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Problem is that I've covered 1000 kms and still hear the sound when I apply brakes. It does not bother me.

The auto shut off problem started before I changed the air filter, not after. 😉

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Going to the ASC tomorrow morning to get the windscreen replaced. I had put a new one last Saturday and noticed smudges which cannot be removed.

One more thing I noticed, if it has been already discussed, apologies. Let me know and I will search more thoroughly.

After the speed of 75-80 I notice a distinct wobbling of the handle bars. Not a lot but quite enough to cause discomfort. At the speed of 50=60 it is not there.
Now, the very same thing happened to my car and wheel balancing/ alignment solved it. It came exactly at 80 KMPH.

CBR Owners and knowledgeable folks. Does this sound like a wheel balancing or a Cone Set issue? ASC would immediately open the cone set and God knows what else and spoil my time and money.

Rest all is fine. Engine vibes and sound is there but I am realizing that a 250 CC single would not behave like a Unicorn

Tomorrow I shall pen down the ASC experience in detail. I live in Goa (Vasco) and I visit Priority Honda - Taligao (Panjim)

Thanks,
Saurab

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Two ways you can make out your coneset is faulty, albeit a little demanding physically since there is no side stand. First one is to check if there is slack in the front end. Usually with center stand equipped bikes, people stop the bike in center stand, ask someone to press the rear so the front is raised, now standing in front of the bike, hold both the fork legs by your hand and push and pull front and back, there shouldn't be any movement, none whatsoever. If you see the entire front end clicking and locking or having movement, it's time for your coneset replacement.

Second, keep the bike the same as it is, someone pressing the bike on the rear (so the front wheel is not touching the ground) rotate your handlebars left and right, the movement should be smooth, full swing left and full swing right. If you see there is any hindrance or a high/low spot, grabbing or tight spot when you are turning the bars either side, yes your coneset has to be replaced.

Another method is dynamic tire balancing and as Aman earlier explained, the front wheels/tire are required to dynamically balanced with correct weights. Even something as simple as loose/tight T stem can cause a wobble, which can be adjusted by tightening/loosening the lock nut.

Hope we haven't confused you. Start with the basics, use the above methods to confirm.

Cheers!
VJ

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Thanks @B7ACKTHORN,

No you have not confused me. Will work on your diagnostic tips.
Do the Car wheel balancing shops balance motorcycle wheels also? With the dist and ABS, would prefer someone who knows about the work being executed.

Will try the tips while sitting on the bike tonight and ask the ASC guys to do the same.

EDIT: After dinner went down and sat on the bike. Engaged the front brake and pushed the handle down hard. After repeating this for a few times could identify and small "Khat - khat". Could feel it on the palms, nothing audible. So it is something to be replaced or tightened in the handle area.

Am relieved. Because no one in Goa does two wheeler rim balancing and purchasing a new front rim/ tire (Rs. 3000/ 2500 ?) is not I am looking forward to right now.

Hope this solves the issue.

Also I had the Carbon design sticker done on the tank. The custom shape looks great, but the job is done shabbily. Plan to remove it, clean it and go with a regular Tank-pad. Wanted to hide a scratch at 11'o clock position (from the tank base/ crotch area) but will live with it - Nazar nahi lagegi as someone said around page 1030-1050

Pics will be uploaded this Sunday after a chotu sa photo shoot. Am immensely enjoying the ride quality and power/ torque delivery now that I have un-learned the TBTS 500 style of riding and learnt to rev up to 5K RPMS.

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Exhaust, yes a faint khat, khat from the coneset or a small jerky feel on the hand as you've right pointed is how feels. First try the locknut loose/tightening method and hope it solves the issue, if it doesn't then coneset.

One word of caution, the reason why I mentioned holding the forks is because you can get an even more so called feel of any foul movement of the forks. What happens when you engage the brake and press the bike back and forth is the brake pads have a slight play in them, so when the front brake pads move inside their caliper whole grabbing the rotor, they sound like "kirk kirk" (forgive the jugaad terminology so that shouldn't be confused with conset or T stem.

If you can live with very slight wobble or pulling to the right/left, nothing to worry (individual preference) but nopes, you need not change your rim/tire unless they are bent/worn. It's a waste of money. Keep us posted.


Cheers!
VJ

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It is a serious challenge to express the different sounds and feelings we experience on the bike (any automobile). We try our best and at times, end up with a blank mind too

Two point post. The problem at hand and the ASC experience.

Problem at hand
The cone set bearing was changed. I saw the one removed and the ball-bearings were quite worn. Thanks to the coastal air. All brown and gooey. Post that the handle is so much more free, a pleasure. Coming from a RE I was quite happy with the original steering feel, but now it is awesome - Honda Quality. And then the technician said something which was an eye opener - "Sir, now the bike will not try to run outside while cornering" (Abhi turns per bike bahar nahi niklega). And then I realized, I was not as bad a rider I used to consider myself! Post the corrections, riding confidence has increased multi-fold and curves have become a welcome delight. Can enjoy the PSD at the rear nicely now. Earlier the bike had the tendency to want to force a straight line at curves and I used to hug the outer edge or slow down. I "assumed" it was a normal behavior with the talk about wheel base and all in my mind.

But, there is always a but, there is still that wobbling at 76-82 Kmph range, but minimal. May be due to rim or tire. But can live with it. Now my usual comfort speed has reached 90s, up from 70s (with wife, in tour mode) and in traffic, I say around 50-60 (5th gear) to ensure others' mistake does not cost me, and hence it is OK. Note: Goa traffic is thin, but most riders/ drivers are thick!!!

The air pressure was less in the front, but that was within normal range, not anticipating any leaks.

Overall, after acquiring the bike I am now ready to settle down to ride her and accept the regular ownership maintenance. A big shout to all the folks here for helping and making me feel included.

ASC Experience
Priority Honda - Taligao, Panjim. For the Goa guys or folks riding to Goa, one word - Excellent.

I was quoted around 1.2K for the parts and 350 for labour for the estimate regarding the wobbling. I also complained for the khass khass sound and some vibes at 6K RPM at the foot-pegs. I said, this should have been done last time and I wont pay for the labor. The guy (Ali) said sir, talk to the manager.

By this time, they agreed to change my windscreen without even hinting once whether I might have caused the damage (it's been a week). They also had retained my original screen as requested.

Well, I spoke to the Manager, Ravi, a CBR rider himself. and he just said, sir, anything for you, I will also discount the parts.Had a nice long chat regarding work ethics and all and he invited me to the CBR bay to have a look at the progress. In Goa, CBR work is not done in less than a day and no urgent requests are entertained. These guys saw me waiting and delivered me the bike at 2 (reporting at 11) by delaying their lunch.

There are multiple mechanics who are well versed to the bike. Not all are formally trained but they seem to have learnt in-house but are not the quack types. After everything was done, I casually mentioned that the left some of the speedo panel does not light up. (the part showing fuel and time). Expected standard response, this is not fixable. BBut the dude reopened the whole front, opened the speedo and checked for loose connections. Could not fix it. Told me "This cannot be done here as we do not know soldering. I will show you how to open this section of the bike, find a music system mechanic (no TV/ Radio mechanics any more...lol) and get it done. I will whatsapp you the LED type". Was I impressed??

Took 2 test runs, tightened a few things. Apologized for the lack of fresh clips and used other compatible ones. The Manager walks in a says, bro no screen in stock, give me your address, I will send someone next week to fix it at your place. Use the current one till then, do not worry for scratches, this will anyways go back to the factory. Luckily, an employee was coming back from another dealer, and he got me a fresh one from there.

Overall an experience at par with expectation of Honda and CBR250RA. Exchanged numbers. Got a promise to help on phone any time any day if I am out of Goa. And offered a 1200 Rs. Road side assistance + 3 Free Service (labour) and 4 washes, for a year. I was ready, he says - Take it when u come for next servicing so that your time starts at the latest possible date.

Total cost 1324.00 with Taxes. Work done was much more than that.

The service adviser (Krupesh) always responds to my call and whatsapp to help me out with small questions and doubts, being new to the bike.
These guys also believes in try to repair/ set before replacing. They did that with me too. Last time for the major servicing, they refused to change the brake pads since they felt those were fresh. Also, a few parts not available was procured from other dealers about 15KM away.

Pics tomorrow!

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Glad things are working out your way Exhaust. If service center experience throughout India were only a dime of what you've experienced, it would redefine service center experiences for each and every motorcyclist. Unfortunately things don't work out the way everywhere, on a positive note, keep up the good rapport with the service center mechanics, goes a long way, personal experience.

Cheers!
VJ

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Someone complained of wobbling recently. I experienced something like that recently while leaning and on uneven paths. Actually, I did some rear suspension adjustment from standard setting to 1 (towards softer position) and rode for few days. I weigh 90+ Kg and hence this setting was definitely not good for me. I felt little wobbliness while cornering and on uneven roads. I did adjust the suspension again and this time towards harder side at 4th. There is absolutely no wobbling at all at any speed... I thought to share this as it may be of any help to those guys who reported wobbling issue recently.
(Note: My bike doesn't have any alignment issue)

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Yes, I've experienced similar effects after changing the suspension setting. However due to a bad back, I have the setting at 1, softest.

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Ah! Me too got the rear suspension set to Softest - 1. May be the very slight wobbling I feel now is due to that.

Last night, the steering minute KHATT returned on sharp (and small) speed-breakers. I guess got to get a nut or so tightened.

Enjoying the bike as of now. Will try the rear suspension idea.

Edit: Pics

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I've started a page for CBR 250R owners on FB. Please do visit the page, like share & post. Here's the link

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Saw a red bike yesterday with akrapovic installed here in bangalore.. Anyone from here??

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Was it the pre 2013 model without black alloys (bike wasn't red originally)? If yes, then it *may* belong to new BEL road. Not an xBhpian that fellow.

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To All The Owner Of CBR250R...

Please Advise On The Problem I'm Facing.

Check The Picture Below.

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Water leakage. Check this video on how to fix it. https://youtu.be/KNWTidkxcmQ