Re: KTM 200 Duke


Yup thats the point I was trying to make. I just mentioned what he had to say about not so good performance with his Pipercross filter. Dont bash him as yet. I am a noob, and may be I am not explaining it correctly.

Abhay, next weekend I am going there to replace my coolant with Engine ICE. Do you want to come, so that you can talk to him about it, and get coolant replaced.

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Had I been in mumbai I would have accompanied you guys. Unfortunately I am not.
I want to test his bold claims so bad.

Sent from my GT-I9100

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Does this coolant cost alot more that normal coolant? If yes then please don't. Seriously don't. There isn't a NEED for it, so why waste money on it. But if it costs more or less the same then thik hai. But in anycase, I'll tag along because when he was talking about all this I wasn't really besides you. But I guess it was his brother who must have said all this as, Vikram was standing besides me.

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Yes, it was his brother. Engine ICE costs 1300 bucks. Check out the 1st page of this ownership. I am going for it only after Abhimanyu recommended it. Also, no harm in trying. If it manages to keep heat down, I think it is money well spent. You just have to refill it every 6 months.

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This is interesting

For all you people looking for performance gains, you do know that your Duke will go faster if you go on a diet rather than spending money on a aftermarket air-filter? I haven't yet seen a proper remap in the market. Most of them are only dealing with the top end which is useless as far as I am concerned.

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I guess we guys are not overweight, anything less than that would put us in mal-nourished category. Anyways thank you for your suggestions, and do practice it.

Windscreen DIY : KTM 200 Duke

After 1 month and 4800 kms, all I wanted from my Duke was to feel more planted on highways and long rides.

So, wasted a little time in the market and finally got a solution for the wind blast issue.







Items Procured :

1) Yamaha Fazer Windscreen : Rs. 216/-
2) Allen Key Size 3 : Rs. 20/-
3) Small Candle : Rs. 5/-
4) Spare Screwdriver

Procedure :

Remove the stock windscreen using the size 3 allen key. Trace the Yamaha Fazer Windcreen with the stock one to match the holes.

Make holes using the Indian Jugaad Technique, candle n screwdriver. Put the new windscreen.

Result :

Vibrations over 80kmph

Conclusion :

Need more support/bracket

Experiment :

Try to make adjustments and support with the original bracket, waste some money (and break a windscreen) on aluminium plates to find out that it doesn't work Sleep over the idea for a night and come up with a simple bracket from the handle bar.

Go to a local welder and talk him into making two support bars (answering all the usual questions about the presence of Duke on Indian Roads)
And finally pay him a lumpsump amount of INR150 after testing the bracket.

Find a hardware store near-by and get :

1) Matte Silver Finish Paint : Rs. 43/-
2) Sand Paper No.8 : Rs. 7/-
3) Paint Brush : Rs. 18/-
4) 2 No.8 Nut Bolts : Rs. 5/-

Come home, sand the iron brackets into shiny metal finish and paint two coats of matte silver using the new shiny brush (possibility of never using that again), interval of 1 hour. Open the handle bar support using the Allen Key provided in the toolkit (All Hail Bajaj) tighten the bolts and test drive on a near-by highway (be safe).

Mission Windscreen Accomplished !!

Total cost incurred INR464 : Money saved against the expensive 8k after market optional windscreen (Bliss)

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she looks good with a windscreen

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Hello people, this is going to be my first post on Xbhp. I'M glad that i became the member. Now, i have been following this thread very closely and there isn't much information about one of the duke's main issue "engine heating". what i found out was when the temp. gauge races to the full mark, the engine would under perform and vibration would creep in. So after having enough i decide to buy the coolant which is sold at a premium. The moments later putting it in the engine, the temp gauge is a more or less at 1\2 or 3\4 MAX and if you ride like you stole it, then it will hit the full mark and the fan will kick in which will drastically bring down the temp.

My 2cents about engine ice.

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Hello friends this is my first post even though I was a silent reader from a long time. I'm from Trivandrum, Kerala. I'm writing this post with some disappointment. My Ktm Duke has oil leak from a hole which is on the left side of the engine. I've noticed it 2 weeks ago and reported it to svc the next day. They told me that there is some problem with something which they called 'package' and they told me that it will take a day to fix it as they need to open the the engine. But I don't want them to open my engine because I have seen my friends dukes engine which they opened to change the 'shims'. They told us happily that it's the first time they're going to open a dukes engine. And guess what happened. His engine is almost 'destroyed'. Yeah I'm repeating it. Its engine is almost destroyed. Now it doesn't feel like riding a Duke or even it doesn't sound like a Duke. They opened the his engine 4 times to fix it. And it was in svc for a month. Still they didn't fix it. Even today he has gone to svc because service engineer is coming today. I don't want this to happen to my bike. I'm really afraid of taking it to svc here. I want to know if the oil leak is a major problem? Is it okay if I don't fix it?

My duke is just 3 months old and covered 2900kms. I'll upload some photos of the engine and leaking part. And also I'll upload pics of my friend's Duke when he comes back

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Replacing the packing is not a big deal, they won't touch any internal components for the same. They would just open the head, take off the previous packing and replace it with a new one. The packaging they are talking about is a sheet that goes between two metal parts to seal them properly, thus preventing oil leakage. Don't worry and let them replace the packaging and your bike would be fine. You can stay with the bike while they do the work and make sure they don't touch any other part.

Nothing is wrong with your engine, relax!

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So, what are the impressions with Pipercross?
Lots of loud farting but no go? Have you noticed ANY performance gain? Or even if there is some it's so small that's not worth Rs 3.5k?
And have you guys tried the Pipercross on both stock and Kiirus ECU bikes?

There's no way the rpms would be lower than actually shown on speedo. And you can feel the engine revving higher as well.
It looks like many people, especially those in SCs confuse the red shifting indicator with the rev limiter.

What IS possible, however, is that there exists some kind of SPEED limiter in speedo.

I'd take it easy until we're totally sure about it.
The part where display shows higher revs than they actually are sounds like BS, but some other speed limiter (besides the ECU rev limiter) actually makes sense.
I talked to Vikram from Motozone and Abhishek from Kiirus, and they both told me identical things and even explained it in detail - that there is a SPEED limiter in speedo, which is connected to ECU, and if a certain speed is reached it tells the ECU to cut the power, in a same way as the rev limiter cuts the power.
KTM can and would do such things - just have a look at that video of Duke 125 some 10-15 posts ago, how it definitely has some other kind of limiter besides the regular ECU rev limiter. Most superbikes also have a speed limiter that kicks in at 299 kmh, which is a legal top speed for bikes. Some superbikes "cheat" and the speed display doesn't go higher than 299 kmh even though the speed still increases.

For example, have a look at this fun video where the speed tops at 299 kmh while the rpms still climb up...

Yamaha R1 - 300 km/h - YouTube

Now, I am not saying the additional speed limiter in Duke 200 is a fact! I am only saying that it is POSSIBLE that there is some other kind of limiter, in this case a speed limiter that is inside the console.
As Abhishek said, the way to disable it easy way is to disconnect the cable from the front wheel which reports the speed to the console (rotations per min of the front wheel, which is how the speed is measured). That way the speed won't be reported to the console, so that speed limiter will never get activated. However, you won't have the speed showing on the speedo. You'll still have the rpms and the rest on the display, but not the speed.
Vikram said they can rewire this speed limiter inside the console so it will never kick in. For that they charge 1000 Rs, and the speedo can be even shipped to them for this mod.

There is certainly a sound logic behind this, and the two guys who know little more (Kiirus and Motozone) say the same thing, and say that some people with Kiirus ECU have reported their speed being cut off at different revs which are different from the rev limiter cut off.

But again, I personally don't know that. Until this speed limiter is proven I am taking it as if there is no any other speed limiter besides the ECU rev limiter, but accept that it is technically possible there is some other limiter.
So far I see some owners here reporting going at speeds up to 150 kmh without any limiter apart from rev limiter kicking in.

I'd say so far we're free to chase the D390 top speeds, until proven otherwise.


Put a Duke on diet??? Eh, but what to take out on a NAKED street bike?
Kiirus ECU map is exactly the opposite of what you said - it boosts the lows and mids considerably, but it doesn't really increase the top end power. But yes, it moves the rev limiter up to 11,700 rpm from 10,500 rpm (10,000 in 5th and 6th gears), so it "stretches out" the top end power, so you can have a higher top end speed.


Haha, you beat me to it!!! And 7500 Rs cheaper...

That looks quite good for such a cheap mod! Great work!
How does it perform in high speed? Does it vibrate a lot? And does it protect from a wind blast?

From what I see in MRA RNB windscreen, you might want to make the supporting brackets little larger to spread out the pressure points. At a high speed a very small brackets might actually break the windscreen because all the pressure from the air goes to that small area. But it also might be perfectly sufficient as it is, considering it's also fixed at the bottom...

I just gave my bike for a service, so will put up my MRA RNB windscreen when I get the bike back this evening.
I'll post some photos tomorrow.

That sounds like a very good improvement! Thanks for sharing.

BTW, I don't think there is a "heating issue" in Duke 200.
If you ride Duke 390 you'll see it heats up more than D200. And then try Ninja 650 for half an hour around city. After that experience D200's radiator fan at its hottest will be like a cool breeze! So, it's all relative... Duke 200 squeezes a lot of juice out of its 200 cc engine so it heats up more.

BTW, I've never yet had my temp going full bars (on the lower temp part, of course). When it reaches 1 bar below the top of the lower part the fan kicks in, and brings the temp down to 2 bars below the top.
But I also hardly ever see the temp going as low as 3 bars below the top, that's only when it's really cold outside. It always varies between 1 and 2 bars below the top in a city, and constant 2 bars below the top on open roads.

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Yup no performance improvement with PiperCross. I am waiting for your windscreen pictures.

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Thanx... It does hold pretty well with no vibrations, as it is fastened to the handle bar, which itself has no vibrations at high speeds.

The support is made of 8mm iron rods, which is pretty strong itself, but I am a little skeptical about the meter bracket because it's made of plastic and the allen bolts hold on a small bolt inserted into a rubber.

If any issues in future, I'll replace it with the number plate holder.

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Thank you so much dukedey