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With due respects, PSR Ji - There's none for C250R as confirmed to me by HMSI official as well as my knowledge on going through the owner's manual thrice; may be, the present lot of C250R's have it.Originally posted by psr View PostSkill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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No owner's manual esp., Fi one will ever give you these details.It will be on the throttle body and will adjust the bypass air volume for idling.Originally posted by aargee View PostWith due respects, PSR Ji - There's none for C250R as confirmed to me by HMSI official as well as my knowledge on going through the owner's manual thrice; may be, the present lot of C250R's have it.When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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PSR Ji & others - Please do not trust me; I've no knowledge on C250R!!!
Idle adjustment - Honda CBR250R Forum : Honda CBR 250 ForumsSkill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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I'll take a through look into it again when am home. Will ensure I take care that the screw is not broken.Originally posted by psr View PostIf the adjustment screw doesn't budge it could be because of a LOCK NUT on it which is tightened to retain the setting...Locate the lock nut on the screw ,loosen it and then try adjusting it..otherwise you will break the screw head.
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Neither do I have much knowledge.....merely trying to help,based on past experience..As the actual owner you are at a better advantage to explore the bike and find it out..Originally posted by aargee View PostPSR Ji & others - Please do not trust me; I've no knowledge on C250R!!!
Idle adjustment - Honda CBR250R Forum : Honda CBR 250 ForumsWhen Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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On a hunch, I spoke to the C250R technician seconds ago & he confirmed...
CBR250R does not have idling screw; its quite unlike R15 & the throttle body is electronically controlled.
This is for Metal_Maniac too from one of his previous post - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/627469-post.htmlSkill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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Thanks for the effort and the info.Originally posted by aargee View PostOn a hunch, I spoke to the C250R technician seconds ago & he confirmed...
CBR250R does not have idling screw; its quite unlike R15 & the throttle body is electronically controlled.
This is for Metal_Maniac too from one of his previous post - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/627469-post.html
Kindly post a pic of the said screw,for us to determine if it is the Idle adjust screw,since the SVC Mech themselves have clarified it's absence.Originally posted by rmchhetri View PostI'll take a through look into it again when am home. Will ensure I take care that the screw is not broken.
My worry is you should not end up turning any other adjustment and end up with broken or wrong setting which will ruin your otherwise good CBR
Kindly read Mr.Aargee's clarification above on thisWhen Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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Ji...no need to Thank me, I did nothing compared to what you've been teaching me & all others hereOriginally posted by psr View PostThanks for the effort and the info
I remember saying this long time back somewhere in the post, may be else where. Reason being that, I'm under the impression that closed loops DO NOT have idle screw adjustments.
If I'm not wrong, R15, P220 Fi, ZMA, RTR 160 Fi should all be open loop systems.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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Yes, you are right about R15 being open loop. It is actually a cheaper version compared to closed loop. R15 lacks an exhaust sensor, however it makes up for that by having a map sensor.Originally posted by aargee View PostIf I'm not wrong, R15, P220 Fi, ZMA, RTR 160 Fi should all be open loop systems.Quench my thirst with gasoline!
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You were Good enough to share an important info and so thanks for it..Originally posted by aargee View PostJi...no need to Thank me, I did nothing compared to what you've been teaching me & all others here
I remember saying this long time back somewhere in the post, may be else where. Reason being that, I'm under the impression that closed loops DO NOT have idle screw adjustments.
If I'm not wrong, R15, P220 Fi, ZMA, RTR 160 Fi should all be open loop systems.
The R15, Pulsar 220i,and RTR are all without the Oxygen sensor in Exhaust,and so open loop ECU which works by reading the resident ROM data. The ZMR,CBR and Ninja 250 all have Oxygen sensor and are closed loop,ECU which learn and adjust required parameters as they work.
Here is a useful link..
2011 Honda CBR250R THROTTLE BODY Genuine OEM Motorcycle Parts | MotoSportWhen Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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Ji, then one important question...
Does ZMR have idle adjustment screw?Originally posted by psr View PostThe ZMR,CBR and Ninja 250...parameters as they work.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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Ji few more important updates...
- Went in for second 1st service today
; once again 10W-30 wasn't in stock & they changed 20W-40 Honda Genuine engine oil; I asked them to change the engine oil filter despite they showed me that the filter is good. I noticed some paint marks though!!!
- Outside the workshop there're posters indicating fully synthetic oil to be used with C250R; obviously these people didn't carry them; blamed HMSI
- Coolant level checked & it was fine
- No additional noise from engine
Here's the interesting part - I was told that my head cover was slightly damaged during the transit of the new engine & HMSI has sent for a replacement for the head cover. They said it takes a day to get it fixed & asked to bring it on Tuesday. I'm paranoid to touch something that is working fine. But its quite surprising how HMSI found that the head cover is damaged. Had the ASC not told me, I would've not known it either. What's your take?
Guys - How're you gear shifts? Mine is smooth & easy, but, I hear a loud Khad sound when I shift, not with 1st gear, but mostly with shifting down. Anyone???Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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Only Idle air Control Valve.Originally posted by aargee View PostJi, then one important question...
Does ZMR have idle adjustment screw?
Good you checked and changed to 20w40 WITH OIL FILTER...and also the coolant level.Synthetic oil cannot be used on NEW engines which are not used and set in.Originally posted by aargee View PostJi few more important updates...
- Went in for second 1st service today
; once again 10W-30 wasn't in stock & they changed 20W-40 Honda Genuine engine oil; I asked them to change the engine oil filter despite they showed me that the filter is good. I noticed some paint marks though!!!
- Outside the workshop there're posters indicating fully synthetic oil to be used with C250R; obviously these people didn't carry them; blamed HMSI
- Coolant level checked & it was fine
- No additional noise from engine
Here's the interesting part - I was told that my head cover was slightly damaged during the transit of the new engine & HMSI has sent for a replacement for the head cover. They said it takes a day to get it fixed & asked to bring it on Tuesday. I'm paranoid to touch something that is working fine. But its quite surprising how HMSI found that the head cover is damaged. Had the ASC not told me, I would've not known it either. What's your take?
Guys - How're you gear shifts? Mine is smooth & easy, but, I hear a loud Khad sound when I shift, not with 1st gear, but mostly with shifting down. Anyone???
How bad is the head cover damage, have you seen it ? In any case it is the cover on top of head,and comes right under the Petrol tank. If the damage is not bad,and not likely to leak oil in future, you can ignore it.
If you have to change it then , the fairing, petrol tank etc., have to be removed and refitted, ,and the New one put back WITH NEW GASKET...One full day must be sacrificed...
If the damage is a Dent of 2mm or so, then best to ignore...if more better to get it changed.
Just my thought.When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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Oh!!! right; but it still serves the purpose to idle the engine RPM right?Originally posted by psr View PostOnly Idle air Control Valve
I don't know what to say!!! I was having the same thoughts in mind & was confused; now you just said exactly what was on my mind. Now I'm in double dilemma, should I or shouldn't I? May be remove the fairing & check? And what could be the impact? Till date I haven't experienced anything & its like more than month since the new engine is in place & 1050+ Kms covered.Originally posted by psr View PostHow bad is the head...if more better to get it changed.
And yes, the new head cover comes with the rubber gasket.
Ji, so when would it be ideal to use fully synthetic? I thought we could switch to fully synthetic ASAP after 1st service isn't it so?Originally posted by psr View PostSynthetic oil cannot be used on NEW engines which are not used and set in.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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