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  • Originally posted by honda_vings View Post
    all i wanted 2 say is yes it is possible
    u need 2 be skilled enough 2 do it
    its nt dat ne1 cud get 0-60 in 5 secs
    people who have developed dat engine has themselves tested their engine performace
    sum 1 who knws d engine well only, cn get d max. juice out of it.
    n its nt like dat only books hv a scope limit , even dis thread hs sum limits or it will b'cum a "how to ride a bike" tution , for e.g. even dis site is limited to bikes only. talking about cars is out of d scope of dis site ! !
    well the fact is.........
    of course finding someone as skilled as pro racers is difficult

    but there are people here who know how to ride
    so i was asking them
    is it possible

    well talking about limits
    giving some info is not exceeding the scope of anything

    book authors write so because additional info may require much more advanced concepts which the reader may not be able to understand at that moment
    i dont think it has any relation in accordance to you meant

    and you are not actually talking those baby things like how to ride

    we are talking about advanced riding techs here

    and 4.67 is talking pure crap my friend
    companies always try to give the best figures

    when their official test riders can score 5 seconds

    u expect those mag riders to get that high

    even the company would laugh at those claims
    Last edited by outworldly maniac; 06-13-2009, 06:27 PM.
    Hope is a good thing ,
    may be the best of things and
    no good thing ever dies .

    Get busy living or get busy dying .

    - The Shawshank Redemption .

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    • Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
      uni owners

      how far do you agree with honda's claims for the 0-60 kmph in 5 seconds

      or is it another typing mistake?
      definately unicorn is capable of doing 0-60 km in 5 sec ...honda is not a company which would do such a big printing mistake for so long

      I have tried few times with my friend having stopwatch in their hands...yes it reaches 60km in 5-6 seconds (cant tell the exact timings in miliseconds)...

      yes somepeople are very good in shifting the gears that make lot of differenece in the intial pickup...
      PROUD 2 BE A
      WING RIDER

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      • Originally posted by puneetsingh View Post
        honda is not a company which would do such a big printing mistake for so long
        then what would you tell about here people claiming that the top speed printed by honda ie, 101 kmph is wrong
        and its actually 111 kmph
        and this so called error is from quite a long time
        Hope is a good thing ,
        may be the best of things and
        no good thing ever dies .

        Get busy living or get busy dying .

        - The Shawshank Redemption .

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        • Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
          well the fact is.........
          of course finding someone as skilled as pro racers is difficult

          but there are people here who know how to ride
          so i was asking them
          is it possible

          well talking about limits
          giving some info is not exceeding the scope of anything

          book authors write so because additional info may require much more advanced concepts which the reader may not be able to understand at that moment
          i dont think it has any relation in accordance to you meant

          and you are not actually talking those baby things like how to ride

          we are talking about advanced riding techs here

          and 4.67 is talking pure crap my friend
          companies always try to give the best figures

          when their official test riders can score 5 seconds

          u expect those mag riders to get that high

          even the company would laugh at those claims
          its sad 2 hear dat u dn't understand dat additional info on 0-60 wud require u 2 hv more concepst of bike riding n dats y i mentioned it as out of scope , so think b4 u speak(write)
          may b d conditions in which d company tested d bike were tougher conditions den d magazine 1nce , bt i think , thinking it dat way is out of scope of ur mind.
          ven i say "how 2 ride" i meant " how to ride so as 2 get 0-60 in 5 secs."
          again out of d scope of ur mind i think so ! !
          neways m nt here to make a new thread on "SCOPE" discussion , n hope u dont want it either , so better keep d thread going on for honda unicorn only
          The Automotive batteries are designed to work best in a typical short start-stop fashion.
          So to increase the life of your automobile battery, blow the horn and flash the pass light in a quick start stop fashion instead of a conitnuous long horn blow or flash light continuous on!!
          And obviously don't stretch the self start far too long.

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          • do whatever/ride whichever possible way shift the gears at redline reduce the time b/w gear changes, crouch but unicorn can never do it in 5secs...
            it will do 5.5 to 6secs...or say if u have a lighter and very good rider(pro) u can put down another 0.1/0.2 secs...

            its clearly printed under standard test conditions...which is always on a roller bench or some sort of that...never trust any company claims make sure that u test and post the figs....

            for eglder cbz claims 0-60 in 5secs which is not even as fast as a uni..

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            • Originally posted by honda_vings View Post
              its sad 2 hear dat u dn't understand dat additional info on 0-60 wud require u 2 hv more concepst of bike riding n dats y i mentioned it as out of scope , so think b4 u speak(write)
              may b d conditions in which d company tested d bike were tougher conditions den d magazine 1nce , bt i think , thinking it dat way is out of scope of ur mind.
              ven i say "how 2 ride" i meant " how to ride so as 2 get 0-60 in 5 secs."
              again out of d scope of ur mind i think so ! !
              neways m nt here to make a new thread on "SCOPE" discussion , n hope u dont want it either , so better keep d thread going on for honda unicorn only
              ok boss
              you know everything .......... me nothing
              forgive this poor chap 4 askin a question n then challenging ur supremacy of mind n knowledge

              i can very well explain that u plainly misunderstood my words coz may be ur high level mind does not permit taking simple things positively
              your words spit arrogance and attitude so i think it will be a waste of time in clearing misunderstanding or justifying myself........
              will be happy to stay aloof ......

              Originally posted by pradeep reddy View Post
              do whatever/ride whichever possible way shift the gears at redline reduce the time b/w gear changes, crouch but unicorn can never do it in 5secs...
              it will do 5.5 to 6secs...or say if u have a lighter and very good rider(pro) u can put down another 0.1/0.2 secs...

              its clearly printed under standard test conditions...which is always on a roller bench or some sort of that...never trust any company claims make sure that u test and post the figs....

              for eglder cbz claims 0-60 in 5secs which is not even as fast as a uni..
              absolutely rite
              n definitely much better conditions then coverindia against wat my intellectual friend said........ tougher conditions....lol
              Hope is a good thing ,
              may be the best of things and
              no good thing ever dies .

              Get busy living or get busy dying .

              - The Shawshank Redemption .

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              • Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                then what would you tell about here people claiming that the top speed printed by honda ie, 101 kmph is wrong
                and its actually 111 kmph
                and this so called error is from quite a long time
                The owner's manual i got with unicorn has following word

                "Improper Loading your motorcycle can affect its stability and handling . Even if your motorcycle is properly loaded ,you should not exceed 103km/h when carrying cargo"

                they didnt mention the top speed of the bike But the safest speed at which you could ride with pillion and carrying cargo...
                so i think printing mistake has been rectified ...

                i know true speed of unicorn is way more than 101km ...infact one of my friend who is having 1st gen unicorn was able to achieve 114.7km on GPS ...i dont know how he did it but he did it..
                PROUD 2 BE A
                WING RIDER

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                • Originally posted by puneetsingh View Post
                  The owner's manual i got with unicorn has following word

                  "Improper Loading your motorcycle can affect its stability and handling . Even if your motorcycle is properly loaded ,you should not exceed 103km/h when carrying cargo"

                  they didnt mention the top speed of the bike But the safest speed at which you could ride with pillion and carrying cargo...
                  so i think printing mistake has been rectified ...

                  i know true speed of unicorn is way more than 101km ...infact one of my friend who is having 1st gen unicorn was able to achieve 114.7km on GPS ...i dont know how he did it but he did it..
                  brother,,,, i dont question that thing......... i was just replying to ur comment saying honda does not keep a print mistake for long

                  and check this out..........
                  Honda

                  after going there......... click on performance
                  Hope is a good thing ,
                  may be the best of things and
                  no good thing ever dies .

                  Get busy living or get busy dying .

                  - The Shawshank Redemption .

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                  • unicorn

                    Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                    brother,,,, i dont question that thing......... i was just replying to ur comment saying honda does not keep a print mistake for long

                    and check this out..........
                    Honda

                    after going there......... click on performance
                    yes you are right their websites hasnt been updated ...i think 1 should inform them they should write the top speed of unicorn not shine in uni performance section...
                    Sometimes big companies like HONDA do make such mistakes for very long period...
                    you didnt mention you take on whether a uni is capable of reaching 0-60km in 5 sec
                    PROUD 2 BE A
                    WING RIDER

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                    • Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                      ok boss
                      you know everything .......... me nothing
                      forgive this poor chap 4 askin a question n then challenging ur supremacy of mind n knowledge

                      i can very well explain that u plainly misunderstood my words coz may be ur high level mind does not permit taking simple things positively
                      your words spit arrogance and attitude so i think it will be a waste of time in clearing misunderstanding or justifying myself........
                      will be happy to stay aloof ......



                      absolutely rite
                      n definitely much better conditions then coverindia against wat my intellectual friend said........ tougher conditions....lol
                      i percieved as if u were trying 2 play wid me
                      so i just reacted as a game only
                      bt its ok nw
                      atleast consider the smileys
                      they all were smiling nt arrogant

                      well 1nce i asked a honda mechanic if unicorn cud do 0-60 in 5 secs , he said he can do it even wid me sitting as a pillion but at dat time my bike was new so i did not gave it a try but during my next service i will confirm dis or even try 2 make a video of it as well to {shut up all ur mouths(dis is arrogance)} uncover d truth(juzz kidding)

                      ve are nt on dis site 2 shw ne kind of arrogance
                      juz help and get helped budds
                      The Automotive batteries are designed to work best in a typical short start-stop fashion.
                      So to increase the life of your automobile battery, blow the horn and flash the pass light in a quick start stop fashion instead of a conitnuous long horn blow or flash light continuous on!!
                      And obviously don't stretch the self start far too long.

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                      • Originally posted by puneetsingh View Post
                        yes you are right their websites hasnt been updated ...i think 1 should inform them they should write the top speed of unicorn not shine in uni performance section...
                        Sometimes big companies like HONDA do make such mistakes for very long period...
                        you didnt mention you take on whether a uni is capable of reaching 0-60km in 5 sec
                        i have been following the website from quite a time now
                        just cause i like uni
                        they just updated the website

                        and i simply dont like shine and stunner ( not fi one )
                        no top end neither engine refinement

                        i think what they mean by top speed there is the highest speed at which it is safe both for the rider and the bike to be ridden
                        not like pulsar 150 whose top speed is quoted so high and the bike starts to wobble crazily at those speeds

                        or otherwise....... as you said........ while updating ,,,, they dont care to update the unicorn data!!

                        my take on the 0-60 in 5 sec.......
                        well if you trust my words........
                        i read somewhere as to how companies test their vehicles and give out those figures.............
                        there are two ways......

                        dont know the perfect terms used......... just giving a generic idea

                        1. the static way :
                        the bike is kept on a roller that moves which is connected to computers......
                        everything controlled by computer softwares and things are simulated or physically added like a load of 60 kg etc.........

                        then all the data is recorded and doled out

                        2. the dynamic way :
                        test riders test the bike in a place where the surface is extremely smooth....... mostly these are indoor places near the factories or somewhere else............

                        bikers test them to check out the experience , balance , comfort , etc
                        this all is done to get a real life experience cause after all computers are computers...........

                        and while doing this.......... again computer speed guns and other things record data............

                        the company also tests the bike in conditions like potholes etc to check again balance and comfort etc
                        again there are two ways........ simulated and actual..........

                        after all this research and calculated things...... companies give out this data keeping in mind both the simulated and the actual things....... i mean a combo of both....... but the top , speed and acceleration some figures are definitely computer data......... otherwise the data would become rider dependent

                        hence after thinking all these things........ i thought ,,,,, it may be possible
                        why not ask unicorn owners....... thats y i came here and asked

                        now how do magazines test bikes?

                        they do it on tracks.............. and they generally have only one rider who rides and tell his experience l,,,, ofcourse there are people to record data and all
                        hence magazine test rides are nowhere near the company ones and they in no possible way reach the figures stated out by the company because of the difference in riding conditions .........
                        and as we all know,,,,,,,,, all companies would always try to give the best and miracuolous data........ ofcourse why would a company understate its bike

                        so they give out the max possible acceleration and top speed..........

                        when even honda after so much research and thinking
                        comment 0-60 in 5 second
                        consider it the best possible........ chalo koi miracle hua and ur a baap rider...... ( saying just for the sake of it ) ....... the figure may get low as 4.9 or 4.95 or so so
                        in no way it can go down to 4.67
                        thats y i said even honda would be shocked to hear that
                        but why would they oppose
                        their product is over praised
                        profitable for them...........

                        and infact......... experienced riders on this forum know how far magazines speak the truth
                        always have praises for all bikes around with figures better than which the company states
                        absolute crap .........
                        infact who knows they might be getting paid for it !!!
                        and as far as things go here...... we know it is very much possible

                        hope i did not bore

                        cheers
                        Last edited by outworldly maniac; 06-14-2009, 12:49 AM.
                        Hope is a good thing ,
                        may be the best of things and
                        no good thing ever dies .

                        Get busy living or get busy dying .

                        - The Shawshank Redemption .

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                        • Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                          i have been following the website from quite a time now
                          just cause i like uni
                          they just updated the website

                          and i simply dont like shine and stunner ( not fi one )
                          no top end neither engine refinement

                          i think what they mean by top speed there is the highest speed at which it is safe both for the rider and the bike to be ridden
                          not like pulsar 150 whose top speed is quoted so high and the bike starts to wobble crazily at those speeds

                          or otherwise....... as you said........ while updating ,,,, they dont care to update the unicorn data!!

                          my take on the 0-60 in 5 sec.......
                          well if you trust my words........
                          i read somewhere as to how companies test their vehicles and give out those figures.............
                          there are two ways......

                          dont know the perfect terms used......... just giving a generic idea

                          1. the static way :
                          the bike is kept on a roller that moves which is connected to computers......
                          everything controlled by computer softwares and things are simulated or physically added like a load of 60 kg etc.........

                          then all the data is recorded and doled out

                          2. the dynamic way :
                          test riders test the bike in a place where the surface is extremely smooth....... mostly these are indoor places near the factories or somewhere else............

                          bikers test them to check out the experience , balance , comfort , etc
                          this all is done to get a real life experience cause after all computers are computers...........

                          and while doing this.......... again computer speed guns and other things record data............

                          the company also tests the bike in conditions like potholes etc to check again balance and comfort etc
                          again there are two ways........ simulated and actual..........

                          after all this research and calculated things...... companies give out this data keeping in mind both the simulated and the actual things....... i mean a combo of both....... but the top , speed and acceleration some figures are definitely computer data......... otherwise the data would become rider dependent

                          hence after thinking all these things........ i thought ,,,,, it may be possible
                          why not ask unicorn owners....... thats y i came here and asked

                          now how do magazines test bikes?

                          they do it on tracks.............. and they generally have only one rider who rides and tell his experience l,,,, ofcourse there are people to record data and all
                          hence magazine test rides are nowhere near the company ones and they in no possible way reach the figures stated out by the company because of the difference in riding conditions .........
                          and as we all know,,,,,,,,, all companies would always try to give the best and miracuolous data........ ofcourse why would a company understate its bike

                          so they give out the max possible acceleration and top speed..........

                          when even honda after so much research and thinking
                          comment 0-60 in 5 second
                          consider it the best possible........ chalo koi miracle hua and ur a baap rider...... ( saying just for the sake of it ) ....... the figure may get low as 4.9 or 4.95 or so so
                          in no way it can go down to 4.67
                          thats y i said even honda would be shocked to hear that
                          but why would they oppose
                          their product is over praised
                          profitable for them...........

                          and infact......... experienced riders on this forum know how far magazines speak the truth
                          always have praises for all bikes around with figures better than which the company states
                          absolute crap .........
                          infact who knows they might be getting paid for it !!!
                          and as far as things go here...... we know it is very much possible

                          hope i did not bore

                          cheers

                          Could ................... u ........................ please .......................... avoid.......................... typing.................. like .................... this?

                          And please make it short and sweet.

                          Thanks.
                          When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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                          • Originally posted by insanebiker View Post
                            Could ................... u ........................ please .......................... avoid.......................... typing.................. like .................... this?

                            And please make it short and sweet.

                            Thanks.
                            you mean to avoid these things " ............ "
                            or something else also

                            edit: and by short what you mean friend ?
                            already i type some things in sms lingo
                            Hope is a good thing ,
                            may be the best of things and
                            no good thing ever dies .

                            Get busy living or get busy dying .

                            - The Shawshank Redemption .

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                            • Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                              you mean to avoid these things " ............ "
                              or something else also

                              edit: and by short what you mean friend ?
                              already i type some things in sms lingo
                              Dude, @InsaneBiker, is asking you to avoid " ............ " in ur posts and also please avoid SMS lingo too.! As people will understand better if things put in the right way!
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                              • Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post
                                Dude, @InsaneBiker, is asking you to avoid " ............ " in ur posts and also please avoid SMS lingo too.! As people will understand better if things put in the right way!
                                i cleared the fact with him thru msg
                                i put " ........ " so that there is a gap between things that should be not considered as one thing.......
                                sms lingo is used only for such words
                                your - ur
                                you - u
                                and - n
                                etc

                                oh and thanks for your suggestions @ dualdisc and insanebiker
                                infact then it would make things long
                                Hope is a good thing ,
                                may be the best of things and
                                no good thing ever dies .

                                Get busy living or get busy dying .

                                - The Shawshank Redemption .

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