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  • #7321
    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by Big bore View Post
    @Chethan Shivakumar buddy I tired to remove the black connector, is it bolted to that blue thing where it sits, because I tried with some decent force to pull it, forget coming out it didn't even move an inch. The duke 125 guy removes it with such an ease, my duke is 2013 model and did ktm went a step ahead by gluing it up :P. Guys I may sound paranoid but we already have torque limiter, speed limiter and rev limiter. What's next glue up the connectors ):
    As far as I know there are no torque limiter...regarding the connector, all automotive connectors are polarized and will have a snap on lock...Look closely and see if there is a tongue like protrusion on one side of conector, to release it, press on it while pulling the connector,...and if not, the connector has inside inverted catch....this can be released by seeing if there is one or two to release, and can be released with thin blade screwdriver inserted gently into it...Which ever technique you do, be Gentle and NEVER PULL THE WIRES, but ONLY THE CONNECTOR.... Here are some sample pictures

    Last edited by psr; 09-04-2013, 07:31 PM.
    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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    • #7322
      Re: KTM 200 Duke

      Guys today while coming back from office met a bad attitude skoda superb, now I was in no mood to race with him but his attitude was so stinky I had to teach him a quick lesson. Once the light turned green and with nearly no traffic ahead I whack opened the throttle and flew away the DSG skoda jus couldn't keep up, but as I reached 135 the distance between us was huge and I was hit so hard by the speed limiter that I felt as if the rear just locked up for a split second. Now this is very hard on the rider and could be dangerous, the cut off should be smooth. Ktm should do something about this, it's not safe. I was totally surprised, the limiter bit me in my a** big time.
      IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE

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      • #7323
        Re: KTM 200 Duke

        Originally posted by Big bore View Post
        Guys today while coming back from office met a bad attitude skoda superb, now I was in no mood to race with him but his attitude was so stinky I had to teach him a quick lesson. Once the light turned green and with nearly no traffic ahead I whack opened the throttle and flew away the DSG skoda jus couldn't keep up, but as I reached 135 the distance between us was huge and I was hit so hard by the speed limiter that I felt as if the rear just locked up for a split second. Now this is very hard on the rider and could be dangerous, the cut off should be smooth. Ktm should do something about this, it's not safe. I was totally surprised, the limiter bit me in my a** big time.
        Yup, that's what I've been saying...
        The rev limiter isn't hard, it's quite soft (for example, you can try hitting it in 5th gear and notice how it cuts off), but the speed limiter is nasty. It's sharp and short, throws you down 4-5 kmh in a moment.
        You better hold onto your bike well if you're still accelerating fast.
        If you touch 136 kmh real gently then it won't be that bad, but it's still sharp.

        One more reason to pull that blue-white wire out of that black socket!

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        • #7324
          Re: KTM 200 Duke

          Originally posted by splus View Post
          Yup, that's what I've been saying...
          The rev limiter isn't hard, it's quite soft (for example, you can try hitting it in 5th gear and notice how it cuts off), but the speed limiter is nasty. It's sharp and short, throws you down 4-5 kmh in a moment.
          You better hold onto your bike well if you're still accelerating fast.
          If you touch 136 kmh real gently then it won't be that bad, but it's still sharp.

          One more reason to pull that blue-white wire out of that black socket!
          Very true bro, to all the dukers if you decide to whack open the throttle then please be careful, it will cut you off pretty bad. [MENTION=18379]splus[/MENTION] bro that's why my decision to pull the plug was made, actually we should figure out a way to remove that blue white wire and keep the rest so blinkers and headlamp perform normally. But I have a doubt, as this wire is removed how would the electrical signal going to and from that socket behave? How would the ECU react to this?.
          IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE

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          • #7325
            Re: KTM 200 Duke

            Originally posted by Big bore View Post
            Very true bro, to all the dukers if you decide to whack open the throttle then please be careful, it will cut you off pretty bad. [MENTION=18379]splus[/MENTION] bro that's why my decision to pull the plug was made, actually we should figure out a way to remove that blue white wire and keep the rest so blinkers and headlamp perform normally. But I have a doubt, as this wire is removed how would the electrical signal going to and from that socket behave? How would the ECU react to this?.
            I'm still pretty busy, but tomorrow I'll try to take out the blue-white wire out of the black socket, and just ride the bike normally.
            And in next couple of days do the top speed tests...

            [MENTION=53683]Chethan Shivakumar[/MENTION] how did you exactly pull out the black socket out of the big blue one? Did you have to press some side pin? Or use some thin screwdriver to release the pin that's inside the black socket?

            And the blue-white wire - do you just simply pull it out of the black socket, or it has some safety pin as well?

            Edit: [MENTION=64067]Big bore[/MENTION] I don't think there should be any problems with ECU if it just simply doesn't get any signal that the "max allowed" speed has been reached.
            It would just work "normally", without telling the FI to cut the fuel at 136 kmh, which is what happens...
            Last edited by splus; 09-05-2013, 01:44 AM.

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            • #7326
              Re: KTM 200 Duke

              Originally posted by splus View Post
              I'm still pretty busy, but tomorrow I'll try to take out the blue-white wire out of the black socket, and just ride the bike normally.
              And in next couple of days do the top speed tests...

              [MENTION=53683]Chethan Shivakumar[/MENTION] how did you exactly pull out the black socket out of the big blue one? Did you have to press some side pin? Or use some thin screwdriver to release the pin that's inside the black socket?

              And the blue-white wire - do you just simply pull it out of the black socket, or it has some safety pin as well?

              Edit: [MENTION=64067]Big bore[/MENTION] I don't think there should be any problems with ECU if it just simply doesn't get any signal that the "max allowed" speed has been reached.
              It would just work "normally", without telling the FI to cut the fuel at 136 kmh, which is what happens...
              I'm going to try it tomorrow itself. If you look closely the guy with the duke 125 just pulls on grabbing the wire which I guess is not correct as [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] mentioned it in his post. The pics are quite helpful but we need to decide if duke has got standard pull type or if a screwdriver is needed to release it.
              A quick video of pulling it out would be useful, we are counting on you bro [MENTION=53683]Chethan Shivakumar[/MENTION].
              IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE

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              • #7327
                Re: KTM 200 Duke

                Originally posted by splus View Post

                Edit: @Big bore I don't think there should be any problems with ECU if it just simply doesn't get any signal that the "max allowed" speed has been reached.
                It would just work "normally", without telling the FI to cut the fuel at 136 kmh, which is what happens...
                In all RPM and Speed Limiters it is the Ignition that is switched off and the fueling is never restricted... The Ignition Voltage to the Ignition coil is shunted to Ground(-) leading to no spark,and thereby the speed is reduced...which is why you have the sudden loss in Power...
                Just saw Mr.Chetan"s Pic on the connector....I could see the snap lock and I had indicated the same with a RED arrow, and the connector pin also has an internal catch which must be disengaged to move the pin out...to do it, first disengage the two connectors...then insert a safety pin's sharp end carefully into the back of the Flat side of Pin, that you want to remove , at the same time gently pulling on the wire, and the pin will come out.....

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                Last edited by psr; 09-05-2013, 09:42 AM.
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                • #7328
                  Re: KTM 200 Duke

                  Originally posted by psr View Post
                  In all RPM and Speed Limiters it is the Ignition that is switched off and the fueling is never restricted... The Ignition Voltage to the Ignition coil is shunted to Ground(-) leading to no spark,and thereby the speed is reduced...which is why you have the sudden loss in Power...
                  Just saw Mr.Chetan"s Pic on the connector....I could see the snap lock and I had indicated the same with a RED arrow, and the connector pin also has an internal catch which must be disengaged to move the pin out...to do it, first disengage the two connectors...then insert a safety pin's sharp end carefully into the back of the Flat side of Pin, that you want to remove , at the same time gently pulling on the wire, and the pin will come out.....

                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]115093[/ATTACH]
                  So this snap lock thingy should be pressed so as to release the lock???
                  Thanks for the tech info on speed limiter, hope it doesn't cause any electrical problem or complication. I tried in the morning but failed to remove it, I shall try agin.

                  OT : my engine ice coolant was contaminated. I took out the reservoir cap and to my surprise the coolant is of light green color (color of motul coolant). Even after me repeatedly telling the SVC Guy to drain it with distilled water at least 3-4 times the guy didn't listen and screwed up my 1300 bucks. Dukers who want to switch to engine ice please don't go to SVCs to replace it.
                  Last edited by Big bore; 09-05-2013, 11:09 AM.
                  IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE

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                  • #7329
                    Re: KTM 200 Duke

                    Originally posted by Big bore View Post
                    So this snap lock thingy should be pressed so as to release the lock???
                    Thanks for the tech info on speed limiter, hope it doesn't cause any electrical problem or complication. I tried in the morning but failed to remove it, I shall try agin.

                    OT : my engine ice coolant was contaminated. I took out the reservoir cap and to my surprise the coolant is of light green color (color of motul coolant). Even after me repeatedly telling the SVC Guy to drain it with distilled water at least 3-4 times the guy didn't listen and screwed up my 1300 bucks. Dukers who want to switch to engine ice please don't go to SVCs to replace it.
                    Yes the lock lever must be pressed to release.....The RPM limiter by passes the voltage from the CDI to ground thereby causing nill spark and engine spin down....it does cause strain on the CDI output, but it is of a temporary nature, and so no harm happens....
                    The best distilled water is available free if you have a Air Conditioner at home...the condensed water that comes out is pure distilled water if you can catch it without contamination...In most Split AC this is possible, by routing the AC water drain pipe into a 10 liter jerrycan...
                    Last edited by psr; 09-05-2013, 11:15 AM.
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                    • #7330
                      Re: KTM 200 Duke

                      Guys,
                      I can see some interesting discussion is going on. Sorry for interrupting but, couldn't able to.
                      Occasionally(hardly seen about 3 times), my bikes radiator fan is running more than 5 mins. Today also it happened the same. I can see there are still 2 bars left to raise to the max(The bottom one).
                      Appreciate your thoughts.
                      KTM Lover,

                      Zak

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                      • #7331
                        Re: KTM 200 Duke

                        Originally posted by Syed Zakir Ahamed View Post
                        Guys,
                        I can see some interesting discussion is going on. Sorry for interrupting but, couldn't able to.
                        Occasionally(hardly seen about 3 times), my bikes radiator fan is running more than 5 mins. Today also it happened the same. I can see there are still 2 bars left to raise to the max(The bottom one).
                        Appreciate your thoughts.
                        Check coolant level and front of radiator for blockage with dirt/mud...
                        When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                        • #7332
                          Re: KTM 200 Duke

                          Originally posted by Syed Zakir Ahamed View Post
                          Guys,
                          I can see some interesting discussion is going on. Sorry for interrupting but, couldn't able to.
                          Occasionally(hardly seen about 3 times), my bikes radiator fan is running more than 5 mins. Today also it happened the same. I can see there are still 2 bars left to raise to the max(The bottom one).
                          Appreciate your thoughts.
                          Bro even I was facing this issue, but with the engine ice things are better now.
                          Yes it's very important to clean the radiator and keep it clean all times, try removing the guard and cleaning it.
                          IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE

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                          • #7333
                            Re: KTM 200 Duke

                            Today got my coolant replaced , which SVC managed to screw it up completely. Now the cooling is back and fan cuts off after 2mins of idle.
                            Also tried the ezi engine additive and man I should say.... the engine is smooth, acceleration is insane, vibration at 120 almost gone
                            No more false neutral. It has become a honda with mad acceleration of ktm :P
                            IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE

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                            • #7334
                              Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              Originally posted by Big bore View Post
                              Today got my coolant replaced , which SVC managed to screw it up completely. Now the cooling is back and fan cuts off after 2mins of idle.
                              Also tried the ezi engine additive and man I should say.... the engine is smooth, acceleration is insane, vibration at 120 almost gone
                              No more false neutral. It has become a honda with mad acceleration of ktm :P
                              [MENTION=64067]Big bore[/MENTION], which part of Mumbai are you from. I am also planning to get my coolant replaced with Engine Ice. How was your experience with Engine Ice? Did you get it replaced by KTM service center at SeaWoods? I spoke to them on phone and they were eager to help.

                              But going by your experience I think I will get it done from Motozone.

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                              • #7335
                                Re: KTM 200 Duke

                                Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
                                [MENTION=64067]Big bore[/MENTION], which part of Mumbai are you from. I am also planning to get my coolant replaced with Engine Ice. How was your experience with Engine Ice? Did you get it replaced by KTM service center at SeaWoods? I spoke to them on phone and they were eager to help.

                                But going by your experience I think I will get it done from Motozone.
                                Bro actually i was to PM you for meeting up and tag along to get mine replaced and yours filled in. But today saw the coolant leak, and freaked out so got it replaced on war-footing bases.
                                It was due to contamination the coolant boiled over all thanks to the stupid SVC . Please don't take it to SVC as engine ice shouldn't be mixed with any other type of coolant.
                                I live in thane
                                IF YOU RIDE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, THERE WON'T BE

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