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  • Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
    Actually punarvasu was one of the biggest reasons this thread was locked initially.
    Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
    But as he said, he is now courageous enough. Bravo Mr. punarvasu, how did you do that?!
    Each person has his own right to dream (what else are we doing), especially in a democracy like ours where the actual minority rules. Who am I to question this right to dream?

    More than that, none of the bikers here are kids below 5 years. So, they need not be warned about the danger of riding a bike downhill in neutral gear. So I kept mum.

    Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
    Mr. Punarvasu also manages to write in bold "If I come to this thread to bash the bike as you said, what can you do, my dear young Praveen?" Wow, and he feels that he was threatened!! I just hope that moderators and xpolice is watching this language!
    Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
    Also, he says "I am of a very low IQ and hence cannot understand anything about anything." but at the same time he is intelligent enough to judge the performance of the motorcycle just by looking at its gear ratios and tyre patterns etc.
    Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
    Wow again, I think he is confused about himself. Are you, punarvasu?
    Yes. In the same meaning you mean.

    Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
    And I just cannot wait for Mr. punarvasu to come back, pick my post up line by line and give some sarcastic replies like he did above.
    Tathastu!

    Your discomfort is my happiness; your happiness is not my happiness. So, no sarcasm.

    Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
    Nobody hates questions, but your attitude is funtastic!
    That is not true. Everybody hates questions especially when they are unable to answer them.
    Words are to express our thoughts and hence new words are always created. Funtastic seems to be nice word. Actually you are nothing less than a great genius and I am not flattering - honestly.

    Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
    For now, just one question to punarvasu. How do you know that CBR150R's engine hesitates to go above 8500rpms (especially given the fact that it revs more freely than its closest rival)?
    Three are the reasons:

    1. Punarvasu is a synonym of Vishnu who, as per Hindu mythology, knows everything about everything in this universe.

    2. The tachometer on CBR150R is equally erroneous as its speedometer. If in doubt, check with a digital tachometer.

    3. It is difficult to rev its engine above true 8500 RPMs.

    Lastly, you too are awaiting a ban on punarvasu?
    Last edited by punarvasu; 02-09-2013, 04:33 AM.

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    • Originally posted by punarvasu View Post

      2. The tachometer on CBR150R is equally erroneous as its speedometer. If in doubt, check with a digital tachometer.

      3. It is difficult to rev its engine above true 8500 RPMs.
      Do share how you know this. Or in fact, if there is anyway you can prove it, do so ! Its a good way to show others you know what your talking about. If not, then they might be right in what their saying.

      The main reason i say this is, the CBR comes factory tested making peak power at 10,500 rpms, and your saying the bike doesnt rev easily beyond 8500. Makes me think Honda wouldnt want that would they. Also, if what your saying is true, then the tachometer is so so so so very faulty, that when it shows 11000 rpm, it isnt truly beyond 8500 ?!?

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      • Ok guys, chill down.

        It is true that speedo and tacho readings contain errors, but not more than 5-7% most of the time. There's a difference in horse power figures b/w the crank and the wheel and it can be as high as 20%. Example - Ducati Panigale. They claim 195 hp, but dyno says 158 hp.

        Also, the point that CBR's 11.5k RPM isn't more than 8.5k is vague. It's simply not right.
        How am I saying this? Well, let me pull out the tested figures from the 600cc supersports bikes, where these errors are magnified due to the increased power and speed figures.

        in the july issue of cycle world, on page 51, they had an article on tachometer's truth and the 600rr came out on top, followed by kawi, suzuki, triumph, and the infamous yamaha r6's missing 1500rpm

        honda 600rr:
        indicated rpm: 5000 tested: 5000 error: 0%
        indicated rpm: 10000 tested: 10000 error: 0%
        indicated rpm: 15200 tested: 15200 error: 0% (redline)

        kawi 6r:
        indicated rpm: 5000 tested: 4700 error: 6.5%
        indicated rpm: 10000 tested: 9400 error: 6.5%
        indicated rpm: 15800 tested: 14550 error: 8.5% (redline)

        suzuki gsxr600:
        indicated rpm: 5000 tested: 4700 error: 6.5%
        indicated rpm: 10000 tested: 9400 error: 6.5%
        indicated rpm: 16400 tested: 15400 error: 8.5% (redline)

        triumph 675:
        indicated rpm: 5000 tested: 4700 error: 6.5%
        indicated rpm: 10000 tested: 9200 error: 8.5%
        indicated rpm: 14500 tested: 13250 error: 9.5% (redline)

        yamaha r6:
        indicated rpm: 5000 tested: 4900 error: 2%
        indicated rpm: 10000 tested: 9500 error: 5%
        indicated rpm: 17750 tested: 15950 error: 11.5% (redline)
        Now, we see that the max error is 11.5% on a Yammy R6. Honda had no error at all, but none of the bikes had tacho error as high as 17-20% as mentioned by people in previous posts.
        Honda says that the peak power is at 11.5k RPM, that means the bike will hit the figure no matter what. Redline is after 11k, that means the bike will rev till 10k assuming more than 10% error in readings.

        But, if the actual reading is 10k (tacho reading 11k with the error), the engine would be in its power band and keep pulling until its hits actual 10.5k RPM.
        I feel there is very less error in Honda tachos because the engine stays true to its nature and keeps pulling till about 11k RPM. If this 11k RPM is true 10.5k RPM, then in that case its barely 4% error and is quite acceptable.


        Source - honda's tachometer has 0% error in accuracy : Honda CBR 600RR Sportbike Forum : 600RR.Net
        Last edited by Divya Sharan; 02-09-2013, 09:17 AM. Reason: Added source
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        • Thanks punarvasu a.k.a Vishnu! As I expected, you didn't fail to disappoint as your reply is filled with sarcasm. I liked the "your Lordship" part the most! Now don't put a curse on me please.

          Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
          Three are the reasons:

          1. Punarvasu is a synonym of Vishnu who, as per Hindu mythology, knows everything about everything in this universe.

          2. The tachometer on CBR150R is equally erroneous as its speedometer. If in doubt, check with a digital tachometer.

          3. It is difficult to rev its engine above true 8500 RPMs.

          Lastly, you too are awaiting a ban on punarvasu?
          As Lenov has said, can you prove any of the above points? That is the biggest concern. You continue to make these statements but you never support them with facts. Regarding 2nd point, have you done it yourself to be so sure about it? Regarding 3rd point, well your point is a fail. Honda says the peak power comes at 10500rpm and there are numerous professional reviews to support this claim that the 150R's engine is rev happy and reaches this milestone without much trouble. Whether you want to believe or not is your problem, but at least these have been tested. Have you tested it yourself to say otherwise?

          I mean really, this time please come back with some proper reply because your sarcasm with words like "Lordship", "my lord" and "tathastu" etc. are not funny anymore. We are not interested in that. Neither are we interested in the synonym of your user id. Coming to this point, since Vishnu (you) knows "everything about everything in this universe", arranging facts to support your statements like in quote shouldn't be very difficult, right? Again, come back with a proper reply. Otherwise spare this thread of your godly presence.
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          • Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
            Three are the reasons:

            1. Punarvasu is a synonym of Vishnu who, as per Hindu mythology, knows everything about everything in this universe.

            2. The tachometer on CBR150R is equally erroneous as its speedometer. If in doubt, check with a digital tachometer.

            3. It is difficult to rev its engine above true 8500 RPMs.

            Lastly, you too are awaiting a ban on punarvasu?
            ha ha
            As I expected, you didn't 'properly' answer to any of my questions.
            And wait a sec, another claim added to your list of 'imperfections'.. the tachometer.
            I think, you missed a couple of more things..,
            the bolt in the silencer cover., it misses 2.45 threads from the value stated in manual.
            and yeah, the seat width is 1.556 mm less than the value in manual.
            Seriously, are these it, or still more to come??

            And, am frightened. Please don't come into this thread again for I fear you'll hurt me.
            The limiter kicks in @11,500 rpm just within a second after the first shift..And, that's where the fun begins !! ;)

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            • Changed the airfilter yesterday. It is a time consuming job because it is under the fuel tank. Now there is slight increment in pickup and exhaust sound also changed ...

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              LivE 2 RiDE ....


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              Bajaj Pulsar (2007 - 12)
              Honda Shine (2006 - 07)

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              • Originally posted by jomindolges View Post
                Changed the airfilter yesterday. It is a time consuming job because it is under the fuel tank. Now there is slight increment in pickup and exhaust sound also changed ...
                That's a stock filter or an aftermarket product??
                And, could you give some exact details on how to access the filter for its removal???

                But, the air filter is recommended to be changed after 16000kms, so, it should atleast be okay till 8K??
                But, it looks so dirty at 5.5K. I have to check mine how it looks as my odo has alreay been 8K.
                Last edited by neevarp16; 02-09-2013, 12:41 PM.
                The limiter kicks in @11,500 rpm just within a second after the first shift..And, that's where the fun begins !! ;)

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                • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
                  That's a stock filter or an aftermarket product??
                  And, could you give some exact details on how to access the filter for its removal???

                  But, the air filter is recommended to be changed after 16000kms, so, it should atleast be okay till 8K??
                  But, it looks so dirty at 5.5K. I have to check mine how it looks as my odo has alreay been 8K.
                  It s stock airfilter only. After market free flow airfilters are not that much valuable for money. K&N filter costs 4400/- bucks, but the cost of stock filter is only Rs.325/-. I have discussed about free flow airfilters with many users and they said that below 100kmph speed, we cant feel any difference with stock filter. Freeflow airfilter increase air intake but the exhaust rate will be same without change the exhaust system. One of my friend said to get more power from freeflow filter, the chamber has to be modified.

                  In my case, for last few weeks I felt the bike struggles to breath and the power delivery also was not smooth. So I checked the filter during my third service and found it in very bad condition. At that time there was not filter in stock, so they cleaned it and out it back. Yesterday they got new filter and I went there and replaced. It is better to check the condition of the filter at periodic intervals, even the recommendation for changing is 16000kms. After replacement, I can feel the difference. Is it smoother than before and the exhaust sound also become more sporty.

                  The filter is located under the fuel tank. To change it, you have to remove the side panels and the fiber beading between tank and panel. Then there are two screws near the igntion has to be removed to move up the tank. Under the tank, you can see a black cover and you have to remove the screws of that. Then you can take out the airfilter element.


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                  From last week some kind of burning smell was coming from the space between handle bar and side panel, after 5-10 mins ride. I thought there was some electrical loose contacts. But then I found that the coolant level was very low. Yesterday I topped up the coolant also and now there is no such smell. So you guys pls. check the coolant level and top up if required .....
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                  • Originally posted by jomindolges View Post
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                    Man, that was some serious pictures. Really, thanks for those.
                    Gave a clear idea.

                    Though, one more doubt. When the front seat is removed, I could see the tank attached to a long bolt. Do we have to remove that??
                    And when moving the tank upwards to this far, wont the fuel connections will be disconnected??
                    My guess is that, those two black pipes going down from the rear end on the side the man is standing, are those the fuel lines?
                    The limiter kicks in @11,500 rpm just within a second after the first shift..And, that's where the fun begins !! ;)

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                    • Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post
                      Man, that was some serious pictures. Really, thanks for those.
                      Gave a clear idea.

                      Though, one more doubt. When the front seat is removed, I could see the tank attached to a long bolt. Do we have to remove that??
                      And when moving the tank upwards to this far, wont the fuel connections will be disconnected??
                      My guess is that, those two black pipes going down from the rear end on the side the man is standing, are those the fuel lines?

                      It is not required to remove that long bolt . It will hold the tank while moving up. You have to disconnect the fuel pipe by pulling it backward, because it s not much long. After complete the work, reconnect the pipe. 10-15 mins is required to remove the side panels. Rest of the works are easy.
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                      • Im astounded by the engineering knowledge of Mr.Punarvasu. yea man, u know too much about the 150R 's cons and point out with details. but u never ponted out the pros of the bike with details.

                        Even the R15 owners talk exactly wat the bike can and cannot do. Im sure you are not a owner of 150r and a hater of Honda

                        here most owners of the bike dont dwelve into the theoritical knowledge before riding the bike. they just want to practically enjoy (that's what most owners do) the bike. And practical is always different from theoretical. That's why they do testing.


                        P.S: You are the sole reason this thread had been closed TWICE!
                        Last edited by mulli84; 02-09-2013, 06:24 PM.
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                          Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to,
                          although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked,

                          'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.'

                          People who speak disparagingly of things that they cannot attain
                          would do well to apply this story to themselves

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                          • Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                            If I remember correctly, the credit goes to PSRji. Am I not I correct?
                            Nope, the credit goes to the "Do It Yourself Group" cause they were the one's who educated me about FI's, other than that every single thing I know about ICE's that run on CDI and Carb, I got from PSR Sir.
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                            • Originally posted by Lenov View Post


                              2) At 90kmph the bike is at 6500rpm in 6th gear. As for the smoothness of the engine, it is a fact. You will not feel any (very very less) vibrations till around 9500rpm. The engine does not hesitate to rev beyond 8000rpm. Especially on level road. All the owners here will agree that sometimes you dont even realise when your near 11000 rpm when your pushing the bike. I only realise it because at 11000rpm the exhaust note changes considerably. As for where this bike can be used at this speed, il only say that those who want will use it. They may or may not be endangering their lives, but it can be done.

                              10 mins before i took the bike to 97kmph speed to check this statement and the tacho reading was just above 6.5k ... In that speed also the bike was 100% under my control eventhough the condition of the road was not that much good ... I am riding this since last april ... Till now I didn't face any problem with the handling or breaks ...
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                              • I have been using CBR150R for last 6 months.
                                As I stated earlier, we have 3 bikes for our 3 brothers.
                                R15, CBR150R, 200NS

                                Many of them talking about high RPM of CBR150
                                I don't know the practical side of this
                                Please dont compare between these bikes
                                they have their own personalily
                                I said it many days ago

                                & I think, by your reviews, I am the only owner of those thee bikes, right?
                                I know every pro & cons of these bikes

                                Surely, I can said under performance factor you cant compare CBR with R15 or 200NS
                                You will understand after test driving of these bikes

                                I dont know about dohc,sohc, closed loop, pgmfi, fi ...etc
                                200MS gives me 43 avereage
                                CBR150R - 39 average
                                R15 - 35 average
                                Same riding conditions

                                & 200NS is best for city driving
                                CBR150R is best for long highway driving
                                R15 is best for highway racing

                                pinion is comfortable with both R15 & CBR150R

                                Braking is perfect with both R15 & 200NS

                                Personally I like CBR for highway & 200NS for city driving
                                both are different categories

                                one more thing,
                                everybody says about your bikes top speed !!!!
                                How many people does full throttle biking ???
                                below 80 KM/hr is your average, right?
                                I think more than 90% of our members are from India.

                                for 200NS above 100 km is not stable at all
                                because they built it as a city bike & not a highway racer
                                & if you want, it will go over 150 km/hr (like flying)
                                Last edited by spknair; 02-10-2013, 01:45 AM.
                                I wish if I am the only rider in roads !!!!!
                                So I can red line my bike all the time


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