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[QUOTE=jayjoshi001;841737]dohc is anyday better than sohc in terms of efficiency and power delivery ..Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Postpeople have even got 60kmpl from duke .. tankfull method[/QUOTE
in theory an identical fi engine will always be more efficient than an carburetted one.also an sohc will provide better fe and power/torque than its dohc counterpart. triple spark plug is not at all an marketing gimmik but at the the time it isn't a breakthrough either! duke gives a highly variable fe depending on riding conditions. according to my experiments ns gives better fe than duke at low rpms' and at higher rpms fe is almost same. although i think duke gives a bit higher although its negligibly small!
in dohc , there is one cam for 2 intake valves and 1 cam for 2 exhaust valves so the spark plug can be placed in the middle and two cams functioning seperately means that it can do more work at a time ..both cams are placed below their intake and exhaust valves .. this leaves place in the middle for placement of spark plug..
in sohc , there in one centrally placed cam which has to operate both pairs of intake and exhaust valves .. the cam is placed in the middle which means that there is no optimum position for spark plug .. to counter this problem , bajaj made triple spark tech and placed spark plugs in offset positions ..
FI is more precise when compared to carb ..
according to tech , fi is more efficient than carb ...
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here it is... Engine Running In- Comprehensive Details [What, Why & How] | Bike Chronicles of India .. say thanks to PayengOriginally posted by stephencherian View PostSomeone had posted a link related to what to do and what not to do in run-in periods,....I searched the thread again,but did not find it. Please repost that link ...THANKS
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Want to comment on triple spark plug technology here. The third spark plug is to come into play when engine revvs beyond certain rpm (guess 6K). It was introduced to make sure all fuel is burnt in combustion chamber. This was done to hit 2 stones.Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
dohc is anyday better than sohc in terms of efficiency and power delivery ..
in dohc , there is one cam for 2 intake valves and 1 cam for 2 exhaust valves so the spark plug can be placed in the middle and two cams functioning seperately means that it can do more work at a time ..both cams are placed below their
intake and exhaust valves .. this leaves place in the middle for placement of spark plug..
in sohc , there in one centrally placed cam which has to operate both pairs of intake and exhaust valves .. the cam is placed in the middle which means that there is no optimum position for spark plug .. to counter this problem , bajaj
made triple spark tech and placed spark plugs in offset positions ..
FI is more precise when compared to carb ..
according to tech , fi is more efficient than carb ...
1. Compensate for absence of FI.
2. Make catcon redundant (not sure if its removed to cut cost).
I don't have any link to support these points as I came across them randomly and felt the need to share it here.
@Rohan200ns
I remember you posted about top end of P220 once using mobile GPS and got shocking fgures. Well, I am not surprised as mobiles don't contact GPS satellite drectly. Instead they cnotact servers using internet and get the co-ordinates. So chances of errors are high. I reccommend you to use dedicated GPS dvices(such as prvided by mapmyindia) to know true speed.
I did tankful when I got delivery. Considering 10L as a non reserve capacity & 40 kmpl supposed fig, I should run out of fuel at 400 Kms. The fact is, I have already crossed 400 Kms and there are still 3 bars left on fuel gauge. OfOriginally posted by demonbiker View Postcurious from the words of the owners as well as the dealers.. is 58kmpl milage jus a random quote by bajaj for pulsar 200ns?? 40kmpl seems to put at par with the baby duke but why the extra effort for a triple
spark technology if not for better FE from the duke atlest.. for a comparison.???
course I had very little (say 10%) run in city. Most of my rides were highway ones and during the nights. I did take a precaution to not to cross ~65 (45 in 6th gear will surely lug the engine).
But I have got problems to report as well. Yesterday all of a sudden I heard a weird sound which came from engine. It was not heard before. When reached home, removed helmet and revved the engine, only to get a shock. It was the same
noise when your tappets are loose or timing chain setting is bad. Was disheartened, but I know after all its a machine. I had a ride plan today and started contemplating whether to go or not. Later, went ahead as tappet noise issue is
not a serious one. I guess this can be solved easily.
During the ride, I never crossed 60 (i.e. 4K in 6th gear). All was fine till I started my reverse journey. On my way back, I felt engine was feeling harsh in 5th gear & 6th gear. Also, acceleration had taken a hit and revvs were not
building fast. Let me tell you beforehand that I never rode her for more than 50 Kms a stretch. There were no signs of heating though. But as I reached Mumbai, engine heated up for the first time ever. It was negligible and so I am not
bothered about it. Engine loosing smoothness and not revving freely could be engine oil issue. I remember same happened with ZMA and when engine oil was changed, it was all fine.
Also, I heard that "khat" sound whenever front suspension would dive down or would jump back up. I remember another owner had reported this issue. Will have to dig in more to find out solution. But if any one can quote that post, I will
be really thankful.
All the while during the long ride today, I never felt uncomfortable. My friends on FZ & FAZer were stretching their legs to get some comfort. This brought smile on my face
.
It being new & yellow, a lot of people were attracted and asked price as well. This makes my grin grow even bigger. One of such people I came across would not believe Pulsar 200 NS exists. He was so shocked to see it and would not
believe its existence. He always thought I had modified my old pulsar in to this. I gave up finally. I also remember some mechanics praising its design and technology. One of them even challenged his friend to find out exhaust which
he could not and was really surprised and confused that how could a bike not have an exhuast. There are many such stories.
I have my first service due now and would report all my problems and observations there. Lets hope everything is sorted out. Below are some of the negatives I feel about the bike.
1. Saddle height. Its high and can create issue for a person with 5.9" as well.
2. Weight. At times it becomes dificult to manage somethings.
3. Bike swaying to left. I know people would ask WTH one would want to leave hands? But to be frank, does that mean a manufacturer can get away with this fault? From me, asnwer is certainly a big NO.
4. Engine kill switch kills spoodo power as well. (something which I can live witt).
5. Switch quaity is good but there can be usability issues (e.g. left side switches in-operable sometimes).The Zmaniac - 2 wheeled enthusiast
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I do not own a P200NS but a P220F. Sadly, the NS will not be here until second half of 2013Originally posted by jayjoshi001 View Postgoogle also says motul 3000 is the best available here! thanks dude! btw how many kms have u clocked ?
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@Zmaniac, nice, to the point review.Originally posted by The Zmaniac View PostI did tankful when I got delivery.
But I have got problems to report as well.
Also, I heard that "khat" sound whenever front suspension would dive down or would jump back up. I remember another owner had reported this issue. Will have to dig in more to find out solution. But if any one can quote that post, I will
be really thankful.
I have my first service due now and would report all my problems and observations there. Lets hope everything is sorted out. Below are some of the negatives I feel about the bike.
1. Saddle height. Its high and can create issue for a person with 5.9" as well.
3. Bike swaying to left. I know people would ask WTH one would want to leave hands? But to be frank, does that mean a manufacturer can get away with this fault? From me, asnwer is certainly a big NO.
Good to see you mention the negetives as well, and not go only by emotions.
The "Khat" noise that you mentioned is serious, if it comes from front forks.
The issue was reported by @Faffy and as I remember, his front forks were replaced during the 1st service. Please check.
about saddle height; I'm 5.9" as well, but I guess will manage.
Weight issue wont bother u much as time passes, and u get used to the weight/ bike.
About, bike swaying, it also depends on your body balance as well. Dont even bother about it, as it will never effect your riding.
Do follow up with all the issues during your service, and keep us updated.
Also, can u please tell about your feel on the low end torque of the bike??sigpicRelationships change, evolve, and it goes deep.
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very neat and unbiased review.. Problems which you are facing are exactlx same as duke... Dont worry bajaj will rectify those...Originally posted by The Zmaniac View PostWant to comment on triple spark plug technology here. The third spark plug is to come into play when engine revvs beyond certain rpm (guess 6K). It was introduced to make sure all fuel is burnt in combustion chamber. This was done to hit 2 stones.
1. Compensate for absence of FI.
2. Make catcon redundant (not sure if its removed to cut cost).
I don't have any link to support these points as I came across them randomly and felt the need to share it here.
@Rohan200ns
I remember you posted about top end of P220 once using mobile GPS and got shocking fgures. Well, I am not surprised as mobiles don't contact GPS satellite drectly. Instead they cnotact servers using internet and get the co-ordinates. So chances of errors are high. I reccommend you to use dedicated GPS dvices(such as prvided by mapmyindia) to know true speed.
I did tankful when I got delivery. Considering 10L as a non reserve capacity & 40 kmpl supposed fig, I should run out of fuel at 400 Kms. The fact is, I have already crossed 400 Kms and there are still 3 bars left on fuel gauge. Of
course I had very little (say 10%) run in city. Most of my rides were highway ones and during the nights. I did take a precaution to not to cross ~65 (45 in 6th gear will surely lug the engine).
But I have got problems to report as well. Yesterday all of a sudden I heard a weird sound which came from engine. It was not heard before. When reached home, removed helmet and revved the engine, only to get a shock. It was the same
noise when your tappets are loose or timing chain setting is bad. Was disheartened, but I know after all its a machine. I had a ride plan today and started contemplating whether to go or not. Later, went ahead as tappet noise issue is
not a serious one. I guess this can be solved easily.
During the ride, I never crossed 60 (i.e. 4K in 6th gear). All was fine till I started my reverse journey. On my way back, I felt engine was feeling harsh in 5th gear & 6th gear. Also, acceleration had taken a hit and revvs were not
building fast. Let me tell you beforehand that I never rode her for more than 50 Kms a stretch. There were no signs of heating though. But as I reached Mumbai, engine heated up for the first time ever. It was negligible and so I am not
bothered about it. Engine loosing smoothness and not revving freely could be engine oil issue. I remember same happened with ZMA and when engine oil was changed, it was all fine.
Also, I heard that "khat" sound whenever front suspension would dive down or would jump back up. I remember another owner had reported this issue. Will have to dig in more to find out solution. But if any one can quote that post, I will
be really thankful.
All the while during the long ride today, I never felt uncomfortable. My friends on FZ & FAZer were stretching their legs to get some comfort. This brought smile on my face
.
It being new & yellow, a lot of people were attracted and asked price as well. This makes my grin grow even bigger. One of such people I came across would not believe Pulsar 200 NS exists. He was so shocked to see it and would not
believe its existence. He always thought I had modified my old pulsar in to this. I gave up finally. I also remember some mechanics praising its design and technology. One of them even challenged his friend to find out exhaust which
he could not and was really surprised and confused that how could a bike not have an exhuast. There are many such stories.
I have my first service due now and would report all my problems and observations there. Lets hope everything is sorted out. Below are some of the negatives I feel about the bike.
1. Saddle height. Its high and can create issue for a person with 5.9" as well.
2. Weight. At times it becomes dificult to manage somethings.
3. Bike swaying to left. I know people would ask WTH one would want to leave hands? But to be frank, does that mean a manufacturer can get away with this fault? From me, asnwer is certainly a big NO.
4. Engine kill switch kills spoodo power as well. (something which I can live witt).
5. Switch quaity is good but there can be usability issues (e.g. left side switches in-operable sometimes).This Tail Is Japani Tail (spell as you like)
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Don't go by one off report, if you rip in city traffic or go above 100 kmph you will most likely to get 19-25 kmpl for Duke, just saw that in a poll. If you thinking of getting mileage of 50-60kmpl, then Duke or NS is not the bike.Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Postpeople have even got 60kmpl from duke .. tankfull method---------------------
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Zen(2000)(Sold), RX-100(Sold)
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Well, thats what the dealer said. But he said he wasnt too sure... Will let you know once he gives me exact pricing details.Originally posted by twinblades View PostI thought it shouldn't be more than Bangalore. Its about 1,00,500 as per show rooms here in bangalore( without accessories).
Whats with everyone going for the launch ceremony?Originally posted by ajai5777 View PostI am also going to the launch ceremony @ Dreams hotel vytila.
Isnt it supposed to be an invite-only event?
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nice review .. dont wait till service to get those issues sorted .. just get it rectified ASAP...Originally posted by The Zmaniac View PostWant to comment on triple spark plug technology here. The third spark plug is to come into play when engine revvs beyond certain rpm (guess 6K). It was introduced to make sure all fuel is burnt in combustion chamber. This was done to hit 2 stones.
1. Compensate for absence of FI.
2. Make catcon redundant (not sure if its removed to cut cost).
you are right but still dohc does more efficient work on opening and closing both intake and exhaust valves ..
I don't have any link to support these points as I came across them randomly and felt the need to share it here.
@Rohan200ns
I remember you posted about top end of P220 once using mobile GPS and got shocking fgures. Well, I am not surprised as mobiles don't contact GPS satellite drectly. Instead they cnotact servers using internet and get the co-ordinates. So chances of errors are high. I reccommend you to use dedicated GPS dvices(such as prvided by mapmyindia) to know true speed.
i shall try it out
I did tankful when I got delivery. Considering 10L as a non reserve capacity & 40 kmpl supposed fig, I should run out of fuel at 400 Kms. The fact is, I have already crossed 400 Kms and there are still 3 bars left on fuel gauge. Of
course I had very little (say 10%) run in city. Most of my rides were highway ones and during the nights. I did take a precaution to not to cross ~65 (45 in 6th gear will surely lug the engine).
But I have got problems to report as well. Yesterday all of a sudden I heard a weird sound which came from engine. It was not heard before. When reached home, removed helmet and revved the engine, only to get a shock. It was the same
noise when your tappets are loose or timing chain setting is bad. Was disheartened, but I know after all its a machine. I had a ride plan today and started contemplating whether to go or not. Later, went ahead as tappet noise issue is
not a serious one. I guess this can be solved easily.
During the ride, I never crossed 60 (i.e. 4K in 6th gear). All was fine till I started my reverse journey. On my way back, I felt engine was feeling harsh in 5th gear & 6th gear. Also, acceleration had taken a hit and revvs were not
building fast. Let me tell you beforehand that I never rode her for more than 50 Kms a stretch. There were no signs of heating though. But as I reached Mumbai, engine heated up for the first time ever. It was negligible and so I am not
bothered about it. Engine loosing smoothness and not revving freely could be engine oil issue. I remember same happened with ZMA and when engine oil was changed, it was all fine.
Also, I heard that "khat" sound whenever front suspension would dive down or would jump back up. I remember another owner had reported this issue. Will have to dig in more to find out solution. But if any one can quote that post, I will
be really thankful.
All the while during the long ride today, I never felt uncomfortable. My friends on FZ & FAZer were stretching their legs to get some comfort. This brought smile on my face
.
It being new & yellow, a lot of people were attracted and asked price as well. This makes my grin grow even bigger. One of such people I came across would not believe Pulsar 200 NS exists. He was so shocked to see it and would not
believe its existence. He always thought I had modified my old pulsar in to this. I gave up finally. I also remember some mechanics praising its design and technology. One of them even challenged his friend to find out exhaust which
he could not and was really surprised and confused that how could a bike not have an exhuast. There are many such stories.
I have my first service due now and would report all my problems and observations there. Lets hope everything is sorted out. Below are some of the negatives I feel about the bike.
1. Saddle height. Its high and can create issue for a person with 5.9" as well.
2. Weight. At times it becomes dificult to manage somethings.
3. Bike swaying to left. I know people would ask WTH one would want to leave hands? But to be frank, does that mean a manufacturer can get away with this fault? From me, asnwer is certainly a big NO.
4. Engine kill switch kills spoodo power as well. (something which I can live witt).
5. Switch quaity is good but there can be usability issues (e.g. left side switches in-operable sometimes).
- that KHAT sound is from cone set .. slight tightening and adjustment will make it perfect
- did u come across any misfire ?
- all issues are minor ones and will be rectified .. same issues as duke ... dukes had same issues in initial stages but all dukes from june batch onwards are troublefree .. verified it by contacting many dukers ..
- and about bike swaying to the left ,,, ask the svc people to check the wheel balncing.. place the bike on main stand and keep the handle straight .. see if the handle slowly turns towards left ..
Originally posted by shamanthnv View PostDon't go by one off report, if you rip in city traffic or go above 100 kmph you will most likely to get 19-25 kmpl for Duke, just saw that in a poll. If you thinking of getting mileage of 50-60kmpl, then Duke or NS is not the bike.
yes i know .. duke is meant to be ridden hard and despite that , people are getting around 35 ... 60 is extreme but i just meant that it is possible ... it will most probably vary between 35-45 under right mix of sane riding + insane riding ...
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my height is 5'5 what will i doOriginally posted by Shibadip View Post@Zmaniac, nice, to the point review.
Good to see you mention the negetives as well, and not go only by emotions.
The "Khat" noise that you mentioned is serious, if it comes from front forks.
The issue was reported by @Faffy and as I remember, his front forks were replaced during the 1st service. Please check.
about saddle height; I'm 5.9" as well, but I guess will manage.
Weight issue wont bother u much as time passes, and u get used to the weight/ bike.
About, bike swaying, it also depends on your body balance as well. Dont even bother about it, as it will never effect your riding.
Do follow up with all the issues during your service, and keep us updated.
Also, can u please tell about your feel on the low end torque of the bike??
, i am very desperate for this bike
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me being 5.10" also did have trouble sitting on the bike... Its not the height that trouble you much, its the width of the sead...your thighs rests half on the seat and you have to literally bend ur @$$ to put your feet down. Very irritating.. The duke rider seat is just so perfect for skinny guys like me... Though the bike is lighter than 220, i did feel the weight of the bike to be same and sometimes even more than the 220 because of the high seating position.... God knows why bajaj made the seat so wide and high and long...Originally posted by Shibadip View Post@Zmaniac, nice, to the point review.
Good to see you mention the negetives as well, and not go only by emotions.
The "Khat" noise that you mentioned is serious, if it comes from front forks.
The issue was reported by @Faffy and as I remember, his front forks were replaced during the 1st service. Please check.
about saddle height; I'm 5.9" as well, but I guess will manage.
Weight issue wont bother u much as time passes, and u get used to the weight/ bike.
About, bike swaying, it also depends on your body balance as well. Dont even bother about it, as it will never effect your riding.
Do follow up with all the issues during your service, and keep us updated.
Also, can u please tell about your feel on the low end torque of the bike??This Tail Is Japani Tail (spell as you like)
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First Service Done - Know NS from Inside
Hi Frnds,
Its going to be a long post with lot of pictures. Well to get started, I reached for service at 451 kms of reading. I had in mind that I will be getting some premium treatment but it was all to my surprise. They said this is the first NS which was going to be serviced there. But I found, most of the people had no idea about the bike or what needs to be done for the first service. The guy had being given the training, but he had no hands on experience. The bolts which are used in the tank to tight, they didn't had proper tools to open it even. Then they called the showroom guys and got the proper tool set which was then used to open up the tank. I had reached @ 8 am and already it was 12:30 and they had just managed to open up my tank cover.
Look of the bike without seat


Look of the bike without Tank Cover

Petrol Tank with pads to minimize vibrations and noise

Air filter Chamber



So, now lets continue with my exp. Shall we !!!
They earlier said, cooltant will be costing 200 Rs when I was making my job card. But later they said, you don't require coolant. When I checked the coolant level it was, just a bit above MIN mark. So, I insisted to do a top up. I had to meet all through the manager to convince them, then the real issue came out. They actually didn't had the coolant. I was so upset, I had some arguement with people there. So, they said, they will get it and then, it was brought from somewhere and the top-up was done. It was not over there. Pics time.
Coolant Reservoir and Expansion Cap

Engine Oil Drain Screw

So, thanks to Chintan and other members who had posted what all things were carried out in first service, I knew the oil filter had to be replaced. Is it true friends as I had seen people posting Rs 74 for it ? But, these guys didn't knew this at all. They read my manual again and again, still they were not convinced. They didn't had the oil filter too. And still I'm running on the initial filter. They had ordered the stock and said, we will give you a call when we receive it. In Delhi, they don't have the main stand too. I again had to quarrel over this issue. It was @4 pm now and I was tired from these people.
Issues which I had were,
A. When i drag my bike just a few meters, without engine on it used to make noise. - thanks a lot the people there, atleast they managed to find it and rectfied the same. It was the sound coming from my front and back disk pads and also the rear tyre hugger was loosly fitted.
B. Tuning problem, as I have reported earlier also. It was rectified.
Radiator Fans

Battery & Charger



Now, I thought the bad part was over and I will get my bike washed and new shiny again. But alas, it changed soon. The Bajaj logo located at the side of the engine peeled off from just one pressure of water while cleaning which was then pasted by Fevi Quick.
Guys, this on seriously I was not expecting. After cleaning, the bike was being polished and I took a note that the pipe which originated from the engine and later joins in the exhaust, at the head - the paint was coming out. Its just 9 days. I said the same to floor manager, he then instructed his labour for a touch up with black paint. This was not at all I would have expected from a premium product and moreover the reason given, the pipe must would have been hot and you would have poured water for cleaning. So, the paint had peeled off from the pipe. Man, it rainy season - who could expain it to them. I thought I was having a bad day. So, I just remained silent this time for change. I got a taflon coating on the bike and paid the price and went off.

Guys, I had to fight all day long to get my bike properly serviced and I left the service station and @ 6 pm. 10 hrs is the time they took to give my bike the first service. Its speaks a lot in itself. Guys, please ensure that service guys give the best which your bike can get and try not to be the first one with the bike to get it serviced at any station. Kidding....
Some one has to be.....
Please let me know whether they change the oil filter or just clean it. Owners who got thier service done, just let me know.Always Wear Your Helmets and Ride Safe
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Thanks & Regards
Ashwini
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@aswin, Sorry to heard about your Harrasments....
The service guys must get their knowledge base updated, and should have worked on some test mules, rather than experimenting on owners bikes!!!
BTE, @chintan,@rocketjack did get their oilfilters replaced in teir 1st service.
BTW,thanks for more naked pics of the naked beast!!!!!
but are you allowed to be present in front while servicing?? Here in kol, they always disallow me!!sigpicRelationships change, evolve, and it goes deep.
Only thing I can say - "The storm is coming"
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We havent seen the bike in flesh also they are providing facility to test drive 200NS and duke. It will take some more days for the vehicles to reach showrooms. Thats why I am going.After seeing them in flesh I can confirm the colour.Originally posted by Xennai_Warrior View Post
Whats with everyone going for the launch ceremony?
Isnt it supposed to be an invite-only event?
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