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  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post
    The brake assy doesnt move when moved ...the axle nut hasn't been touched since the show room and same with the chain tension
    will visit the SVC tomo just to be sure..


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    I am still quite convinced, it's the loose assembly. May be not loose enough for you to move it with mild force. But under hard braking it does.
    Does this 'mechanical movement' only show up under relatively hard braking when you pump the rear break lever ?
    The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

    My Touring Logs-
    French Riviera
    https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
    Scotland-
    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
    France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
    KTM chronicles-
    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

      Hi guys,

      I am another happy Duke owner like everyone here. It has been 9 months and 98xx kms and enjoying every bit of it.
      A week back the battery was not holding charge. Had to charge it 4 times in 1 week. Thought that the battery was dead but the SVC found out that it is a faulty starter motor which was replaced under warranty. One question though. Has the exhuast note of the bike changed? It is not the same as it was before.

      I am looking at options right now. Either get the ecu remapped with a exhaust, matt wrap or go for the 390 or Ninja 300.

      Need your opinions badly.
      Ride Safe!!

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      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

        Originally posted by Doga View Post
        I am still quite convinced, it's the loose assembly. May be not loose enough for you to move it with mild force. But under hard braking it does.
        Does this 'mechanical movement' only show up under relatively hard braking when you pump the rear break lever ?
        Just once it happened when I really pressed the brake lever quite hard....usually it doesnt make the mechanical movement..

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        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

          Originally posted by venkatesh_B View Post
          Hi guys,

          I am another happy Duke owner like everyone here. It has been 9 months and 98xx kms and enjoying every bit of it.
          A week back the battery was not holding charge. Had to charge it 4 times in 1 week. Thought that the battery was dead but the SVC found out that it is a faulty starter motor which was replaced under warranty. One question though. Has the exhuast note of the bike changed? It is not the same as it was before.

          I am looking at options right now. Either get the ecu remapped with a exhaust, matt wrap or go for the 390 or Ninja 300.

          Need your opinions badly.
          That's one thing even I'm afraid of.
          It completely changes the character of duke, fellow dukers have reported the changed exhaust note after 9000 km.
          the 2 stroke auto's sound from the exhaust is gone ):
          IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE

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          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

            Ok so I last weekend got my 5th service done. Spark plug was changed, along with the usual oil change. I was hoping for a miracle but it was not to be.
            Bike was still running hot and the "high coolant temperature" message showed up twice. Not sure where to go from here. The KTM engineer suggests a coolant change and going by big bore's experience(whom I happened to meet at the svc) engine ice would be a great choice for a new coolant. Will surely switch to that in a few days.
            Also I now notice that the fan turns on a bit late, sometimes when all the bars in the normal temp region are filled. But the last time I checked as per the ecu diagnostic tool, the fan is switched on at exactly 96 C, the time taken to bring the temp down was of course a lot more than usual. But could it be that the temp sensor is faulty and reads pessimistically? Meaning the reading is 96 when the temp is say 97-98 actually? Or may be the fan is old and is no longer able to blow air at the rate required?
            Besides these, there are a host of reasons which can explain excessive heat: lean mixture being one of them. But the KTM engineer refuses even to acknowledge that it can be a reason given that bike is FI.
            So right now, I'll try getting the temp sensor checked and replaced if possible(I have had my thermostat replaced already 2 months back with no benefit), get the fan replaced followed by a switch to engine ice.
            If these still don't help, then the lean mixture/ problem in FI system one of the angles I'll push the svc to look at.
            [MENTION=64067]Big bore[/MENTION]: Thanks for the pointers for the coolant replacement and the reco for Motoshop.

            Btw did anyone notice that the newer lots are coming with dust boots for forks ? No more seal busts. Rejoice potential owners.And for existing dukers ,those rubber boots(or rather covers) would cost a mere 100, but I hear fitting charges would be around 400 bucks
            The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

            My Touring Logs-
            French Riviera
            https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
            Scotland-
            http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
            France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
            http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
            KTM chronicles-
            http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

              On the way to office..!!


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              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                Originally posted by Doga View Post
                Ok so I last weekend got my 5th service done. Spark plug was changed, along with the usual oil change. I was hoping for a miracle but it was not to be.
                Bike was still running hot and the "high coolant temperature" message showed up twice. Not sure where to go from here. The KTM engineer suggests a coolant change and going by big bore's experience(whom I happened to meet at the svc) engine ice would be a great choice for a new coolant. Will surely switch to that in a few days.
                Also I now notice that the fan turns on a bit late, sometimes when all the bars in the normal temp region are filled. But the last time I checked as per the ecu diagnostic tool, the fan is switched on at exactly 96 C, the time taken to bring the temp down was of course a lot more than usual. But could it be that the temp sensor is faulty and reads pessimistically? Meaning the reading is 96 when the temp is say 97-98 actually? Or may be the fan is old and is no longer able to blow air at the rate required?
                Besides these, there are a host of reasons which can explain excessive heat: lean mixture being one of them. But the KTM engineer refuses even to acknowledge that it can be a reason given that bike is FI.
                So right now, I'll try getting the temp sensor checked and replaced if possible(I have had my thermostat replaced already 2 months back with no benefit), get the fan replaced followed by a switch to engine ice.
                If these still don't help, then the lean mixture/ problem in FI system one of the angles I'll push the svc to look at.
                [MENTION=64067]Big bore[/MENTION]: Thanks for the pointers for the coolant replacement and the reco for Motoshop.

                Btw did anyone notice that the newer lots are coming with dust boots for forks ? No more seal busts. Rejoice potential owners.And for existing dukers ,those rubber boots(or rather covers) would cost a mere 100, but I hear fitting charges would be around 400 bucks
                Sad to hear that all effort you made to keep things cool on your bike went in vein but we now know that it is not the spark plug.
                FI system could be the culprit, but before jumping on to that, I would recommend you to check for the coolant in the reservoir.
                Now I ask this because, it should be between min and max mark at all times when engine is cold.
                It did the trick for me (I may be wrong)

                About the rubber boots, you mean the one like the bullets have ?
                IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE

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                • KTM 200 CC Chain issue

                  Hi All,

                  Recently i took my KTM 200 CC for schedule servicing and got most of the things fixed but my chain is still is loose condition. I have asked the Service guy to get it tight but he is advising it to get it change since it can't be cut because it has no bits structure. As per my understand it can be tighten and still worked, can i get it tight and move with it or do i change the chain completely. My bike is just a year old and i drove about 9000 KM.

                  Thanks

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                  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                    Those boots would be good. I thought of pultting a foam sock sleeve and pull it up to the seal part to avoid dust. But these boots will be good ...i didnt noticed it in the new lot though. It will save the dust part which busts the seal...but the shocks and big sudden jerks i think are also the reason of seal going kaput. The stock front forks are not that potent for off roading i think. Taking sudden jerks is a problem with the seals.
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                    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                      Went to the service centre at Seawoods yesterday. One of the bolts from my exhaust was missing because of which vibrations were creeping in. Also, got the chain tightened which had become loose.

                      Bike is smooth again. Regarding coolant change, including me, Amit and Sameer we are 3 of us now who will be approaching Motozone for coolant change. (Engine Ice)

                      Anybody else from Mumbai wants to join us?

                      Also had a query regarding Tail Tidy from performnce store, any body has installed it yet? Thats next on the list. So list of changes include:

                      1. Engine Ice
                      2. Iridium Plug
                      3. Tail tidy install
                      4. Exhaust change & BMC filter

                      Yes in the above order
                      Last edited by chinmayakar; 09-12-2013, 01:22 PM.

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                      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                        Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
                        Went to the service centre at Seawoods yesterday. One of the bolts from my exhaust was missing because of which vibrations were creeping in. Also, got the chain tightened which had become loose.

                        Bike is smooth again. Regarding coolant change, including me, Amit and Sameer we are 3 of us now who will be approaching Motozone for coolant change. (Engine Ice)

                        Anybody else from Mumbai wants to join us?

                        Also had a query regarding Tail Tidy from performnce store, any body has installed it yet? Thats next on the list. So list of changes include:

                        1. Engine Ice
                        2. Tail tidy install
                        3. Exhaust change & BMC filter

                        Yes in the above order
                        Using a different coolant voids warranty?

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                        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                          Originally posted by Ankitvile View Post
                          Those boots would be good. I thought of pultting a foam sock sleeve and pull it up to the seal part to avoid dust. But these boots will be good ...i didnt noticed it in the new lot though. It will save the dust part which busts the seal...but the shocks and big sudden jerks i think are also the reason of seal going kaput. The stock front forks are not that potent for off roading i think. Taking sudden jerks is a problem with the seals.
                          The forks have "endurance" written on them..:P

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                          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                            Originally posted by Doga View Post
                            Ok so I last weekend got my 5th service done. Spark plug was changed, along with the usual oil change. I was hoping for a miracle but it was not to be.
                            Bike was still running hot and the "high coolant temperature" message showed up twice. Not sure where to go from here. The KTM engineer suggests a coolant change and going by big bore's experience(whom I happened to meet at the svc) engine ice would be a great choice for a new coolant. Will surely switch to that in a few days.
                            Also I now notice that the fan turns on a bit late, sometimes when all the bars in the normal temp region are filled. But the last time I checked as per the ecu diagnostic tool, the fan is switched on at exactly 96 C, the time taken to bring the temp down was of course a lot more than usual. But could it be that the temp sensor is faulty and reads pessimistically? Meaning the reading is 96 when the temp is say 97-98 actually? Or may be the fan is old and is no longer able to blow air at the rate required?
                            Besides these, there are a host of reasons which can explain excessive heat: lean mixture being one of them. But the KTM engineer refuses even to acknowledge that it can be a reason given that bike is FI.
                            So right now, I'll try getting the temp sensor checked and replaced if possible(I have had my thermostat replaced already 2 months back with no benefit), get the fan replaced followed by a switch to engine ice.
                            If these still don't help, then the lean mixture/ problem in FI system one of the angles I'll push the svc to look at.
                            @Big bore: Thanks for the pointers for the coolant replacement and the reco for Motoshop.

                            Btw did anyone notice that the newer lots are coming with dust boots for forks ? No more seal busts. Rejoice potential owners.And for existing dukers ,those rubber boots(or rather covers) would cost a mere 100, but I hear fitting charges would be around 400 bucks
                            Doga,
                            I already posted about the long run of Radiator fan(around 1/2 an hour). I am also planning for the Thermostat replacement, can you tell me the amount you paid for that(Including labor charges)?
                            Coming to the Dust boots for Forks, I have seen them long back, but didn't give much importance until I read about the Fork leaks. I think this can be beneficial for us.
                            Many of us are recommending for Engine Ice and in future(3rd free service) I am gonna change to that. I need some experts to put their hands for the same(In Bangalore ) not any regular SVC ppl.

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                            Originally posted by Edd View Post
                            Using a different coolant voids warranty?
                            No Buddy, It won't. Choosing the fluids for your bike is up to you. But you need to stick to the prescribed standards.
                            KTM Lover,

                            Zak

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                            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              Originally posted by psr View Post
                              In all RPM and Speed Limiters it is the Ignition that is switched off and the fueling is never restricted... The Ignition Voltage to the Ignition coil is shunted to Ground(-) leading to no spark,and thereby the speed is reduced...which is why you have the sudden loss in Power...
                              Just saw Mr.Chetan"s Pic on the connector....I could see the snap lock and I had indicated the same with a RED arrow, and the connector pin also has an internal catch which must be disengaged to move the pin out...to do it, first disengage the two connectors...then insert a safety pin's sharp end carefully into the back of the Flat side of Pin, that you want to remove , at the same time gently pulling on the wire, and the pin will come out.....

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                              @psr thanks for the details @Big bore and @splus you got the details here already sorry was away with a lot of office work and never got the time to login here ..

                              Between the last one week i was able to do FE testing with the 40T rear sprocket with the stock map i got pretty less FE (with stock sprocket i used to get about 34 to 36kmpl in city riding alone never checked the highway FE with stock sprocket). Total kms run 278 kms (calc from low fuel to low fuel full tank ). The manual says the reserve fuel capacity is 1.5lts approx so out of the 10.5 lts i had consumed 9lts making it a total FE of 30.88 per litre. Fuel used Shell Super. Out of the 278kms , 123 kms was pure highway ride with no city riding cruising speed of 80 -100 and couple of occasions 120. Rest 155 kms was in city with some 10% stop and go traffic rest all was cruise mode. Dont know if all of the above data is helpful for you guys. But for now i ll be switching back to the stock 43T rear sprocket till i get a remap or the RD remapable piggy back ecu coz till then using the 40T is not giving any advantage.

                              During this testing one observation i made was when you disconnect the above sockets either of the blue and white wires the FE calc that's shown on the multi display didnt function. And i only observed this when i filled full tank fuel and reset the trip meters to check the KPL never started back again from zero. So i had to connect back all the wires i had disconnected and also reset the ECU (Battery disconnect method) and then it started to work. Now this could also be one of cases but thought its worth to mention.

                              About the FE being low and the KPL(displayed in the multi function display) not functioning will wait for our other friends Serge and others to do the testing and confirm the same.

                              Originally posted by Big bore View Post
                              That's one thing even I'm afraid of.
                              It completely changes the character of duke, fellow dukers have reported the changed exhaust note after 9000 km.
                              the 2 stroke auto's sound from the exhaust is gone ):
                              My exhaust note is already changed at 6k kms it may be due to the amount of high speed testings i have done. And indeed i miss the old exhaust note that used to come in my bike. For some reason i feel this has to be replaced under warranty, because how can this happen so quick i agree if the same happened at lets say some 40-50k kms correct me if i am wrong please.

                              The new KTM power parts have arrived in Bangalore as per this post from a fellow Duker. The wind shield looks pretty good for Rs 2550 need to know how effective this is.
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                              Cheers,
                              Chethan

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                              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                                Originally posted by Chethan Shivakumar View Post
                                @psr thanks for the details @Big bore and @splus you got the details here already sorry was away with a lot of office work and never got the time to login here ..

                                Between the last one week i was able to do FE testing with the 40T rear sprocket with the stock map i got pretty less FE (with stock sprocket i used to get about 34 to 36kmpl in city riding alone never checked the highway FE with stock sprocket). Total kms run 278 kms (calc from low fuel to low fuel full tank ). The manual says the reserve fuel capacity is 1.5lts approx so out of the 10.5 lts i had consumed 9lts making it a total FE of 30.88 per litre. Fuel used Shell Super. Out of the 278kms , 123 kms was pure highway ride with no city riding cruising speed of 80 -100 and couple of occasions 120. Rest 155 kms was in city with some 10% stop and go traffic rest all was cruise mode. Dont know if all of the above data is helpful for you guys. But for now i ll be switching back to the stock 43T rear sprocket till i get a remap or the RD remapable piggy back ecu coz till then using the 40T is not giving any advantage.

                                During this testing one observation i made was when you disconnect the above sockets either of the blue and white wires the FE calc that's shown on the multi display didnt function. And i only observed this when i filled full tank fuel and reset the trip meters to check the KPL never started back again from zero. So i had to connect back all the wires i had disconnected and also reset the ECU (Battery disconnect method) and then it started to work. Now this could also be one of cases but thought its worth to mention.

                                About the FE being low and the KPL(displayed in the multi function display) not functioning will wait for our other friends Serge and others to do the testing and confirm the same.



                                My exhaust note is already changed at 6k kms it may be due to the amount of high speed testings i have done. And indeed i miss the old exhaust note that used to come in my bike. For some reason i feel this has to be replaced under warranty, because how can this happen so quick i agree if the same happened at lets say some 40-50k kms correct me if i am wrong please.

                                The new KTM power parts have arrived in Bangalore as per this post from a fellow Duker. The wind shield looks pretty good for Rs 2550 need to know how effective this is.
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                                It's too early in my opinion, for the exhaust note to change.
                                It would be a good idea to replace it under warranty.
                                I'm getting really scared now, as the noise defines the duke and if it's gone, then.......):
                                IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE

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