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Not to play soil sport but if you read the reviews or the ownership experience here aswell as team bhp RC does not come close to Ninja in quality. All the owners have mentioned that it rattles alot right from day one. Even after the first service it rattles. So no, RC does not have as good quality as NinjaOriginally posted by Stani Emerson John View PostActually ownership threads on the RC seems to be telling quite a different story about it. The bike seems to be getting much better as the miles go higher.refinement improves after the first service ( to good levels )
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[/QUOTE]Despite being down on power it has a top end whack which is not much higher and neither usable for both bikes on our roads. Mid range is important and that's where the RC shines too.
The only real downside to the RC compared to the Ninja is in its touring inability. So if that and the small refinements with twin cylinder advantage is worth 2 lakhs more , you could probably still get the Ninja but RC has definitely just redefined VFM and it's not just with Power !![/QUOTE]
Again sorry to be the bearer of the bad news but no, RC won't 'kill) Ninja on track. All the reviews i have seen RC/Duke is quicker at the start but once in mid range and at the top range Ninja catches up and all of them say in the long run it will leave RC behind. On a track, a vehicle is used to its best potential which means both the bikes will reach their top ends and that is when Ninja will defeat RC. So no RC wont be killing anything.
You say the top whack is not usable and hence should not be considered. RC is not a usable daily commute bike while Ninja is, we are still considering RC are we not? Top whack does come into playDare to enter the uncharted territories!
Expand your horizons.
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Anyone know the price of oem cone set (steering column bearing) price?Originally posted by vineeth9188 View PostI need to replace my cone set. The service centre guys told me that it will take at least one month for them to get the parts is there any alternative available in the market. I want to change it now and after the parts come at the service centre I will replace it with that. Any cheap alternative
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Guys,
There is a used ninja 2013 300r in Hyderabad. Owner is quoting 2.8 lakhs. Is it a good deal ?
Tomorrow we are meeting at begumpet service center.
Please list the checks that should be carried out before purchasing.
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Originally posted by Reinhard_Hyd View PostGuys,
There is a used ninja 2013 300r in Hyderabad. Owner is quoting 2.8 lakhs. Is it a good deal ?
Tomorrow we are meeting at begumpet service center.
Please list the checks that should be carried out before purchasing.
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Price is definitely vfm but check the service history of the bike and generally inspect every nook and cranny for crash damage. Also ride the bike to find out how smooth it is and compare it if possible with other ninja 300's. That should suffice.
Also do check the bikes license plate number on rto site to see if it has any challans and cases on it. These bikes are usually very abused so due dilligence is needed.
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Hi Guys,
Few Days Back accidentally i dropped my bike to the right side. My Bikes Right Faring, Foot Rest Silencer Muffler Got very Bad Scratches. so now I am planning to put that on insurance and change it. So now my Question is instead of changing my muffler i am planning to Go for a after market Slip-on's. I have narrowed down to MGP Growler but my worry is, I saw a KTM Duke 390 fitted with the same, the cylinder heads was leaking a lot. I asked the mechanic he told me because of Back Pressure it is Leaking. But some how i am not Convinced with that. what is this Back Pressure. Does any one have any idea ?
Is there any harm to the engine if i change to Slip-on's. will the bike scream a Lot?. What will happen to the performance? Will it increase?
Thanks in Advance.A next door biker..
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Originally posted by vivek.n View PostHi Guys,
Few Days Back accidentally i dropped my bike to the right side. My Bikes Right Faring, Foot Rest Silencer Muffler Got very Bad Scratches. so now I am planning to put that on insurance and change it. So now my Question is instead of changing my muffler i am planning to Go for a after market Slip-on's. I have narrowed down to MGP Growler but my worry is, I saw a KTM Duke 390 fitted with the same, the cylinder heads was leaking a lot. I asked the mechanic he told me because of Back Pressure it is Leaking. But some how i am not Convinced with that. what is this Back Pressure. Does any one have any idea ?
Is there any harm to the engine if i change to Slip-on's. will the bike scream a Lot?. What will happen to the performance? Will it increase?
Thanks in Advance.
Let me tell you something about ktms. The cylinder head leaks on all 2014 ktms, it has to do with bad oil seals not back pressure. And frankly back pressure is higher on stock than on slip on as a slip on would be free flow type as opposed to the stock which will be restricted flow for meeting emmission norms. (correct me if I'm wrong).
With a slip on exhaust however, you'll have to go in for an ecu remap. Otherwise you risk damaging the engine. My suggestion would be to first check on the internet which aftermarket exhausts are endorsed by the company. For the ktms its akrapovic slip on which comes pre mapped for the ktm engines. This way you can install the exhaust without worries and the ecu can adjust itself without outside influence (modding). Mileage will also not drop by much with these but expect an aftermarket exhaust to be louder than stock.
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HilariousOriginally posted by vivek.n View PostHi Guys,
Few Days Back accidentally i dropped my bike to the right side. My Bikes Right Faring, Foot Rest Silencer Muffler Got very Bad Scratches. so now I am planning to put that on insurance and change it. So now my Question is instead of changing my muffler i am planning to Go for a after market Slip-on's. I have narrowed down to MGP Growler but my worry is, I saw a KTM Duke 390 fitted with the same, the cylinder heads was leaking a lot. I asked the mechanic he told me because of Back Pressure it is Leaking. But some how i am not Convinced with that. what is this Back Pressure. Does any one have any idea ?
Is there any harm to the engine if i change to Slip-on's. will the bike scream a Lot?. What will happen to the performance? Will it increase?
Thanks in Advance.
.... God save us and our machines from these self appointed 'mechanics'. So lets clear your doubts:
As a general rule when use only a slip on it makes no difference or very minuscule difference to performance. Most people use a slip on for the 'sound' factor. That it saves a bit of weight is another reason that people may use it. And of course there are the looks which has poser value.
Now for the back pressure part of the story; in one word; Bull!!! Without going into a too technical explanation, back pressure is created when exhaust gases are not allowed to flow freely through the exhaust system. The restriction in the exhaust system creates pressure which restrict exhaust gases from being scavenged from the cylinder after the combustion phase and during the exhaust phase.
By adding a slip on you are not going to create any additional restriction in the exhaust system. On the contrary, depending upon the slip on being used you are creating less restriction so the question of more back pressure than stock exhaust system does not arise. So Nyet, Nein, Hayir; a slip on is not going to add back pressure to the current exhaust system.
Now coming to your choice of MGP Growler; as the word suggest it growls. It is extremely loud and makes riding difficult after 15 to 20 minutes riding. Your ears will ring and there is every chance that you will be pulled up by every cop in your area. I know of at least 3 guys with N300s who changed back to stock or another make of slip on after having used it for not more than a week. Heck, one changed it within 2 days of installing it.
I would advice you to buy a good quality slip on with a DB insert. There are some very good makes like LV, TBR, Yoshimura.Last edited by abhimanyu31; 12-01-2014, 04:15 PM.Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.
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Thanks Balgi for the infoOriginally posted by Balgi View PostLet me tell you something about ktms. The cylinder head leaks on all 2014 ktms, it has to do with bad oil seals not back pressure. And frankly back pressure is higher on stock than on slip on as a slip on would be free flow type as opposed to the stock which will be restricted flow for meeting emmission norms. (correct me if I'm wrong).
With a slip on exhaust however, you'll have to go in for an ecu remap. Otherwise you risk damaging the engine. My suggestion would be to first check on the internet which aftermarket exhausts are endorsed by the company. For the ktms its akrapovic slip on which comes pre mapped for the ktm engines. This way you can install the exhaust without worries and the ecu can adjust itself without outside influence (modding). Mileage will also not drop by much with these but expect an aftermarket exhaust to be louder than stock.
Thanks Abhimanyu31 for the Detailed Response.Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View PostHilarious
.... God save us and our machines from these self appointed 'mechanics'. So lets clear your doubts:
As a general rule when use only a slip on it makes no difference or very minuscule difference to performance. Most people use a slip on for the 'sound' factor. That it saves a bit of weight is another reason that people may use it. And of course there are the looks which has poser value.
Now for the back pressure part of the story; in one word; Bull!!! Without going into a too technical explanation, back pressure is created when exhaust gases are not allowed to flow freely through the exhaust system. The restriction in the exhaust system creates pressure which restrict exhaust gases from being scavenged from the cylinder after the combustion phase and during the exhaust phase.
By adding a slip on you are not going to create any additional restriction in the exhaust system. On the contrary, depending upon the slip on being used you are creating less restriction so the question of more back pressure than stock exhaust system does not arise. So Nyet, Nein, Hayir; a slip on is not going to add back pressure to the current exhaust system.
Now coming to your choice of MGP Growler; as the word suggest it growls. It is extremely loud and makes riding difficult after 15 to 20 minutes riding. Your ears will ring and there is every chance that you will be pulled up by every cop in your area. I know of at least 3 guys with N300s who changed back to stock or another make of slip on after having used it for not more than a week. Heck, one changed it within 2 days of installing it.
I would advice you to buy a good quality slip on with a DB insert. There are some very good makes like LV, TBR, Yoshimura.
I havent seen a MPG Slip-ons on a Ninja once I Saw a Ninja with akrapovic. With the Videos on youtube and Decibel information a Pack i was not able to make any decision. So better I will stick to the stock Exhaust.
Thanks Guys for the Information.A next door biker..
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Stick with stock exhaust unless 1. You know for sure why you are changing the exhaust for how much power bump etc, alongwith changing air filter n other necessary stuff, or 2. You want to be that obnoxious kid which everyone hates because of a loud farting machine. Seriously, enjoy the stock sound of the twins, any fiddling with the slip ons will result in mostly false ego boost and additional curses from neighbours/passersby.
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One month anniversary report
(Odo: 2600km)
T-minus 360 days: Since my return to India from the motorcycling exile (read as study aboard), I was contemplating an upgrade. I started using my brother's P220 as I couldn't afford an upgrade right away and the 220 catered well for the occasional highway runs but the thirst was still not quenched.
I started looking at possible first hand upgrade options starting with the Triumph Bonneville for it has been (and still is ) one of my all time favorites (Up there with it on the podium are Suzuki Bandit, Honda CB1100 and Thurxton) or look at second hand ZMR/Ninja250r (as sport-touring was something that suits my requirement precisely) as a stop-GAP arrangement.
The more I researched, a new contender got in to make things little more complicated than it already was- Kawasaki Ninja 650. Xbhp ownership of both Bonneville and Ninja (Sachinair) gave me an impression and confirmed by the owners - Bonneville in the long run would be RELATIVELY cheaper to own. But somewhere was not so sold out on the overall package and it was pinching somewhere that, it is not around 5L but a good 7L and climbing upwards every quarter.
In-parallel, as I was researching about owning a Ninja250, 300 got my attention. One reason: Second hand Ninja 250r (with 20k+ on the odo) costed upwards of INR 2L and that was something I was never comfortable with as IMO, it is slightly higher and somewhere I did not want to spend 2L on a second. So the more I read, the more I saw and the more I thought
, I realized, at this moment, I need to let go of the dream(Bonneville) for the moment and settle for something that would not hinder my usage from a cost of ownership perspective (Ninja650 and Bonneville both somewhere fell into slightly uncomfortable cost of ownership bracket personally).
So, now I started looking for something that would be able to do great speeds/distance on the highway without a sweat. Rumour were all running around about Ef-6n/CBR650F/CBR500/ but considering the free times available on the horizon and other factors in the personal front, I just couldnt wait for something that was not even confirmed. (The day before I booked Ninja 300, Ef-6n and Z250 were announced but the each at its price point were not making a convincing case)
So, I Inquired about Ninja 300 at the nearest showroom , booked the followed week and got the Bike delivered 10 days later with a lot of drama in-between (which in a nut shell is how a customer is treated irrespective of if he comes to buy a Splendor/Pulsar/Unicorn/Duke/Harley/StreetTriple/Ninja etc etc...our dealers 9/10 are not good at meeting , forget exceeding, customer expectations at any level). Aviorp was helpful in giving some thoughts on his own ownership experience which confirmed a lot of thoughts. Anyhow
T-minus 30 days: Got the bike delivered finally on 30 Oct 2014.

So, with a small trip planned in a week (6-9 Nov 2014), a trip whose destination was fixed to mark a decade long of riding. Everything had also started to fall into place at work for me to take those 2 days off. I had a target in sight - finish 800 kms - get the first service done and then do the trip .I knew I had to settle for a painful initial leg of the trip and reap the benefits on my return. So the next weekend, I spent more time on the saddle doing trips in and around Bangalore as I had to get used to bike and everything about it (coming from a P220). Got the first service done at around 700+ kms (around INR 4k charge) and took the bike to GOA.

Hubli-Karwar Highway

Near Cabo-de-Rama fort, South Goa

Concluding shot before return (Total trip distance: 1200+kms spread over 2 days)
Touring impression: I am 5ft9in and fairly well built and for this config
- It is very a comfortable bike to tour. Gives good range, does good speeds,munches mile without sweat, no vibrations across the rev range. A small compromise was pillion comfort (nothing shocking there of-course) but if ridden with good throttle modulation, 2-up upto 200kms (3.5 hours of saddle time) on a decent highway should be just about doable. Suspension is not too hard or too soft in its stock set-up and I have not yet fiddled with it.
So, far I do not have much to complain. Will keep you guys posted on more of the ownership experience.
Mods: Rim tape (Installed)- ProGrip Tankpad (installed)- Radiator Guard (planned)- Frame slider (planned).
Mileage: 28-30 kmpl
Some pics to conclude this experience post (for the moment)



Last edited by roshan3440; 12-27-2014, 02:15 PM. Reason: Mileage revised post run-in (Previously 25-28kmpl)tour-master on exile
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Re: Kawasaki Ninja 300 Ownership Experience
Roshan3440,
Are there any changes for 2015 model ?
I am planning to take one, when enquired with dealer- he said new model is coming with Dunlop tires with better grip than iirc and longevity till 30k kms.
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Originally posted by Reinhard_Hyd View PostRoshan3440,
Are there any changes for 2015 model ?
I am planning to take one, when enquired with dealer- he said new model is coming with Dunlop tires with better grip than iirc and longevity till 30k kms.
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In Bangalore, they cannot confirm on Dunlop tyres but the new bikes come with white ninja logo (on tank) of green bike and vice versa! YUCK!!Regardless, Life shall go on.
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I thought so too as 2015 model elsewhere in the world comes with Dunlop. But turned out it was largely the Ninja Logo Color scheme on the tank for INDIAOriginally posted by Reinhard_Hyd View PostRoshan3440,
Are there any changes for 2015 model ?
I am planning to take one, when enquired with dealer- he said new model is coming with Dunlop tires with better grip than iirc and longevity till 30k kms.
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Not a big fan of the Green Ninja logo on the White bike either but it is nowhere close to a deal-breaker. I did not notice the White Logo on Green tank either.Originally posted by yellowspunk View PostIn Bangalore, they cannot confirm on Dunlop tyres but the new bikes come with white ninja logo (on tank) of green bike and vice versa! YUCK!!
Some more thoughts on the bike ownership:
The rear view mirrors could have been better. It is just about ok - no vibrations in the mirrors which makes the view crisp anytime of the day but the view itself is about 70-75% of what you would have liked (Better than 220 on any day but then anything is
)
Some nitpicking :
http://image.motorcyclistonline.com/...ninja-300+.jpg (Source: Motorcyclist)
As you can see the turn-light indicator light is blackened on the extreme left/right of the console. This does not help in bright sunlight as the intensity of the Indicator regarding turn signal being on/off is hardly noticeable.
Basically you do not know if it is on or off which can be annoying sometimes for others on the road(misleading). A simple fix is to get your Stock screen blackened/tinted/replaced which would resolve the issue.Last edited by roshan3440; 12-03-2014, 08:47 AM.tour-master on exile
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