So if i buy a coolant bottle. And just in case i need to refill the coolant all of a sudden(even at a no mans land), what proceedure would i be following then?? do i need to keep the ratios in mind??
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Re: KTM 200 Duke
Originally posted by psr View Post
So if i buy a coolant bottle. And just in case i need to refill the coolant all of a sudden(even at a no mans land), what proceedure would i be following then?? do i need to keep the ratios in mind??Code:[URL]https://www.instagram.com/ankit_himalayas/[/URL]
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The ratio is under ideal conditions...if you have coolant leak, and have only coolant, then you can top up radiator with the coolant, and if you see water getting pumped in a field, you can also use that water.....emergencies demand a different perspective, and once you reach a place where you can correct it, flush with safe water and refill as per OE recommendations...Originally posted by Ankitvile View PostSo if i buy a coolant bottle. And just in case i need to refill the coolant all of a sudden(even at a no mans land), what proceedure would i be following then?? do i need to keep the ratios in mind??
Remember to drive at less speed if you have more coolant in the radiator , since the coolant is not a good heat carrier..When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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Originally posted by Big bore View Post[ATTACH]113575[/ATTACH]
I really doubt about the vinegar thing, because in my case they refused to put in the distilled water also.
Be very firm with them for the distilled water flush or els you will ruin the coolant and cooling system.
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Guys got an email from NGK stating the correct part number for duke is LKR8A-9(though on the part search it will show as "no parts found")Originally posted by chinmayakar View PostFound this link regarding NGK plugs.
As per the link Duke 200 requires LKAR8AI-9 Iridium plug.
Could not find this plug on any of Indian resellers site. Any idea where we could get it?
And this particular plug will be available in India from last week of September .
For details contact
State Manager Mr. Manish P Singh - 9321969699.Last edited by Big bore; 09-07-2013, 11:09 AM.IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE
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Sorry to say but I disagree. Keeping the bike idling is doing nothing but increasing the temperature of the engine. The temperature of the heat generated inside your engine is way above the cooling efficiency of your fan/coolant etc. Idling doesn't even circulate the coolant/water pump all around to efficiently take the heat away from your piston and block that fast.Originally posted by Big bore View PostIt is definitely recommended to idle the bike after a hard run. This is done so that fan would kick in and bring down the temperature and then one can turn off the engine , but it just doesn't happen, the fan doesn't stop and bike eats away the petrol.
If you wish to nurse this notion, just ride peacefully on the highest gear possible for a few kms before stopping and shutting off the engine.
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Bro thanks a lot for sharing , as I already managed to screw up my old coolant, because the previous coolant wasn't drained properly.
This will benefit other dukers who are going for the coolant switch.IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE
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Originally posted by Big bore View PostGuys got an email from NGK stating the correct part number for duke is LKR8A-9(though on the part search it will show as "no parts found")
And this particular plug will be available in India from last week of September .
Yes what you mentioned is the normal plug. I have listed Iridium plug. See the difference in part no? There is an "I"
LKAR8AI-9 Iridium plug.
LKR8A-9 Normal plug.
I am interested in Iridium, my experience with it has been good.
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Mmmm makes sense, dude when you going in for the change?? Where are sourcing it from?.Originally posted by chinmayakar View PostYes what you mentioned is the normal plug. I have listed Iridium plug. See the difference in part no? There is an "I"
LKAR8AI-9 Iridium plug.
LKR8A-9 Normal plug.
I am interested in Iridium, my experience with it has been good.
I'm thinking to get it from bhiwandi outlet, at least that's what the site says.IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE
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Re: KTM 200 Duke
Originally posted by splus View PostWell, I already gave it a good wash and cleaned the radiator, but nothing changed.
In fact, after I got the bike from SC all cleaned up 2 weeks ago I noticed it was heating up even more.
I wonder what could they have changed?
Maybe they topped up the coolant, but that wouldn't make it worse.
It's really strange...
I am facing sort of the same problem.
I complained to the service centre guy that the bike is heating up a lot more than it used to, he wasn't bothered much initially but after a little bit of pushing around he looked into it and so it happens, my bikes radiator fan was faulty according to him. It was changed under warranty along with the tiny things called shins cause the bike was having starting issues (and this the second time it happened, yet they just changed the shins, explanation being it is because of rapid heating and the abrupt cooling down of the bike.) but since the last couple of days the bike is heating up even more now! There was also a little coolant spill yesterday. I will be taking the bike to the svc again.
Something that i wanted to ask before i go is that my bikes chain is very lose even after fixing it a couple of times, it just keeps banging against the swingarm, the odo has some 11k odd kms on it, so is the time to change the sprockets or something ? Or what is it thats causing this issue ?Last edited by Abhishek2255; 09-08-2013, 05:14 AM.When life gives you Yamaha, make it RD350 not R15. :D
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For the bike like D200, the stresses on the chain and sprockets would be high.. better change the chain set.. As in any bike also, it needs to be changed at 12-15k kms..Originally posted by Abhishek2255 View PostSomething that i wanted to ask before i go is that my bikes chain is very lose even after fixing it a couple of times, it just keeps banging against the swingarm, the odo has some 11k odd kms on it, so is the time to change the sprockets or something ? Or what is it thats causing this issue ?
Ride safe and have fun.
Regards
Nadeem
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So, could it be that the SC guys have been topping up the coolant every time only with coolant, without adding any (distilled?) water, and that's the reason the cooling has been getting weaker gradually over the time??Originally posted by psr View PostThe ratio is under ideal conditions...if you have coolant leak, and have only coolant, then you can top up radiator with the coolant, and if you see water getting pumped in a field, you can also use that water.....emergencies demand a different perspective, and once you reach a place where you can correct it, flush with safe water and refill as per OE recommendations...
Remember to drive at less speed if you have more coolant in the radiator , since the coolant is not a good heat carrier..
Also, it would match with me noticing that the heating has gotten worse after my last visit to SC...
Btw, I'm not sure I understand everything - are all coolants premixed with water, or they need to be mixed by a person who's doing a coolant top up or coolant replacement?
Those who switched to Engine Ice, have you mixed the coolant with water as suggested?
Yeah, check the chain, sounds about the time to change the whole set. I think they only sell the entire set anyway...Originally posted by Abhishek2255 View PostI am facing sort of the same problem.
I complained to the service centre guy that the bike is heating up a lot more than it used to, he wasn't bothered much initially but after a little bit of pushing around he looked into it and so it happens, my bikes radiator fan was faulty according to him. It was changed under warranty along with the tiny things called shins cause the bike was having starting issues (and this the second time it happened, yet they just changed the shins, explanation being it is because of rapid heating and the abrupt cooling down of the bike.) but since the last couple of days the bike is heating up even more now! There was also a little coolant spill yesterday. I will be taking the bike to the svc again.
Something that i wanted to ask before i go is that my bikes chain is very lose even after fixing it a couple of times, it just keeps banging against the swingarm, the odo has some 11k odd kms on it, so is the time to change the sprockets or something ? Or what is it thats causing this issue ?
I know for sure that my heating issue has nothing to do with the radiator fan because the engine was heating up even on a highway at speeds of 100+ kmh.
At those speeds wind blast onto the radiator should be more than enough to cool down the engine. But it wasn't.
So, following the logic, either my engine is producing far more heat than before (unlikely), or the coolant isn't cooling down the engine as much as before (likely).
Taking into account the fact that my heating issue has been getting worse gradually over the time points even more to a problem with coolant.
However, everywhere on internet I see the recommended coolant change is around 2 years, even for bigger bikes that heat up more.
Damn, maybe the Duke eats chains and drinks coolants much more than other bikes???Last edited by splus; 09-08-2013, 01:59 AM.
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Engine Ice is a ready to use pre-mixed coolant. PLEASE DO NOT MIX ANY WATER.Originally posted by splus View PostSo, could it be that the SC guys have been topping up the coolant every time only with coolant, without adding any (distilled?) water, and that's the reason the cooling has been getting weaker gradually over the time??
Also, it would match with me noticing that the heating has gotten worse after my last visit to SC...
Btw, I'm not sure I understand everything - are all coolants premixed with water, or they need to be mixed by a person who's doing a coolant top up or coolant replacement?
Those who switched to Engine Ice, have you mixed the coolant with water as suggested?
Yeah, check the chain, sounds about the time to change the whole set. I think they only sell the entire set anyway...
I know for sure that my heating issue has nothing to do with the radiator fan because the engine was heating up even on a highway at speeds of 100+ kmh.
At those speeds wind blast onto the radiator should be more than enough to cool down the engine. But it wasn't.
So, following the logic, either my engine is producing far more heat than before (unlikely), or the coolant isn't cooling down the engine as much as before (likely).
Taking into account the fact that my heating issue has been getting worse gradually over the time points even more to a problem with coolant.
However, everywhere on internet I see the recommended coolant change is around 2 years, even for bigger bikes that heat up more.
Damn, maybe the Duke eats chains and drinks coolants much more than other bikes???
And coolant changes generally are for preventive maintenance. Its always wise to keep check of the level, check for contamination and rust in the radiator.
If you feel like the cooling of the vehicle has gone down, then
1) make sure the radiator grill is clean
2) make sure the circulation of the coolant is not choked by any chance. Meaning the coolant has not broken down into lumps or become grainy (looks like curdled milk)
3) And if you aren't stingy just replace the entire cooling system with a good quality coolant after thorough flushes with clean filtered water. Distilled water is not needed to flush your radiator and is nothing but a waste of money. And after flushing just simply make sure all water is dried or drained out.
4) Ready mixed coolants are the best compared to taking the risk of getting the correct ratio and end up getting it completely wrong.
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Commercially available coolant are of two types,....Concentrated coolant to be mixed with water, and Pre-mix.....a pre-mix is just that,... a pre-mixed coolant+water mix which needs to be poured in sufficient quantity into the Radiator...A concentrated coolant requires you to know the total quantity of the radiator, and then make a mix for the quantity required by adding water and coolant in the ratios required.....Originally posted by splus View PostSo, could it be that the SC guys have been topping up the coolant every time only with coolant, without adding any (distilled?) water, and that's the reason the cooling has been getting weaker gradually over the time??
Also, it would match with me noticing that the heating has gotten worse after my last visit to SC...
Btw, I'm not sure I understand everything - are all coolants premixed with water, or they need to be mixed by a person who's doing a coolant top up or coolant replacement?
Those who switched to Engine Ice, have you mixed the coolant with water as suggested?
Like I said before, most SVC mechs add only coolant, and not water, which leads to more coolant concentration and leads to increased heating and less cooling...
To rule out this problem, just drain the entire coolant from the system, and then add 25 % coolant and 75 % distilled water .
MAK makes REDI COOL a pre mixed coolant for use without dilution in Radiators....1 Liter costs 165/-..
Here is a link of a seller in ebay india for the same....
MAK REDI COOL- Premixed ready to use radiator coolant- upto 9% off!! | eBayWhen Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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How do you come to know that the fan turned on at those speeds? Does the duke console have a separate indication for that?Originally posted by splus View PostBut, as I mentioned, my fan got activated at a highway ride at 100-120 kmh, which means the engine isn't being properly cooled.
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Sir, few days back my NS faced a major coolant spill. A clamp holding a rubber pipe onto the radiator was not placed properly and most of it was gone. After fitting the pipe back properly & checking elsewhere for further leaks and when everything was confirmed to be fine, the mechanic added Valvoline coolant into the radiator without diluting at all. I didn't observe the coolant can. I'm not sure if it was a ready-to-use type or if it required diluting. Anyway, I haven't faced any overheating issue. On long rides, the perimeter frame would catch the heat from the engine and even now it's all the same. The old coolant was 17000 kms old. Is there anything I should watch out for with the newly added coolant?Originally posted by psr View Postmost SVC mechs add only coolant, and not water, which leads to more coolant concentration and leads to increased heating and less cooling...
To rule out this problem, just drain the entire coolant from the system, and then add 25 % coolant and 75 % distilled water .
MAK makes REDI COOL a pre mixed coolant for use without dilution in Radiators....1 Liter costs 165/-Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity.
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