My first service tomorrow

Called the service personnel, a lady attended and said that tomorrow you can bring at 8 am and I asked her when I can get my bike back she said we will try to deliver before 5 p.m.(As if they are going to do great work! )

Ok before giving for first service I want to mark important things with paint marker. front and read tyres, rims, handle bar, side mirrors, monoshock, chain & sprockets, battery, front shocks, discbrake's disc, and calipers, seat, meter assemby, headlight, silencer, and pls do remind me anything else.

@ shiv18

I want to ask about certain issues going with my bike, please suggest me if it is the right way to ask them

1. Clutch is bit hard, fingers are paining during city drivings.

2. A sound comes from chain and it has to be lubed and set (may charge Rs. 100 for that)

3. Every morning bike starts with one kick or one push then stalls immediately and then it will take some time to start maybe 5 or 6 pushes or 8-10 kicks (serious issue). I can also see the bike coughing during morning starts. Maybe with the tuning am I right?

4. Break is less, will they just set it or remove the rear drum and clean the pads, as ODO is only 500 odd, I don't think they will do that.

5. Will they lube the battery terminals, anyways I'm asking them and if they don't the I have to do a DIY thing.

6. Bike is taking bit longer when self-start button is pushed. It takes bit longer than my car. my car starts very fast as i press the self but this fellow takes a bit longer I hope you understand. Is it the same with all Yamaha bikes or it's just with my bike? Should I ask this problem also.

6. Engine oil change and oil filter change: As I have changed the oil at 260 ODO. I want to change both oil and filter this time. I hope they do it. Can't say about these guys, sometimes lazy guys won't do that even thinking that it's just 500 K ODO

Tell me if I can add anymore problems to this. Shiv18 please do reply by today itself, I'm gonna give my babe next morning.

well about chain socket i do lube every 2 day with use engine oil , well the sound is coming form front socket and the level of tighten chain is at last mark but the chain is not touching the swing harms..

well last service my bike mileage has gone up mean in 100 rs 1L37ml my bike use to ride 32km but now its getting 48 in 100rs ..

so it mean that i have to retuning the cab again HMMM

And Please tell how to know that the cab is working fine or it is retuning has done properly..

Answers above in BOLD.

Cheers,

Hi,

No offense but your writing is bit confusing to understand.

If i may do the following:

1) Replace both front and rear sprockets and the chain ASAP. Stick to genuine Yamaha chain and not outside parts. Do it before you go for the cam timing chain replacement. will cost you around Rs. 1300/- for the whole set. DONOT follow the cheap trick of removing a link from the old stock chain and then tightened it... not advisable and dangerous!!

2) Replace the air filter if the last time you had got it replaced was over 12, 000 kms back. replace the spark plug as well. it will set you back by only Rs. 100-110/-. Use the stock NGK spark plug only.

3) To calculate the mileage do tank full to tank full method. once you hit reserve, fill the tank with even no. of ltrs of fuel. i.e. say 4 ltrs. Now how do you calculate the Fuel economy? Simple: the time you hit the reserve the next time just divide the no. of kms you have covered in those ltrs filled in. so in this case say if you have filled in 4 ltrs and travelled 160 kms then the mileage will be 160 kms divided by 4 ltrs= 40 kmpl (kilometers per ltr). You will have to follow the process atleast 2-3 times.. if you are consistently getting the same figure then that is the mileage you are getting from your ride.

4) Lean engine, the engine will heat up a lot and the mileage nos. will shoot up from the average mileage you used to get when the carburetor was not fiddled around with. Anyways after 53,000 kms on the ODO, i believe it will be a good thing to check the condition of the carburetor itself.. Get the fuel tank opened up and cleaned and ask the SVC guys to inspect for internal corrosion if any. Use System G once post the servicing. That should help getting rid of the dirt or gunk in the fuel lines and the fuel tank itself.

5) If you are not happy with the current engine oil, replace it along with the oil filter. Try Motul 4T 3000V 20W 40 Mineral oil. Costs same as Yamalube but i find it to be a very good performer compared to others.

6) Do a compression test of the cylinder. The tool kit should be there at the SVC itself. That should reveal if the engine piston rings have gone bad and both the piston and the rings will need a replacement like Luke and Mad Mik have suggested in their respective posts.


Hope this is clear enough and helpful.

Cheers,

thanks sir for your help very much happy to have your advice and most of it happy to be part of Xbhp and yamaha fz16

Since this is my first bike with O-ring chain,I want to ask something.My new fazer stays covered outdoors in the open,so during monsoon,some water went inside,in spite of the cover.There were several dots of rust on the chain because of this.Hence I brushed it with kerosene and used engine oil,cleaned it and then put chain lube.I'm thinking of using Industrial Grease instead of chain lube.Is it advisable?I know dust accumulation will be more,but surely there would be lesser chances of rust on the chain.

money is not the reason for that,,,,acutually i am from guwahati...and here we have just two authorised service centers.....they both are not good.......kavi koi screw tod dete h.....nd in last service they changed my engine oil without my permision ,,,,,,,i had used motul 5100 ,,,they drained it and filled yamalube mineral,,,,,,,

Guys I'm getting "thudd" sound while shifting from N to 1st gear in my FZ.
Also sometimes while downshifting from 3 to 2 or from 2 to 1 the gear is struck up and have to push 2 times to downshift.

What might be the prob??

Pls help

I suspect the clutch is not fully disengaged.
Put the bike up on center stand, making sure the rear wheel is off the ground completely.
Start the bike.
Pull and hold the clutch, then select 1st gear. Don't release the clutch at all during this test.
Check if the rear wheel is spinning or stationary.
If its spinning gently apply the rear brake (still holding the clutch lever in) to stop the wheel.
Has it started to spin again?
If the wheel is spinning, even slightly then your clutch cable needs shortening/adjusting. Depending on how many kms you have done you may need to replace the cable as these stretch over time.
the adjuster is found under a rubber boot at the pivot pin section of the lever. There will be a round circular knob that runs along a threaded sleeve. Try spinning it back or forth to make the adjustment.

The stuck downshift problem is possibly related to the clutch not disengaging fully, But when you are downshifting are you still moving forward or stationary?
Just make sure you are downshifting while moving. A bit of forward movement can make downshifting easier.

Also make sure u are using the correct oil. Motobike oil and car engine oils are very different. You don't want friction modifiers in a wet clutch.
The wrong type of oil will give you gear shift problems.

Surface rust is ok. Just use clean engine oil next time. You don't want to put metal particles into moving parts now.
Next time if you are leaving your bike outside/inside, generously put some oil on the chain and leave it. Then when you are ready to ride again, Just give it a quick wipe with a cloth and away you go.

If you grease it up then you will attract a lot more than dust, Not to mention flicking bits of grease all over the place.

Been there, done that.

A very bad idea. Chain will become more noisy cause grease will make a weird sound. And next time you try to clean it'll be one hell of a job. So I went for TVS chain lube, works like a charm(I lube once in 1.5~2k), today tried it on my friends Fazer, and the results were outstanding, the chain noise had completely vanished. Though im waiting for a longer ride report.

@Mik

Thank You for that DIY clutch cable adjustment testing.

Really it's worth to learn this kinda things from you.

I did it twice,but am not getting any chain noise by using grease.Maybe because its new?Although I have to clean it more often because of all the dust accumulation.I'm having serious rust problems,hence I did that.How much does the TVS chain lube cost?

Grease a complete NO NO!!...


if i remember correctly the last time i had checked:

1) OKS- around Rs. 185 - 200
2) Diamond - Around Rs. 200 - 250
3) Motul- Rs. 480

Prices may have increased over a period of time and the above prices are for Mumbai only. May vary because of taxes.


Cheers,

Hi Shiv18 and all others

Done the first service. Costed 460 Rs. inculding vat and all. Done chain cleaning and lubing. Will invest on the Motul chain cleaner next time. Just wanted to allow them what they (service guys) want to do this time.

Now the bike has become bit free. Gear shifting is very smooth (not still to perfection). No noise from the chain and now the vehicle starts even faster than the car. Just with a half push. I'm surprised! Didn't know what they have done. Water washing is completely average! There is only one water station there and there are tons of vehicles to wash! I don't think it will ever work out. Whatever, it is India, can't expect more.........

I told them to change the nut of the battery terminal which was rusted and I even told them that I would be paying extra for that part bought but they said they didn't have that part. Hhahah, I knew it before itself that they won't be changing that. I'd like you to assist me to buy that nut and bolt from a hardware shop (Any measurements? please).

About Engine oil, they had only YamaLube 4T with them and they just poured that one. Anyways I'm gonna drain out oil and change the filter at ~1000 K ODO. I will be searching for Motul as you advised.

Few things I want to know about the parts changed. Just want to know it will be if necessary when I change the Engine oil myself.

Element Assy Oil Cleaner 21CE34400000 Rs. 30.93 (This one was written twice, I mean they used this item twice. I didn't understand why they needed this please explain)

Gasket Oil Drain Plug 4LS 9043012227 Rs. Rs. 1.78

Please tell me if I want any of these when I change the Engine oil myself

Thank You