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**dreamseller** · 05-04-2012, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by r13nick View Post

mine always give between 29-31km/ltr
how much does the rvm cost . . ?

If you have the soft copy of the service manual, you can check the prices from the scan copy of my bill a few pages back. As far as I remember, it was probably around 300 or so.

**aargee** · 05-04-2012, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by psr View Post

2. I do know from the experience shared by a Senior and technically competent member here, that using FS in young engines , less than 5 to 6 k Kms ,does lead to excessive oil consumption

That was 20W50 Sir

**vkavadia** · 05-04-2012, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by aman15 View Post

hey guys having footpeg vibrations again.. Its only in 4th gear between 4.5k to 5k rpm... I was searching the internet for this .. I did find something but it was for some other bike of honda 954 i guess.. It was written that it might be related to chain or gear issue then it clicked in my mind that few days back i had given my bike for lubing and yes the problem started after that only .. Before lubing i had covered around 2k kms and there wasnt any issue but after lubing the vibration was there ... What do u think guys is it becoz of this ??

Just my 2 cents: I experience vibes on my 220 if the chain has been tightened too much.. You say you gave the bike for lubing maybe they tightened the chain too.. Might wanna check with them..

**amandeepkamboj19** · 05-04-2012, 12:38 PM

Guys going for first service

I asked SVC people if they have FS oil or not
But they do not have it yet

please tell me should I go for mineral oil or not.
Will I feel some difference in FS or mineral oil in terms of smoothness?
Does mineral oil lasts for 6000 km?

Also my bike has clocked 800 on odo and have started feeling roughness.

Please do tell me your experience of both oil

What precaution should I take during first service

Apart from oil and filter change, Chain lube, coolant top up
What else is to be done?

**psr** · 05-04-2012, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

That was 20W50 Sir

Yes ,...and the shocking point is that it was thicker than the recommended grade and so not likely to have problem of excess oil consumption....except the fact it is FS, which I think made the difference.

**aargee** · 05-04-2012, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Yes ,...and the shocking point is that it was thicker than the recommended grade and so not likely to have problem of excess oil consumption....except the fact it is FS, which I think made the difference.

Sir, there's lots of things that was discussed with HMSI on the engine oil grade; HMSI feels 10W30 is more than sufficient as they say they've thoroughly tested their engine not getting heated beyond 93 degree with the same 10W30 engine oil.

What about the newer CBR engines that comes with 10W30 FS right from day one right out of factory?

PS - I heard HMSI is dispatching Unicorns right out of factory with 10W30, not sure how far this is true

**psr** · 05-04-2012, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Sir, there's lots of things that was discussed with HMSI on the engine oil grade; HMSI feels 10W30 is more than sufficient as they say they've thoroughly tested their engine not getting heated beyond 93 degree with the same 10W30 engine oil.

What about the newer CBR engines that comes with 10W30 FS right from day one right out of factory?

PS - I heard HMSI is dispatching Unicorns right out of factory with 10W30, not sure how far this is true

All Hero Honda bikes have switched to 10w30(they still don't have logical explanation for this)...and Honda is also doing the same.10w30 lets the engine Rev faster , and in a LC engine the cooling job,and heat stress, is much less for the engine oil, but in a Air cooled engine the engine oil has greater heat stress ...still 93 C is a stressful temperature for an engine oil. 85 C is a more amiable temperature when the oil property is more likely to remain constant, esp., under repeated heating and cooling stress.
I am not too sure about the new engines having FS oil..Unless the manufacturing tolerance have been highly upgraded ,since FS cannot be used in new engines, and it will also delay the setting in of the engine parts to a great extent.

**aargee** · 05-04-2012, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

All Hero Honda bikes...setting in of the engine parts to a great extent.

I don't know about HMC as I haven't spoken to any of them; so what I'm saying applies only for HMSI.

93 MAY be stress tested, so what you're saying about amiable temp may or may not be applicable. But for sure, I did a gruesome ride 3 weeks ago (you know it) for several hours & the temp bars didn't raise beyond 3 for over 750+ Kms under hot Sun.

I've been repeatedly asking the same question, but they keep assuring the engine oil is good & superior. Also what surprises me is that 10W30 is not a standard across any leading manufacturer; there's virtually no 30; either its 40 or 50; I don't know how to put across the question more to them

**amandeepkamboj19** · 05-04-2012, 01:19 PM