Well may be...but here're few of my observation...

1. CBR vs Duke comparison is quite incorrect as both of them are in different leagues serving different purposes altogether
2. The engine heating could be more from the higher compression ratio, but certainly not due to stressed engine. Being a DOHC engine, I don't think it would be a stressed engine.
3. Regarding speedo, Pulsar's speedo calibration would be certainly more optimistic than any Japs/European bike's calibration
4. Regarding gear shift comparison, yes, certainly one has to shift more gears for several reasons like torque, shorter gears & the strokes. They all make the difference. Probably that's what KTM intended for a bike like KTM 200; personally, for the look of D200, I think those are on fine lines.

BTW, RE's UCE engine is not 5 decade old; if I'm not wrong, they're not more than 2-3 years old.

Anyway, these are my line of thoughts on Duke as I don't have experience with Duke.

Uncle xBhp'ian - That was OT & for non OT, clean the alloy wheel with Petrol; For D200 & Ninja it might hardly matter as the alloy wheels are black in color, but for CBR, being silverish, even a lightest dust is highlighted.

i tend to agree with you on 1st, 3rd and 4 th point.
need an clear explanation of the 2nd point.

The CR of Duke is 11.x compared to 10.7 of CBR; more compression more heat.

RG Since you are not asleep right now, any comments on ^^^?


@Duke owners: This is what your fellow Duke owner (who has also owned in the past / currently owns P150, P220Fi, R15, Ninja 250R, Duke 200) had written on 09-14-2010.

Bolded for added visibility. Since P220, R15, Ninja 250R and Duke 200 all use O-Ring chains, what works on one should work on others too.

IMO Rs. 80/- per lubing session is pure waste of money. If I have to spend that money for DIY cleaning, I would rather pay the exact same amount to PBK and get it done rather than getting my own hands dirty. I know you all can afford it since it is just 80 bucks but I would rather spend it on a liter of Petrol .

P.S.: I have never used any "chain clean" on my P220 chain ever. It is cleaned only at 5k km service at PBK. I only use TVS Chain Spray liberally (not RG liberally though) every 500km and my first Chain + Sprocket set lasted over 27k km (without any cheap+cost saving modifications).

P.P.S.: These days, TVS spray costs 395/- for the 500ml can and lasts like an eternity (compared to a can of Motul Chain Lube Spray).

Not all that early either sir. many have completed SS, many have clocked more than 1k in a very short time. many more are munching miles at ease too.

And most of other stuff has been addressed by aargee.

2 bikes, each a peach in its own class is being unfairly compared. I would not brand another bike as bad based on my own personal opinion and state it as a general opinion.

Take some pleasure from watching the video, one of the more detailed reviews I have seen till date.

Overdrive: First ride of KTM Duke 200 - YouTube

And please stop calling each other sir. Feels like school all over again

@Shubz Sayank is 2/3 your age

Regarding wheel balancing...

On Rajath's issue - Guess he's using less on front & more with rear brakes, that's what I feel from his description on the issue.

If you allow me add two more comments...
+1

+Million & counting

Dude please post a pic with the led lights on the tank.. and any other special light ..

You mean to say that you move the bike forward just about half the bikes length and then continue to lube the chain? ...Its fun no doubt using the Motul Chain Lube and Chain Clean, but I would really love a good *CHEAP* Paddock stand...the one at the KTM showroom was a reported 4k when i asked to take it with me :-D

Hehe yes me and my critical eyes!!! Its a gift and yet it is my curse!!! I do the same thing to my cell phone too :-D

It really wasn't about Luck my friend, just take a look at the warranty section in the manual, anything that has a manufacturing defect, either has to be repaired OR replaced, since they can't fix a chip of aluminum coming off the swing arm they HAVE to replace it. Although they (Ghatkkopar Svc Station) did offer me a paint(touch up) job for the scratch on my clutch cover and swing arm, I politely declined that offer!!! & proceeded to have hem replaced entirely instead. My argument with the Workshop manager to authorize the Warranty replacement of the parts was simple, either get me a replacement part or get me a replacement bike, and things started to get moving from then on.

Really man...I wish I could be the quality control at KTM :-p Everything would be perfect then ;-)

Aargee: Heating is an Issue, I do feel getting omellete made in a cuty bumper to bumper traffic in delhi at 13:00 hours for an instance

Ofcourse, when you have about 1000 sqft piece of land paved with recron blocks & 2 kids who run around to help you...paddock sucks

You get one for less than half the price quoted at HMSI ASC

Two options I see, either you get used to the heat & eat the omellete OR eat the omellete & get used to the heat ; I'm no expert on D200, see what the real owner's has to say. Or use riding pants, that should keep you off from heat.

I hear ya!!!


You mean a Honda Motors Service center would be able to give me a paddock stand @around 2k!??!?!?!

Pulling leg, Eh?

Tell me something more about changing the coolant to better version? if you have an idea?


OT: When do you sleep?

No; last time I heard their price was somewhere around Rs 1800; Didar T.Nagar; just check if it would suit D200.

Best is water, but it will corrode your pipes; better option, stick with what you've now, it wouldn't change to anything better. But pls consult at 3 places because I'm no expert here...
1. Owner's manual
2. KTM ASC
3. D200 owners here

I am Jack's medulla oblongata

Edit - I hope there's a fan to cool off the radiator LP; kindly confirm.

@Enthusiastic - Its way too O.T in D200 ownership thread. I'm resting it for now