Guys my petrol tank is filled with ~ 4 litres of petrol and the fuel gauge was showing 2 blocks which is default. But today I noticed that after keeping the bike in side stand for few minutes and again riding, I saw that fuel meter was showing - blinking with one block. And again when I put in centre stand, it was showing 2 blocks. This see-saw is happening everytime the bike is kept in side and centre stands.

            Guys just want to ask you if it is the same with everyone? else I want to report this to SVC guys.

            Really we need to give zero marks to Yamaha when it comes to meter console and electricals. I saw pulsar turn-in indicator automatically switch off like one in cars. Yamaha has least things in the meter console and they couldn't do it in perfection. Some bikes have 10s of things to do with meter console

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            • @ Jonahmano

              +1 for you buddy

              well i to face this problem early and all of sudden the fuel gauge show fuel full tank signal and form that day my fuel gauge always show full tank even my bike was in reserve condition

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              • Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                Guys my petrol tank is filled with ~ 4 litres of petrol and the fuel gauge was showing 2 blocks which is default. But today I noticed that after keeping the bike in side stand for few minutes and again riding, I saw that fuel meter was showing - blinking with one block. And again when I put in centre stand, it was showing 2 blocks. This see-saw is happening everytime the bike is kept in side and centre stands.

                Guys just want to ask you if it is the same with everyone? else I want to report this to SVC guys.

                Really we need to give zero marks to Yamaha when it comes to meter console and electricals. I saw pulsar turn-in indicator automatically switch off like one in cars. Yamaha has least things in the meter console and they couldn't do it in perfection. Some bikes have 10s of things to do with meter console
                Jonah, it is funny when i see you complain over small things. This is normal as the digital gauge is based on a floater device inside the tank. When you keep the bike on the side stand, the fuel flows over to the other side, reducing the pressure on the floater thus, the incorrect reading being shown. All you need to do is keep the bike on centre stand or else while sitting on it balance it to center, switch off the console and put it on start mode again, it will show you the correct figure. This happens on other bikes as well with a digital fuel gauge.

                The gauge goes kaput on a lot of FZ's which have been ridden only filling 1 or 2 ltrs for the whole period of ownership. As a result the floater device slowly gets jammed due to corrosion (Have seen it personally and as per the discussion with the SVC guys).

                Cheers,
                Last edited by shv18; 07-19-2012, 09:21 PM.
                A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                • The gauge goes kaput on a lot of FZ's which have been ridden only filling 1 or 2 ltrs for the whole period of ownership. As a result the floater device slowly gets jammed due to corrosion

                  @ shv

                  dont know about this jammed issue about fuel gauge ... i think this is the main reason that my floater all ways blink fully .. is there any solution to correct this blinking...

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                  • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                    Jonah, it is funny when i see you complain over small things. This is normal as the digital gauge is based on a floater device inside the tank. When you keep the bike on the side stand, the fuel flows over to the other side, reducing the pressure on the floater thus, the incorrect reading being shown. All you need to do is keep the bike on centre stand or else while sitting on it balance it to center, switch off the console and put it on start mode again, it will show you the correct figure. This happens on other bikes as well with a digital fuel gauge.

                    The gauge goes kaput on a lot of FZ's which have been ridden only filling 1 or 2 ltrs for the whole period of ownership. As a result the floater device slowly gets jammed due to corrosion (Have seen it personally and as per the discussion with the SVC guys).

                    Cheers,
                    @shiv18

                    Do you mean hereafter I must fill the petrol to the brim. You mean check mileage from full tank to reserve? But someone said filling full tank is not good for the vehicle. Is it true?

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                    • Originally posted by vinay1552 View Post
                      The gauge goes kaput on a lot of FZ's which have been ridden only filling 1 or 2 ltrs for the whole period of ownership. As a result the floater device slowly gets jammed due to corrosion

                      @ shv

                      dont know about this jammed issue about fuel gauge ... i think this is the main reason that my floater all ways blink fully .. is there any solution to correct this blinking...
                      You will have to replace the sensor.. i don't think there is any other alternative to the same.

                      Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                      @shiv18

                      Do you mean hereafter I must fill the petrol to the brim. You mean check mileage from full tank to reserve? But someone said filling full tank is not good for the vehicle. Is it true?
                      Nope not that you must fill it to the brim. just that don't keep her riding only on reserve throughout... Too much space for air in the tank leads to corrosion of the tank internal and so does with the sensor.

                      May i dare to ask what kind of rider friend do you have who recommend stupid points to keep the bike trouble free?? Yes you can fill the tank to the brim. No problem with that. You check the FE from full tank to reserve and do that again the second time... it gives you more accurate figure compared to putting 3/4 ltrs only.

                      Cheers,
                      A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                      • fuel sensor ( sender assy)

                        thanks shv

                        yep i search it on net and get the name of that fuel sensor its called sender assy cost around 180 to 250 i think

                        Thanks for your help.

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                        • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                          As a result the floater device slowly gets jammed due to corrosion (Have seen it personally and as per the discussion with the SVC guys).

                          Cheers,
                          This is why I keep telling people to make sure their fuel tanks are kept as full as possible.

                          Originally posted by vinay1552 View Post
                          dont know about this jammed issue about fuel gauge ... i think this is the main reason that my floater all ways blink fully .. is there any solution to correct this blinking...
                          You can remove the sender, clean the contacts of corrosion, gummed up petrol (if its over a few yrs) possibly push the contacts to rub harder to get a better contact.

                          Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                          @shiv18
                          But someone said filling full tank is not good for the vehicle. Is it true?
                          Does that someone sell petrol gauge senders? If so then yes keeping your fuel tank empty as much as possible will make him more money/sales.
                          shv18 has offered a valid reason for keeping your fuel tank topped up but you still want to question it? Fair enough but that argument to me sounds like a good reason alone to keep your tank full.
                          Not only do you need to worry about your sender getting corroded but your fuel filter, carb getting clogged. I'd be more worried about that than your fuel sender. A quick visual daily before you start will confirm you have petrol in the tank which can correspond with the fuel gauge.
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                          • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                            You will have to replace the sensor.. i don't think there is any other alternative to the same.



                            Nope not that you must fill it to the brim. just that don't keep her riding only on reserve throughout... Too much space for air in the tank leads to corrosion of the tank internal and so does with the sensor.

                            May i dare to ask what kind of rider friend do you have who recommend stupid points to keep the bike trouble free?? Yes you can fill the tank to the brim. No problem with that. You check the FE from full tank to reserve and do that again the second time... it gives you more accurate figure compared to putting 3/4 ltrs only.

                            Cheers,
                            For FE check follow what Shiv said.....another thing you can do is as soon as the bike comes to reserve set the odometer to zero.......fill petrol...say 2 lts and then see how much your bike runs in 2lts till reserve .... thats it... (recommended for those who cannot afford 10lts of petrol)...... i am one of them... :-P
                            Life is like riding a motorcycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving,to move forward you must throtle...

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                            • ownership Review of Fazer:-

                              Hello Friends,
                              I am Ranjan. I was Going through various blogs ,sites,checking out various reviews regarding The Fazer. So i thought why not help my friend with a review of my own. This information which i will provide below is completely my own experience with this beauty. And let me also tell that this information is known to many of the members.... i have posted this for those who wants to buy a new bikeHERO HONDA HUNK - It was A GOO ride..though i could not feel the punch in it..more over at 80kmph the bike started shaking..vibrations were there. It offers good mileage. comfort was ok but at the first ride only i opted out.
                              2 Bajaj pulsar 220 - Gr8 bike.good power delivery.speed,control,but my friend owns a pulsar 220 and the mileage which he gets is 33:35(city:highway). Though i felt that the bike doesnt have smooth clutch changes and aslo i have seen my friend who owns pulsar suffering of high maintanence cost,bad reliability,and the biggest problem,rust and engine refinement gone within 1-1.5 years.Also i have a very trusted mechanic at my place.He said.that if u want to change a bike within 2 years go for pulsar and he also said about the above problems ar there......SAME IS THE CASE WITH PULSAR 150..........MORE OVER U WILL SEE PULSAR 150-220 FLYING EVERY WHERE(ITS LIKE A RELIANCE CDMA PHONE-EVERY ONE HAS IT)

                              3- tVS apache 180 - MILEAGE OK. RIDE WAS OK BUT THE ENGINE IS NOT REFINED AS THE HONDA AND YAMAHA...PICKUP IS GOOD,BALANCE IS GOOD. tHE BIKE I GOT TO RIDE HAD A HARD CLUTCH..bUT i had to reject as there were no showroom(good showroom)in my area.

                              4- Honda Dazzler:-i was completely satisfied with the bike.Be it mileage ,comfort,honda reliability,smoothness of the ridebraking pickup gear change everything wa snice

                              5- YAMAHA FAZER - When i saw this beauty i knew that this was my ride. It was a awesome experience to ride. good comfort,yamaha reliability,great handling ...super looks ..every thing was just perfect...

                              So i decided to buy FAZER. At first i was confused between dazzler and fazer..but the muscular looks of fazer attracted me like anything.


                              I owned the bike and m riding it from september 2011. It has clocked 4000km.(LAVA RED)

                              Now i have already told u that i did a lot of research before buying and every thing i say over here is my personal experience.


                              The Showroom people of yamaha were very friendly....their customer relation and service is superb. They call me every month to ask if i am satisfied or not.and if i face any problem,they try to resolve it as soon as possible by them.

                              i Have done 4 servicing till now.1st i have done it at 850 kms(20days).2nd at 2065 km(65 days from 1st service).though the 1st and 2nd service are at 1000 and 3000 km. i did it early and the service center people obliged. They hear to each and every problem or query and take care of them at the earliest.

                              Now as every one knows that only one headlight glows at a time due to which i had great difficulty driving on highways so on request they connected both the headlight to glow at the same time.(like R15)

                              Now about the bike....I have done 5-6 long trips with my friend from 300km up down to 700 kms up down. This baby is gr8.. Comfortable seat, good riding position..more over during long rides back and wrist do not pain at all.



                              LOOKS - This bike has gr8 looks. Every biker who passes me or whom i pass stares at me and my ride..sHE HAS GREAT LOOKS AND is a beauty. Its the best looking 153cc bike in INDIA

                              HANDLING - Due to the tyres which MRF provides-REVS-it provides great control on road. Great braking ,good stability at high sppeds126kmph!!Good discbrakes. But the tyres are prone to punctures When taking sharp turns at high spped i am sure that i wont skid or fall.. This baby has great shockers which handels the road very well. Though i had to harden the shocker 2 steps because when i ride with a pillion(68kg-my weight+60kg pillion)on high bumpers the lower stand touches and there are scratches..

                              RELIABILITY - Yamaha Fazer though it has a fiber body but compared to fibers used in any other bikes the quality of fiber is very good.. The build quality is really good. There is no noise from any part of the bike in bad roads.every part of the bike is bolted nicely....

                              FUEL CONSUMPTION - This is a really important point for all the new buyers.... After all the above information 70% people will ask "KITNA DETIHAI I.E WHATS THE MILEAGE....... I have read in many reviews that some get 35-40 some get 45-50.. My baby returns me a mileage of 56kmpl on highways and 48-52 in city/my village). Though it depend on the way u ride ur bike... I never rev high.and on a constant spped of 60-65 on highways i get 56kmph. And believe me i am not joking at all.



                              All u need to do is -1-Never ride above 50kmph before 1st service.
                              2-Gradually increase speed
                              3-Allow the engine to get to the required temperatue..i.e drive atleast 5km before going for high speed.
                              4-i change gear at 3500-4000rpm. and use clutch as less as possible.
                              5-Dont ride at constant spped say 40km or 60kmph. Vary ur speed.for the first 2000km.Slowly and gradually.
                              6-i have changed my engine oil from mineral yamalube to SEMISYNTHETIC YAMALUBE 15W-50.
                              7- rest ur bike after every 50 km till 3000km.



                              Till now i have faced only one problem i.e during long rides my engine used to get heated up. But after upgrading to semi synthetic this problem is gone.

                              I AM A REALLY HAPPY CUSTOMER OF YAMAHA. YES YAMAHA!!!!


                              LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST.TREAT FAZER AS UR WIFE UR GIRLFRIEND...THEY MAY LEAVE U BUT FAZER WILL ALWEZ REMAIN FAITHFUL IF U TAKE CARE OF HER..



                              (FEEL FREE TO ASK ANYTHING)



                              Update> Did third servicing of my babe... clocked 5250km..... she is just awesome.... no such problem.... changed stock head lights to HID.....



                              Fairing is wind tunnel tested and is great.. no wind pushing at high speeds encountered. I have myself driven it past trucks at 85k/h and didnt feel any sideways push.
                              Suspensions are great - you will glide over bumpy roads
                              You can increase the mileage by 3-4 km/l if you fill air around 40 in the rear (will reduce the grip though) DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK...
                              As mentioned everywhere, the rear seat is a little small . mODIFY IT
                              Gear shifting is minimal.. you can ride from 25k/hr to 120k/h in the 5th gear itself (will lose mileage in both the conditions)
                              The handles are slightly placed towards racing bike position and ppl who are not used to riding such bikes for long journeys will get slight pain in the wrists(this condition is worse in R15 bike, thats why it is not used for long rides) BUT FAZER IS GOOD FOR TOURING...
                              The sparkplug comes with YRCS (Yamaha ram air coolig system) that sends coolig air to the sparkplug area to maintain good performance at higher speeds also.
                              The tank which is visible to the world is actually a fiber dummy which is changeable the actual tank is below it and accommodates some 12 l of petrol.
                              Life is like riding a motorcycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving,to move forward you must throtle...

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                              • @raj157: Got a few questions for you.
                                1.Have u installed projectors with angel eyes?
                                2.Using the stock battery?
                                3.What is the temperature of the bulbs?4300k?
                                4.Can u please post a picture of the beam throw when your bike is facing a wall or long road?
                                5.Are/Were there any problems with the projector installation?

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