First service is at 1K or 45 days... from next service onwards it is 5k

in updated manuals its 6k,i.e 5k after 1st service that makes odo 6k and so on.

help!

being new to xbhp i would really appreciate some help.reguarding posting and replying....playing with quotes etc...
i just tried quoting and replying and a menu opened involving several options ...few i figured out myself....but still im facing a lil problem....

ohh and i am about to buy duke...took a test ride days ago.. im following this thread since a couple of months and iys good to see ppl sharing and dusscussing stuff as it helps a lot ppl whi r about to buy a new ride for them....

cheers!! duke owners...ill own one soon..

what he meant by 5k was the interval and not the odo reading... So first service at 1k, then a gap of 5k which means 6k on the odo

thread going OT..

guys..the duke ownership thread was one of the better ownership threads..
really sad to see it going bad..
moderators..i kindly request on behalf of other duke owners to clean up the thread...cheerss..

thanks dude...

Updated 29th July

The cost of the Engine oil,coolant and chain lube mentioned below is the maximum retail price.You can expect to get about 15 % discount on it.The cost of the KTM spare parts will vary from time to time.

Engine Oil:

Motul 7100 20W50 - 1 liter= Rs 725
Bajaj DTS-i 10,000 - 1 liter = Rs 414
Motul 300V Factory Line - 1 liter = Rs 985

Coolant:

Motul Motocool Expert - 1 liter = Rs 450
Catrol Radicool - 1 liter = Rs 228
Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant - 1.89 liters = Rs 1300

Chain lube:

Motul Chain Lube Road - 400 ml = Rs 510
Motul Chain Clean - 400 ml= Rs 480
OKS chain lube spray - 100 ml = Rs 140

KTM Spare parts:

Oil filter: RS 65
Fuel filter: Rs 85
Air filter: Rs 238
Spark plug: Rs 174
Battery: Rs 1852
Mirror : Rs 225
Front fender : Rs 613
Handle bar : Rs 765
Sensor roll over : Rs 198
Radiator assembly : Rs 4359
Radiator fan : Rs 1339
Radiator protector right side : Rs 72
Radiator protector left side : Rs 72
KTM Fuel tank : Rs 1611
KTM fuel tank cover : Rs 1020
Swingarm : Rs 6375
Rear mono shock : Rs 3971
Clutch Cable : Rs 239.21
Accelerator Cable : Rs 104
Brake Pad Front : Rs 208
Brake Pad Rear : Rs 178
Lever front brake : Rs 109
Lever and Sup holder assembly : Rs 288
Lever break : Rs 234
Rear break reservoir : Rs 25
Belly pan - Rs 541 Belly pan sticker per side: Rs 142
Number plate front : Rs 22
Grip assembly RH : Rs 151
Leg assembly right side : Rs 8350
Leg assemble left side : Rs 8871
Single Indicator: Rs 560
Set of 4 indicators : Rs 1800
Holder Step RH (Right Foot Peg) : RS 132
Assembly Main Step (whole Bracket) : Rs 534
Fairing under cover (head Light Mask bracket) : Rs 194
Coolant Solvent top-up only : Rs 35
Digital Meter : Rs 6000
Dashboard : Rs 101
Right Foot lever Brake (Rh foot lever) :Rs 209
Leg Guard Rh (right Leg Guard) : Rs 120 (Pair Rs 240)
Chain slider: Rs 151
Rear tyre : Rs 3823


KTM Powerparts and power wear:

KTM Tank pad : Rs 1450
KTM front crash pad : Rs 2180
KTM rim sticker : Rs 1270
KTM tank-cap sticker : Rs 1820
KTM Vented Jacket : Rs 14890
KTM radical gloves large : Rs 5270
KTM bike cover : Rs 720
KTM cap : Rs 500
KTM round neck T-shirt : Rs 660
KTM polo T-shirt : Rs 680
KTM hand guard : RS 5800

Crash protectors:

Indimotard KTM Duke 200 bar end sliders : Rs 750
Indimotard KTM Duke 200 crash guard : Rs 5250
Indimotard KTM Duke 200 exhaust: Rs 8000
R&G Racing Tail Tidy - Rs.6000
R&G cotton Reel - Rs.3000
R&G Racing Fork protector - Rs.3200
R&G Racing Radiator guard - Rs.4000

Where can I buy it from ?

Motul products:
http://www.motulindia.info/social/fb/demo/
(or)


Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant:
http://www.themotoshop.in/

The Motoshop
55, Maulana Azaad road, (Duncan Road),
Nagpada, Next to Cafe Sagar,
Mumbai - 400 008.
Phone : + 91 22 65 90 91 92 / + 91 22 2301 92 92 / + 91 22 2301 92 93
Fax : +91 22 2305 11 77
[email protected]
[email protected]

R&G Racing products:
http://www.performanceracing.in/

Performance Racing
Shop No. 7 / 8, Ground Floor,
Adam Mahal, 143 - 147,
Tardeo Road
400034, India
Tel: 00 91 22 65879696
Fax: 00 91 22 23526038
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

IndiMotard products:
http://www.indimotard.com/

indiMotard Adventures
#40J, 1st Main, 1st Cross, 2nd Phase
Doddenekundi Industrial Area
Mahadevapura Post
Bangalore - 560040, India
Tel: +91-9448494080
[email protected]
[email protected]

Horn:
Hella -
http://www.hella.co.in/helladistilocator/
Roots -
http://www.rootsindia.com/html/network_ril.html

Tyre puncture sealant:
Tyre-protector sealant - Rs 2360 for both tyres of a Duke 200
http://www.tyre-protector.in/contact-tyre-protector
Ride-on puncture sealant -

What you should know about the Duke 200...my 2 cents.Updated 29th July

1. What should I keep in mind during the initial 1000 KM (run-in period) ?

There are generally three different methods of breaking in a new bike:
1. Breaking it in gently, babying it. Easy does it.
2. Breaking it in Roughly, revving the heck out of it - ride it like you stole it philosophy.Duke is a real hooligan, Slam, bam, thank you ma'am.
3. Break-in as per the Manufacturers Manual recommendations.

I will go with the third method anyday.This is going to seem long and would require a lot of self control but I promise it will be worth it !

A. Allow the engine to idle for 3 minuets before starting to ride and after getting off the bike.
B. Strictly do not exceed 7500 RPM and do not run constantly at too low RPM either.
C. Ride with a varying RPM all the time while shifting the gears as and when required to allow the gear box to break-in.
D. Do not open full throttle.Accelerate and decelerate the speed gradually and in a uniform manner.
E. Do not take it for a long distance highway rides,at constant speed and attempt to clock the initial 1000Km over a weekend.A short 30 minuets ride and then allowing the bike to cool down would be great.
F. Use both the brakes and use them gently.Do not apply the brakes hard.
G. It will take 200 Km for the tires to break-in to provide optimum road grip.Drive with caution during those initial 200 KM as the tires will tend to be slippery and is perfectly normal with any new tire.
H. Fools might invite you for a race, dont fall for it.
I. Read carefully through the rest of this document.

Other reference:
New Engine Break-in Procedure
How to break in a new engine
Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

2. What petrol can be used ?

The owners manual says to use Super unleaded RON 91 petrol.All fuel available in India have a RON 91 rating except for Bharath Petroleum Speed 93 and Speed 97 which have a RON rating of 93 and 97 respectively.The difference is in the type additives added.Premium petrol is not mandatory for the Duke but advisable.I prefer to use Shell Super Unleaded or fill at the same busy COCO (Company Owned Company Operated) petrol station.

Some other facts:

RON – Research Octane Number; is a measure of the resistance of gasoline and other fuels to detonation (engine knocking) in spark-ignition internal combustion engines. High-performance
engines typically have higher compression ratios and are therefore more prone to detonation, so they require higher octane fuel.

A. A lower-performance engine will not generally perform better with high-octane fuel, since the compression ratio is fixed by the engine design.
B. Higher RON levels does not produce more power – it’s only safer.
C. RON ratings are not quality ratings.
D. If your bike only requires RON 91, higher RON petrol rating is only a waste of your money!

3. What you should know before heading towards a petrol station for re-fueling.
(or)
The petrol overflows after doing a full tank topup and leaves behind a strong petrol smell - Refer point 3 D.

A. The total fuel tank capacity is 10.5 liters out of which 1.5 liter is the fuel reserve capacity.
B .Each bar on the fuel indicator, approximately equals to one liter.
C. A 'Low fuel level' warning would appear on the info display if the fuel level reaches the reserve mark.You need to be heading straight to the nearest petrol station when you see this warning.
D. Do not fill petrol up to the brim (full tank) as this would cause the fuel to overflow usually when tilted towards the side or when running over a pothole/speed breaker,leaving behind a strong petrol smell.
E. To ensure that the fuel indication on the display by the fuel sensor is accurate follow the steps below
- Turn off the bike.
- Shake the bike towards either side.You might be able to hear the fuel splashing inside the tank.
- Hold the bike upright.
- Turn on the key and wait for a few seconds.

4. What you should know about the engine coolant (also known as anti-freeze).
(or)
Floresent green colour coolant is leaking - Refer point 4 E,4 H,4 I

A. The owners manual recommends Castrol RadiCool Heavyduty coolant (premixed).
B. Castrol RadiCool is a glycol based premixed coolant which can be directly pored into the coolant reservoir unlike other concentrated coolants.When your coolant level is low, DO NOT ADD WATER into the coolant reservoir or dilute the Castrol RadiCool as it will reduce the glycol and corrosion inhibitor concentration and accordingly reduce the protection provided,increasing the risk of damage to your cooling system and engine.
C. Motul Motocool Expert Coolant (premixed) can also be used.
D. Never mix two different coolants because of the possible incompatibility.
E. In case the coolant is dripping/leaking or spills, wash off with water immediately, do not simply wipe off with a cloth.
F. For maximum system protection, replace (complete drain out and refill) Castrol RadiCool at least every three years or 60,000 km.
G. Never remove the radiator cap,radiator hoses or other cooling system components when the engine is hot.
H. Check the coolant level when the bike is upright and not when it is resting on its side stand.
I. The coolant level must be between MIN and MAX mark.If the coolant level is at or above the MAX level,the coolant will overflow from the radiator house usually after the engine becomes warm.
J. How to flush your Coolant



5. What you should know about the engine oil.
(or)
Can I switch over to a fully Synthetic oil during the first service ? - Refer point 5 A,5 B,5 C

A. The recommended engine oil is Bajaj DTS-i 10,000 or Motul 7100 20W50.
B. Motul 300v Factory line double ester 15W50, though not recommended my the manufacturer would be more suitable if you live in a place which has a generally cool climate throughout the year.
C. The stock engine oil,Bajaj DTS-i 10,000 is a semi synthetic oil.It is usually recommended to change to fully synthetic oil (like the Motul 7100/Motul 300V) at 5000KM.However,people who
had changed to fully synthetic oil during their first service (1000 Km) had only good things to say.
D. The specification of the engine oil to be used is SAE 20W50 API SG/SL JASO MA,MA1.
E. The engine oil capacity is 1.4 liters.
F. The engine oil level must be between the lower and upper edge of the oil level viewer window when the motorcycle is held upright on a horizontal surface.
G. Replacing the oil filter every time the oil is changed is highly recommended.
H. Like the engine coolant,never mix two different engine oil.
I. Cold engine oil will not drain properly, so before you start changing the engine oil, drive your bike around to raise the oil temperature to bring it to normal operating temperature.Then switch off the engine and remove the oil drain plug.Be prepared for the potentially hot flow of oil as you unscrew the drain plug.
J. Never use a engine oil meant for a car on a motorcycle.
K. Be aware that there are fake engine oil out there.Always buy from a authorized distributor.

Some other facts:

Below is the break down of the engine oil specifications as recommended by KTM
SAE 20W50 API SG/SL JASO MA,MA1

SAE - It stands for Society of Automotive Engineers.They have created a standard for identifying the viscosity characteristics of engine oil and have a reading such as 2oW-50,15W-50 ..etc

20W-50 - The number 20 before the 'W'(W = Winter) indicates the low temperature viscosity properties while the 50 indicator of the high temperature or operating viscosity properties.Lesser the value of the number before the W would mean thinner or less viscous the oil would be and is recommended for places that have cold climate almost throughout the year.

API – American Petroleum Institute

SG/SL - The 'S' as in SG/SL is meant is a motorcycle with petrol engine.SG and SL are standards as per API.

JASO – The Japanese Automotive Standards Organization.

MA,MA1 – Grade for Wet Clutch type vehicles.MA,MA1 or MA2 means you are guaranteed that the clutch won't slip.JASO split their JASO-MA standard into JASO-MA1 and JASO-MA2. MA1 is the follow on for bikes that call for JASO-MA oils.The 'M' and 'A' as in MA stand for -
M - Motorcycle Application,A - For engines which share their oils with clutch.

As KTM has specified a API rating of SG/SL and a JASO rating of MA,MA1 ,use only motor oils that satisfy both of the standards listed (the packaging for the oil will carry symbols for both if it meets both standards). Do not use an oil that only meets one standard but not the other.

6. What you should know about the brake fluid.
(or)
I hear a squealing noise from the brake. - Refer point 6 H

A. The recommended brake fluid specification on the owners manual is DOT4 or DOT 5.1
B. The brake fluid can be topped up just like the engine coolant.
C. Never mix two different grades of brake fluid or different brands of brake fluids.
D. DOT 5 brake fluid should strictly not be used on the Duke.
E. The brake fluid level should always be above the MIN mark for front and rear brake.The brakes may not function if it goes below the MIN mark.
F. The front and rear brake fluid needs to be changed during the third service.
G. Clean up overflowed or spilt brake fluid immediately with water.They will cause damage to the paint job.
H. Use the brakes gently until 1000 Km to let the brake pads to bedin properly.You may notice a squealing noise caused due to this is and is perfectly normal.

Some other facts::

- DOT - Department of Transportation..
- DOT 3, DOT 4 and DOT 5.1 are glycol-based brake fluids, DOT 5 is a silicone-based brake fluid.The different DOT categories refer to the different boiling points of the fluids.Higher the number,higher would be the boiling point.

7. What should be the tire and the tire pressure ?
(or)
My new tire feels slippery around the corners - Refer point 7 A

A.It will take 200 Km for the tires to break-in to provide optimum road grip.Drive with caution during those initial 200 KM as the tires will tend to be slippery and is perfectly normal with any new tire.
B.Poorly inflated tires can be a safety threat and degrade the handling of the bike.This would also cause low mileage,abnormal wear and overheating of the tire eventually reducing the service life of the tire.
C.Do not attempt a burn out,it can severely damage the tyre and cause poor control.You can watch all that on youtube.com.
D.Some owner manuals may indicate the wrong tire pressure.The correct tire pressure is printed on the swingarm

Only rider -
Front: 25 Psi
Rear : 28.5 Psi

Rider + Pillion-
Front: 25 Psi
Rear : 32 Pst

8.What is the tire size specification?

The stock tires MRF revz FC for the front and MRF revz C for the rear.
Front tire size : 110/70 R17 54S
Rear tire size : 150/60 R17 66S

Some other facts::

Below is the breakdown of the tyre size specifications

Rear :150/60 R17 66S

150 -is the width of the tyre in millimeters.
60 -is the aspect ratio or tyre profile.In other words it means,height of the tire is 60 percent of the width of the tire
R -means it is radial construction.
17 -is the diameter of the wheel rim in inches.
66 -is the load index.It is the amount of weight the tire can support when properly inflated.
S -Speed rating of S would mean it can withstand a maximum speed of 180 KM/h.

Front:110/70 R17 54S

110 -is the width of the tyre in millimeters.
70 -is the aspect ratio or tyre profile.In other words it means,height of the tire is 70 percent of the width of the tire
R -means it is radial construction.
17 -is the diameter of the wheel rim in inches.
54 -is the load index.It is the amount of weight the tire can support when properly inflated.
S -Speed rating of S would mean it can withstand a maximum speed of 180 KM/h.


9. How to wash the Duke and keep it shinning ?
(or)
The digital console shows warning light just after a water wash - Refer 9 A, 9 D.

A. As mentioned in the owners manual ''Never clean the vehicle with high pressure cleaning equipment or a strong water-jet.The excessive pressure can penetrate electrical components,socket connects,throttle cable and bearings, etc., and can damage or destroy these parts.''
B. Never wash a motorcycle when it is hot.
C. Use a sponge and a regular garden hose with a regular stream of gentle water cascading out works just fine.You don't use a high pressure jet to water your roses, do you ?
D. It would be ideal to cover the entire seat with a plastic cover before starting to wash with water as most of the electricals are right under the seat.You probably have your bike papers under the seat as well.
E. Use a mild car wash shampoo to clean the bike and not detergent powder.Detergent or dish soap can cause permanent damage to the paint job.Read the instructions on how to use the wash shampoo carefully before using it.
F. Never direct a flow of water directly on to the radiator,use a soft brush instead to remove those dead bugs and clean the radiator fins gently.
G. Clean and lubricate the chain.
H. After you have cleaned you bike allow it to dry for 15 minutes and then take it out for a ride,this will ensure the bike is dry and shining.
I.Washing a motorcycle is a skill,you will get better at it with every wash.Dont be disappointed if you dint get it right the first time.

Note:Many Dukers have reported electrical issues immediately after a high pressure water wash.Don't do it on any motorcycle.

i have ridden it around 400kms now .. duke gives best mileage at around 80kmph on 6th gear ... mileage is around 60kmpl at that speed range ... mileage is in the range of 40s if u ride it at 50kmph ...duke will give very bad mileage if u ride it slow ...it has to be ridden fast everytime ...engine feels very happy at high revs .. it is most fuel efficient at around 6000rpm on 6th gear ...

@Payeng - there is no catcon 'tik tik' cooling sound from duke exhaust too ...all my previous bikes had that sound in initial stages ...

simple n purpose serving....make sure the glue holds it for a healthy period of time...its better to get those drilled and screwed...

I completely disagree. This thread was and still is a very good and informative thread.

The argument in previous pages was very healthy, constructive and informative. Even though some might say it was OT, it was related to technology found in Duke and its younger brother 200NS. But more than that it was quite educational for many of us.
Mods, please do not delete any posts.

neat!!


thats massive!!!
should be really helpful to me as i get my duke soon!!

Couple of points of clarification:

The "W" in a multigrade oil grade stands for Weight, not "Winter". 20W50, for example, means the oil behaves like 20Weight when cold, and 50weight when hot, the end result being an oil that stays at about the same viscosity throughout a range of temperature. The farther "apart" the two numbers are, the wider the temperature range the oil can be suitable for. 20W50 is pretty thick oil, especially for some of the more temperate regions in India. If the temps where you are rarely get above 40 in the summer, especially if you don't do a lot of slow riding in traffic, you could probably get away with a 10W oil, which conceivably can improve your mileage as well as making the engine and transmission smoother when cold. If you live in someplace like Rajasthan, then stick with 20W50.


Second, +1 to the warning against using a pressure washer on the bike. It's not just because of all the electronics. Pressure washers generate enough force to push water past the seals of bearings, which means you can get water (and possibly dirt and grime) inside wheel bearings, steering head bearings, and swingarm bearings, causing significant premature wear.

@Bplus: Good job there. Should be made sticky. People try to avoid quoting the entire post.

I'm yet to get my Duke, hopefully in some 2 weeks, but I've been following this thread since beginning.
In some other thread I read that a Duke owner was riding his Duke next to his Pulsar 200NS friend and that at some normal speed the Duke was showing 4-5 km/h on speedo less than 200NS. At speeds of 120-130 km/h this difference on speedo would be around 10 km/h.

Now, I am not interested in comparing Duke with 200NS but my question is about accuracy of Duke's speedo: is it that Duke shows very accurate speed on speedo and 200NS has a speedo like most other Indian bikes (5-10% higher than actual speed), or is Duke's speedo more or less the same as other bikes but 200NS speedo is way off?

Has anyone with GPS tried to compare Duke's speedo numbers with GPS speeds?
If Duke's speedo shows quite accurate speed then 138 km/h on Duke's speedo would be almost 145-150 km/h on most other bikes!