Re: KTM 200 Duke

I'm too looking for good brakes for the duke. I was toying around with the idea of putting a 300mm disc up front but later I thought, will these MRFs be able to keep up with the massive stopping power.
So now I'm settling down for a quick brake fluid change, may be motul 600 RFB DOT4.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I have a pdf from the ngk europe website, you won't be able to find any plug listed for Duke 200 on the american website. If required i'll post a screenshot today evening.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Please share a link or brand name for the disk lock...I wake up at nights sometimes with nightmares of my duke being stolen...
Atleast i'll have a piece of relief..

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hello Everybody,

Just a quick update. If you've seen my recent posts, you will know that I posted images of a crack in my swing arm. For those of you who missed out on it, you'll find my posts as below

1. First post is on page 701 (the very last post)
2. A couple more posts on page 702 with the pics.

Background: I've had my Duke for about 8 months and had a minor accident in June. The bike slipped after hitting a pot hole. I came out of that accident with badly bruised ribs but not much damage to the bike. I had a broken foot peg, a broken left mirror, a twisted clutch lever and lost the fork alignment. I immediately went to the service centre and everything was put back into place and the bike was ready for use.

Issue: About a week ago, I decided to remove the rear tyre hugger to clean it off as the rains have pretty much stopped here in Pune. I realised that the left bolt was struggling to come off and after removing the hugger, I saw that the swing arm has cracked around the bracket. Called up KTM and they decided to take a look. An engineer inspected my bike at the service centre and concluded that indeed the accident has caused the crack.

My contention was that mechanical failure should have an order to it in the sense that if impacted on, the hugger's tube and bolt should have snapped before the swing arm itself as it is one of the toughest components on a bike. However, the bolt and tube did not fail but the swing arm did.

Verdict: I just had a talk with the engineers and it is this part that I want you guys to take a note of and also inform others. please do not flame for or against KTM or introduce any kind of rumor or panic. Share the information that I am about to give you very responsibly. Also take into account the fact, that this may be just a one-off case after all.

Okay, this is what I have learned, the tyre hugger is not a feature on the European bikes. The bolt brackets for a tyre hugger(rear mud guard) have been introduced only for Indian and possibly the rest of Asian market. KTM, will now investigate whether an introduction of this additional bracket pair might result in swing arm getting weak around this point. I cannot stress this enough, It is to be investigated and is not conclusive at this point.

They are already replacing my swing arm with a new one. Let other owners of Dukes know that installing crash pads on their swing arms will be a great idea for safety and if possible (now that rains are over) the tyre hugger should be taken off as falling on either side may result in it cracking the swing arm brackets. Also take time to inspect the brackets and refer the pictures I uploaded if required.

Ride safe, stay well.

regards
-Satyam

Re: KTM 200 Duke

You get viro disclocks on snapdeal.Quality is good, friemd is using it from past one year.


This is basic, my friend has this.you can even get disc lock with alarm from viro or xena
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Re: KTM 200 Duke

I haven't measured the dimensions of the windscreen, you can checkout any Fazer in your nearest parking lot

About the effectiveness of the windscreen, I'd like to agree with [MENTION=18379]splus[/MENTION] , what he shared above.

I've tried a quick speed run till 120kmph. This was done in upright position. Till 80-90kmph you don't feel a thing on your body, I felt that doing 80 to 120, is much more comfortable now, around that speed in upright position you can only feel the air around the shoulder and chine area. I tilted my head a little to accommodate with it.

Will be riding to Bombay tomorrow, so will try different speeds at different positions.

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That is one beautiful looking windscreen... It entirely gives a makeover to the bike and riding experience...

Cheers for the new upgrade !!!

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I think we already have DOT4.
I was thinking to wait a month or two for D390 to come out and then check if it's possible to upgrade to 300mm disc.
But it comes with ABS, so I don't know how that will go.
We'll have to wait little more and then we'll know. Maybe ABS will become available for D200, for ABS lovers...
I'd rather have Metzelers at 11k Rs a pair and 300mm front disc.


Is it much better than what we have?
Would it improve the braking?

MRFs are almost as good as Metzelers in dry, they're quite good tires actually. It's only in wet that Metz are much better.


I only have one non branded with an alarm, and another plain one without alarm.
But many people use Xena. Can't remember which exact model is good for Duke but it's been mentioned in thus thread before, just search for xena.
I'm not sure if it's available in India. It wasn't before.
[MENTION=41871]ynike99[/MENTION] just mentioned another option above with a link, so you might check it out...

Re: KTM 200 Duke

[MENTION=61555]SatyamDubey[/MENTION] Thanks for sharing that info!

Yup, that tire hugger is pain the the ass. It actually makes the bike even dirtier because the mud bounces off the hugger and splashes onto the rear middle of the bike, and even a rider.
I took it off as soon as I reached home from the showroom, and was amazed how the bike looks so much better without it.

A steel screw will be stronger than aluminium, especially if it was designed as an afterthought and placed close to the edge.

It's good that KTM has been made aware of this. Hopefully they will redesign that hugger to be more useful. And more visually appealing, while we're at it!

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Yes, the duke already comes with dot4 brake oil and changing to motul dot 4 oil won't show noticeable difference.

The conversion to 300mm front disc would require you to get some extenders for the caliper machined from very good quality materials. This would be to compensate for the increase in size of the disc and the caliper resting further away from the center of the disc.


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Re: KTM 200 Duke

Well, I'd rather get the whole thing from D390, but that, of course, depends on the price.
Also, doesn't D390 have 4 piston caliper instead of 2 in D200? That should affect the braking power a lot.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

The whole system might involve changing the forks because the caliper holder is different on the 390, a little longer. This won't be very cost affective since the front forks are the most expensive part on the duke. They cost even more than the chassis. upwards of 20k

Are you sure the caliper of 200 is a 2 piston one. Afaik it was 4 piston caliper.

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Re: KTM 200 Duke

Getting the whole assembly would not be VFM, just get the extender for the caliper as dukedey suggested and yes duke 200 has 4 piston caliper, rear has single.
I'm thinking of getting motul 600 because the front brake has lost the bite. I found this particular brake fluid details on R1 forum.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

200 has a 2 piston caliper and 390 has a 4 piston caliper

Edit : Sry, both have 4 piston calipers. Some auto news are misleading .

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Bro if you look at the website then 2013 dukes come with ABS and 300mm front, of course not in India though.
My question is, if there is a provision already made on the duke 200 like it is for the ABS?

Re: KTM 200 Duke

There is a provision in Duke 200 for installing ABS in future. The provisions are there right from ECU connector. I was informed about this while taking delivery 3 months back. The gentleman showed me the connector below the rear seat, and explained, this is for ABS connectivity in future.