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  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post

    @john

    Did u pick up a duke too?


    Positive

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    • Originally posted by johnblr View Post
      Xeno, I am doing good. Looking forward to meet you.

      It was raining yesterday. I rode the bike in the rain. The bike was too dirty. Did clean the bike today at home. Now I can see the Engine Diagnosis Warning Lamp is always ON.
      Hope it disappears soon
      Congrats for getting duked as well Johnny bhai
      Get that OBD error indicator checked asap man !

      Well I had three minor issues so far which have been sorted out. The rear indicator and the right mirror were not properly tightened so they both came loose. Secondly my front brake pads had made a squealing mettalic sound while braking gently at really low speeds. They were rubbed with sandpaper and the issue seems to be gone for now.

      p.s : John, how's the performance of the stock tyres in the rain ? Heard they werent confidence inspiring.

      Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
      Congrats Xeno!
      and Damn! 1.1k kms in just 5 days? Its been almost 10 days since i picked up mine and am yet to hit 500kms :P

      @john
      Did u pick up a duke too?
      Woah woah woah aren't too many of us picking up a Duke these days ?

      1200 kms as of today, and I don't even feel I rode even half of it. This bike is pretty much effortless.
      Last edited by Xenologik; 12-06-2012, 01:01 AM.
      A man's testosterone level is directly proportional to bhp that he's using on his motorcycle.

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      • Originally posted by johnblr View Post
        Xeno, I am doing good. Looking forward to meet you.

        It was raining yesterday. I rode the bike in the rain. The bike was too dirty. Did clean the bike today at home. Now I can see the Engine Diagnosis Warning Lamp is always ON.


        Hope it disappears soon
        i think its not the engine diagnossis warning,it's low oil pressure signal.
        generally it happenes bcoz of the water.it will disappear in some time don't worry.
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        • Originally posted by maitrey220 View Post
          i think its not the engine diagnosis warning,it's low oil pressure signal.
          generally it happens bcoz of the water.it will disappear in some time don't worry.
          Maitray dear, you're mistaken there that is the OBD lamp which means OnBoard Diagnosis system has found an error in the system.
          When you have low oil pressure this shows up separately.
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          However I am not sure how much rain riding will affect the sensors on this bike. If its like how it was in the pulsar 220 then god help us
          Last edited by Xenologik; 12-06-2012, 08:33 AM.
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          • Originally posted by johnblr View Post
            Positive
            Awesome, Congrats bro! How long has it been?

            Originally posted by Xenologik View Post
            Congrats for getting duked as well Johnny bhai
            Get that OBD error indicator checked asap man !

            Well I had three minor issues so far which have been sorted out. The rear indicator and the right mirror were not properly tightened so they both came loose. Secondly my front brake pads had made a squealing mettalic sound while braking gently at really low speeds. They were rubbed with sandpaper and the issue seems to be gone for now.

            p.s : John, how's the performance of the stock tyres in the rain ? Heard they werent confidence inspiring.


            Woah woah woah aren't too many of us picking up a Duke these days ?

            1200 kms as of today, and I don't even feel I rode even half of it. This bike is pretty much effortless.
            Ya, am surprised and happy as well!

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            • Originally posted by Xenologik View Post
              However I am not sure how much rain riding will affect the sensors on this bike. If its like how it was in the pulsar 220 then god help us
              I don't remember anyone reporting sensors getting affected after prolonged riding in rain, but few including me have reported it after pressure wash.
              The noise from the front brake, just a matter of time before it reappears
              Last edited by samschenker; 12-06-2012, 02:14 PM.

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              • Originally posted by dishayu View Post
                Could it be that it's in your head? It makes NO DIFFERENCE to the Duke's engine what so ever because it doesn't have nearly high enough compression ratio. My personal experience and logical scientific evidence suggests that fuel itself will not affect performance (unless it's crap fuel or something very exotic which isn't commercially available). With a compression ratio of 11.3:1 it would run equally well on 86 octane rating fuel too (both performance, fuel efficiency wise). There is no logical reason to fuel with 97 octane petrol for the duke. (i only reason i use it is because it's in my nature to go over-spec and it's available at a fuel station on my daily route). Speed/power is probably the best choice for our bikes, that is if the carbon-deposit-cleaning additives really work, otherwise regular unleaded petrol works perfectly fine.
                No its not about being in head. The bike wont show any effect such as knocking on low octane because it has modern computerized fuel injection and timing control to keep detonation and knocking at bay. Moreover it has aluminium head which dissapates heat better allowing more compression on less octane without causing detonation. And AFAIK 11.3:1 is not a low compression ratio. It actually takes benefit from speed 97. I yet have no proof of it but the difference is clear. And by the way i only know one petrol station where speed 97 is available in bangalore (the one near brigade road). Do you know any other?

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                • Is it just me or is anybody else wondering if the KTM 390 Duke Block and Head will bolt onto the KTM 200 Duke's transmission??? If it does it will be a bearable wait till the KTM 390 Moto3 releases next year in 2014.
                  Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure.

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                  • Originally posted by h0tr0d View Post
                    No its not about being in head. The bike wont show any effect such as knocking on low octane because it has modern computerized fuel injection and timing control to keep detonation and knocking at bay. Moreover it has aluminium head which dissapates heat better allowing more compression on less octane without causing detonation. And AFAIK 11.3:1 is not a low compression ratio. It actually takes benefit from speed 97. I yet have no proof of it but the difference is clear. And by the way i only know one petrol station where speed 97 is available in bangalore (the one near brigade road). Do you know any other?
                    First of all there is nothing modern about Duke's ECU or FI in 2012. Secondly, knocking by definition is (uncontrolled) autoignition. There is very little that FI or ECU can do about it. Aluminum head DO allow higher compression ratio but they can't do anything about knocking if you use lower octane fuel. 11.3:1 is slightly above medium compression ratio (ref : splendor 9.0:0, BMW S1000RR 14:0), some. Moreover, the calorific value of 97 octane fuel is the same as any other octane fuel (energy per gram of fuel), so as long as you're not wasting energy by knocking, it's exactly the same thing.

                    Compression ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                    As for Speed 97 in Bangalore, there's one near Johnson market which stocks Speed 97. One at Hosur Road going towards electronic city from Koramangala. And there's one on Kasturba road as well.
                    Last edited by dishayu; 12-07-2012, 02:53 PM.
                    Bajaj Pulsar 150 : 2004-2005
                    Honda Dio : 2005-2012
                    KTM 200 Duke : 2012-
                    Aprilia RSV4 APRC ABS : 2014-

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                    • Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                      Awesome, Congrats bro! How long has it been?
                      Ya, am surprised and happy as well!

                      Just completed 500kms.[ATTACH=CONFIG]87786[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]87787[/ATTACH]
                      The black looks sweet ! Just one in Ahmedabad so far, mine is probably the 2nd or 3rd white duke.

                      I am now nearing 1400 on the odo Ill ride as much as I can in my free time. Don't have any other expenses as such. (single aadmi no gaarlfraand )

                      So far average has more or less remained between 30-40 kmpl, mostly on the higher side.
                      I use the brakes rarely except while slicing traffic as the engine itself slows down fast enough. This bike doesn't have much inertia
                      Brake noise issue sorted for now by sandpapering it, let's see how long it lasts

                      Originally posted by samschenker View Post
                      I don't remember anyone reporting sensors getting affected after prolonged riding in rain, but few including me have reported it after pressure wash.
                      The noise from the front brake, just a matter of time before it reappears
                      ^ Reappears ? Bhai, don't tell me that this squealing brake noise is something that has to be accepted with the ownership of a duke
                      A man's testosterone level is directly proportional to bhp that he's using on his motorcycle.

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                      • duke 390

                        Originally posted by joshzma225 View Post
                        Is it just me or is anybody else wondering if the KTM 390 Duke Block and Head will bolt onto the KTM 200 Duke's transmission??? If it does it will be a bearable wait till the KTM 390 Moto3 releases next year in 2014.
                        Yeah both are identical except the stickerings and orange trellis frame,390's frame is made up chrome meldbonum steel unlike duke 200 to take care of the extra power frm engine.however I would prefer the naked one due to its relaxed riding position,easy to slice through city traffic,less weight when compared to the faired one.ktm's engine will normally produce more heat which the fairings will add to ,the naked one helps to keep the engine cool comparitively,but 390 should hav come out more beefier!!

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                        • Anyone here who has done long-ish tours on the duke? I'm planning a 10 day outing with 6 days of ~300km rides but i'm dreading a major saddle sore and general discomfort. :S
                          Bajaj Pulsar 150 : 2004-2005
                          Honda Dio : 2005-2012
                          KTM 200 Duke : 2012-
                          Aprilia RSV4 APRC ABS : 2014-

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                          • Originally posted by Xenologik View Post
                            ^ Reappears ? Bhai, don't tell me that this squealing brake noise is something that has to be accepted with the ownership of a duke
                            It did reappear on my bike few times, guess its more due to dirt. Shouldn't be something to be worried about

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                            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              Originally posted by dishayu View Post
                              Anyone here who has done long-ish tours on the duke? I'm planning a 10 day outing with 6 days of ~300km rides but i'm dreading a major saddle sore and general discomfort. :S
                              Right in this moment I'm in some dhaba along the highway no. 4 between Bangalore and Gokharna, 550 km in one day. Still 200 km to go... With Spartan jacket and Cramster saddle and tank bags.

                              It's real nice and easy. Seating position is very good, it's only that the seat is little stiff, your ass will feel flat after a few hours. Nothing a short break can't fix. Rear suspension is soft enough (mine is even at position 5, factory is on softer side at 3), but the front forks are little stronger, affects arms little bit. Not much.

                              If I'm sitting fully upright then the wind becomes a problem at 115 kmh. More than that is too much, and the bike will either top or take time to go faster than 125 kmh.
                              But I just found out that if I bend forward just a bit then it's MUCH easier! Bike accelerates easily all the way to redline at 133 kmh.
                              If sitting slightly bent forward I can nicely ride at 130 kmh for longer time. The rev limiter kicks I am at 133/134 kmh, but very softly.

                              Duke is more buttery at redline than at 8000 rpm! :-)

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                              • Finally got my ktm in black. I am one happy soul. I haven't ridden a bike before ever more than 5mins. So still learning still taking in a lot of things. thanks for all the info provided here. The delivery experience was bad waited almost a month to get it.
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