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**chinmayakar** · 08-17-2013, 09:51 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by shv18 View Post

Hi,

it would be really nice to meet you guys and Mr. Vikram at his workshop itself. I am also interested to see what gains you gentlemen have witnessed with the KIIRIUS remap and how the stock bike performs with the stock map (I am considering owning one in a not too distant future!!

) . What response can we achieve from just installing performance air filter on your respective vehicles. Forgive me mate, but i still have my doubts about the claims made. I guess we can put it to rest on this Sunday itself. If senior rider abhimanyu31 does join us this Sunday, his experience and his independent views should clear the air about claims made.

Please do PM me your contact nos. We can connect on phone and then decide the right time to meet.

I shall carry the System 23 fuel additive for you gentlemen as well.

Cheers,

Where do you guys plan to meet on Sunday? Vikram's place? I thought it was a ride or something. Anyways let me know when and where to meet. I think on Sunday Vikram is going to Pune. Anyways, I would love to check out his workshop. It would be a very nice idea to test the filter infront of knowledgeable persons like Abhimanyu Sir. I will try out the filter there infront of you guys.

To clear your doubt, call up Vikram as a D200 owner and ask him about the filter. Your doubts will be laid to rest.

**wallpapers123** · 08-17-2013, 10:20 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by abhayshanu View Post

The 40T would be my personal choice. Even though you wouldn't get a very big difference between 39T and 40T in terms of Acceleration and Top speed, but that's the exact reason for the 40T suggestion. The 39T will give you much slower acceleration and you will be bored of the D200, but you will gain alot of highway high speed rideablility. So I would say go for the 40T, still pretty good highway highspeed rideablility and a not so slower acceleration. 40T is a Karizma sprocket and you should buy it from the Hero SVC, both chain and rear sprocket should be of karizma.

On another note, now I am back to 43T as I rarely go on highway ride, mostly very very local ride. Nothing above 40-50 kmph. So didn't make sense to lose the fun D200

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Also as most of us know the rear mudguard really doesn't work well in rains and lets quite alot of muck on us from rear AND looks UGLY, I have cut it. This is how it will look for now, will cut it even more and remove these indicators too, will make indicator arrangements else where
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Looks brilliant..!!

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**roysandeep82** · 08-17-2013, 01:47 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by abhayshanu View Post

The 40T would be my personal choice. Even though you wouldn't get a very big difference between 39T and 40T in terms of Acceleration and Top speed, but that's the exact reason for the 40T suggestion. The 39T will give you much slower acceleration and you will be bored of the D200, but you will gain alot of highway high speed rideablility. So I would say go for the 40T, still pretty good highway highspeed rideablility and a not so slower acceleration. 40T is a Karizma sprocket and you should buy it from the Hero SVC, both chain and rear sprocket should be of karizma.

On another note, now I am back to 43T as I rarely go on highway ride, mostly very very local ride. Nothing above 40-50 kmph. So didn't make sense to lose the fun D200

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Also as most of us know the rear mudguard really doesn't work well in rains and lets quite alot of muck on us from rear AND looks UGLY, I have cut it. This is how it will look for now, will cut it even more and remove these indicators too, will make indicator arrangements else where
.[ATTACH=CONFIG]112871[/ATTACH]

hi!! Thanks for ur suggestion...will go for the 40T rear sprocket....so u mean that the rear sprocket and chain will be of the karizma and only the front sprocket will be of the duke 200...right??

**shv18** · 08-17-2013, 01:58 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post

Where do you guys plan to meet on Sunday? Vikram's place? I thought it was a ride or something. Anyways let me know when and where to meet. I think on Sunday Vikram is going to Pune. Anyways, I would love to check out his workshop. It would be a very nice idea to test the filter infront of knowledgeable persons like Abhimanyu Sir. I will try out the filter there infront of you guys.

To clear your doubt, call up Vikram as a D200 owner and ask him about the filter. Your doubts will be laid to rest.

Hi mate,

Please do PM me your no. We can then connect and decide the timings and location details.

See you guys tom.

Cheers,

**sanjana k** · 08-17-2013, 02:04 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hey guys do u all have any idea where i can get such kind of mirrors for my duke in mumbai-navi mumbai??

**Gyroerror** · 08-17-2013, 08:23 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Finally took time out for the supertrapp which had been gathering dust at home, the bottom end is fantastic compared to stock but a bit too loud for my taste even with minimum plates.

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**ynike99** · 08-18-2013, 11:31 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Those tyres are insane man.share the mke and size.
Also, those with understanding of german, please explain what this guy didbin video.
KTM Duke 125 entdrosseln wie die Yamaha Yzf R-125 - YouTube

**Gyroerror** · 08-18-2013, 06:33 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by ynike99 View Post

Those tyres are insane man.share the mke and size.
Also, those with understanding of german, please explain what this guy didbin video.
KTM Duke 125 entdrosseln wie die Yamaha Yzf R-125 - YouTube

Vee Rubber V163 140/80 and Pirelli MT60 110/90, the front wont fit with the original fender.

**splus** · 08-18-2013, 06:48 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by ynike99 View Post

Those tyres are insane man.share the mke and size.
Also, those with understanding of german, please explain what this guy didbin video.
KTM Duke 125 entdrosseln wie die Yamaha Yzf R-125 - YouTube

You may have stumbled upon something interesting here.
Not sure what, but the guy disconnects some kind of limiter. It could easily be the same speed limiter that Abhishek from Kiirus and Vikram from Motozone were talking about.
It's a speed limiter (not rev, but speed limiter), which in Duke 125 might be more restrictive than in Duke 200.
Same reason - Duke 125 "shouldn't" go as fast as 130 kmh, at least according to KTM.

Anyway, disconnecting that wire, according to the video, disconnects blinkers and small fog/parking light, but also disables some speed limiter.

A Duke 200 owner who has some speed limit might want to try this.

I again wasn't able to go past 135 kmh on a highway due to strong winds, so I'm still not sure if my speed cuts off at 137 kmh or not.
[MENTION=61791]Cleaner[/MENTION] I'll go for a service tomorrow or day after and will ask them about that fuel pump change at every 12k km. BTW, how long a "normal" fuel pump lasts for, in other bikes?

As [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] said, I'm probably running lean because of that fuel pump and messy tank, so I'll clean it all and change the fuel pump early.
Which should help the bike perform better, I noticed after those 2 months of not being used it wasn't as punchy as before.

**Gyroerror** · 08-18-2013, 08:33 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by splus View Post

You may have stumbled upon something interesting here.
Not sure what, but the guy disconnects some kind of limiter. It could easily be the same speed limiter that Abhishek from Kiirus and Vikram from Motozone were talking about.
It's a speed limiter (not rev, but speed limiter), which in Duke 125 might be more restrictive than in Duke 200.
Same reason - Duke 125 "shouldn't" go as fast as 130 kmh, at least according to KTM.

Anyway, disconnecting that wire, according to the video, disconnects blinkers and small fog/parking light, but also disables some speed limiter.

A Duke 200 owner who has some speed limit might want to try this.

I again wasn't able to go past 135 kmh on a highway due to strong winds, so I'm still not sure if my speed cuts off at 137 kmh or not.
@Cleaner I'll go for a service tomorrow or day after and will ask them about that fuel pump change at every 12k km. BTW, how long a "normal" fuel pump lasts for, in other bikes?

As @psr said, I'm probably running lean because of that fuel pump and messy tank, so I'll clean it all and change the fuel pump early.
Which should help the bike perform better, I noticed after those 2 months of not being used it wasn't as punchy as before.

I think this would be specific to the 125 as its sold in the UK/EU for A1 licence holders (under 11Kw), the 200 doesn't have a speed or power restriction like you mentioned, just a rev limiter to make life easy for the engine.

**DukeDey** · 08-18-2013, 08:37 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by splus View Post

You may have stumbled upon something interesting here.
Not sure what, but the guy disconnects some kind of limiter. It could easily be the same speed limiter that Abhishek from Kiirus and Vikram from Motozone were talking about.
It's a speed limiter (not rev, but speed limiter), which in Duke 125 might be more restrictive than in Duke 200.
Same reason - Duke 125 "shouldn't" go as fast as 130 kmh, at least according to KTM.

Anyway, disconnecting that wire, according to the video, disconnects blinkers and small fog/parking light, but also disables some speed limiter.

A Duke 200 owner who has some speed limit might want to try this.

I again wasn't able to go past 135 kmh on a highway due to strong winds, so I'm still not sure if my speed cuts off at 137 kmh or not.
[MENTION=61791]Cleaner[/MENTION] I'll go for a service tomorrow or day after and will ask them about that fuel pump change at every 12k km. BTW, how long a "normal" fuel pump lasts for, in other bikes?

As [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] said, I'm probably running lean because of that fuel pump and messy tank, so I'll clean it all and change the fuel pump early.
Which should help the bike perform better, I noticed after those 2 months of not being used it wasn't as punchy as before.

There is no particular change interval for a fuel pump. It may as well work for the entire life time of the motorcycle provided good quality fuel without any adulterations is used.

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**chinmayakar** · 08-19-2013, 12:20 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Alright guys, had a wonderful time yesterday meeting shv18, Abhayshanu, Abhimanyu and FZErider at Motozone in Colaba. Looking forward to go on a ride with this gang. Anyways, regarding the filter, I did try the PiperCross filter yesterday, however as Vkram claimed earlier, it did not exactly blow me away.

As with any other aftermarket filter, lots of noise, but not the go. From what I understood, D200 has got another chip in the Speedo unit, which restricts the revs. Until the first 3 free service, the revs are limited. So even if you see bike revving all the way to 11000 rpm on the speedo, in actual fact it is not revving that high.

He also said he can remove the limiter, however since my bike is hardly 1600 KMs on the odo, he has asked to refrain until 3rd service.

So, from what I understood, apart from the ECU, theres another limiter in the speedo that is restricting.

May be I am not explaining it properly, and it may sound weird, but that is what I could infer.

Also I plan to get the coolant changed to Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant.

Heard good reviews about it from Abhimanyu yesterday. Anyone using it already?

**abhayshanu** · 08-19-2013, 01:08 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post

Alright guys, had a wonderful time yesterday meeting shv18, Abhayshanu, Abhimanyu and FZErider at Motozone in Colaba. Looking forward to go on a ride with this gang. Anyways, regarding the filter, I did try the PiperCross filter yesterday, however as Vkram claimed earlier, it did not exactly blow me away.

As with any other aftermarket filter, lots of noise, but not the go. From what I understood, D200 has got another chip in the Speedo unit, which restricts the revs. Until the first 3 free service, the revs are limited. So even if you see bike revving all the way to 11000 rpm on the speedo, in actual fact it is not revving that high.

He also said he can remove the limiter, however since my bike is hardly 1600 KMs on the odo, he has asked to refrain until 3rd service.

So, from what I understood, apart from the ECU, theres another limiter in the speedo that is restricting.

May be I am not explaining it properly, and it may sound weird, but that is what I could infer.

I told them and I say it again, I don't believe this. Ok I CAN believe that the revs are limited, but I CAN'T believe that the revs will be shown high but will not be that high, i.e. show 11k on the meter but actually be 8/9/10k. There is a easy way to test this, just test your bike with another duke, simple. I just can't fathom that any company would do this.

**chinmayakar** · 08-19-2013, 01:13 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by abhayshanu View Post

I told them and I say it again, I don't believe this. Ok I CAN believe that the revs are limited, but I CAN'T believe that the revs will be shown high but will not be that high, i.e. show 11k on the meter but actually be 8/9/10k. There is a easy way to test this, just test your bike with another duke, simple. I just can't fathom that any company would do this.

Usko poochna tha na wahan pe. You were also there when he was giving me gyan. I dont know if you have noticed, but when I went to KTM Seawoods service centre, the guy was also trying to say the same thing. He said before 1st service we have set the blinker to 5500 rpm. I replied back stating that was just a blinker, I can still rev beyond that.

He gave a very cunning smile, and said, aap kar lo. He said after every free service he will have to free up revvs.

**DukeDey** · 08-19-2013, 01:24 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post

Usko poochna tha na wahan pe. You were also there when he was giving me gyan. I dont know if you have noticed, but when I went to KTM Seawoods service centre, the guy was also trying to say the same thing. He said before 1st service we have set the blinker to 5500 rpm. I replied back stating that was just a blinker, I can still rev beyond that.

He gave a very cunning smile, and said, aap kar lo. He said after every free service he will have to free up revvs.

Nothing like that buddy, I have revved the duke till actual cut off and that too after getting it serviced at 500kms. I was able to touch 138kmph back then till the time the rev limiter kicked in. The blinker is only the light that warns you, you can set it yourself.
And it can't be that the meter is showing the revz to climb and the revz are actually not building, a biker who rides his bike and knows his bike cannot be fooled by this. Ktm as a reputed brand won't do such stupid things. Had they wanted to limit the revz for the safety of the engine they would have done that without the meter showing actual increase in revs.

I so want to talk to the guy from Motozone and give him a piece of my mind. I hate people who tend to think just because they know a little about bikes they can say whatever they want and get away with it. If he is reading this stop making an a** out of people.

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