Red-lining a Motorcycle in first gear is not good for the Engine. Probably they have included 2nd gear too.
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I am assuming, it is not based on temperature, but on the Gear.Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post
Red-lining a Motorcycle in first gear is not good for the Engine. Probably they have included 2nd gear too.2007 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
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Agree with you on that. Redlining at lower gears are not usually recommended. Moreover going above peak power rpm doesnt help in anyway I guess.Originally posted by riazmomin View PostI am assuming, it is not based on temperature, but on the Gear.
Red-lining a Motorcycle in first gear is not good for the Engine. Probably they have included 2nd gear too.
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Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences
just my 2cents.... what I think and feel with this RMP I don't know how to explain it but will try to explain as I am not an expert so ....
OK hear we go the RMP cut off is actually at 9.5 but when u rev it hard (While riding) u will feel a slight cut off in power after 9.5 but if u just ignore it and keep the throttle open it reaches 10.5 but this time the cut off or the ECU break's in really hard it can be as hard as you apply the rear breaks like in a panic situation and it comes back to 9.5 n halts....
had to try this multiple times on my bike to understand this...
this Bike is a Pocket Rocket and does not take much time to shift the RMP from any 1k to the next 1K...
For Instance have any one noticed the time it takes to shift the RMP from 2k to 3K or say from 3K to 5K how soon is it....?
that's what is happening with all of us the bike is actually limited to 9.5 but it does go up to 10.5...
If any one can try this and give there reviews that would be of great help for all...
would like the Experts to put some light on this....Last edited by Torque in Bang; 03-22-2014, 08:49 AM.
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Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences
Yesterday I got the "High Coolant temp" warning for the first time while going for Xbhp G2G meet for around 30 sec after which I immediately stopped and switched it off.
Coolant level looked fine ,fan as running normally and the warning never showed up even while return .
I went to Venkat Shyam (Auto Service, Banshankari) and asked if its normal.
He said since this is the first time D390 will see summer, never shut off the fan in traffic signals which I was repeatedly doing in bumper to bumper traffic .
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Hi Nelson, had similar high coolant temp problem when I switch of the engine at traffic signals, so now I keep the engine running especially if the traffic is heavy just to keep the fan running.Originally posted by nelson_sanjoy View PostYesterday I got the "High Coolant temp" warning for the first time while going for Xbhp G2G meet for around 30 sec after which I immediately stopped and switched it off.
Coolant level looked fine ,fan as running normally and the warning never showed up even while return .
I went to Venkat Shyam (Auto Service, Banshankari) and asked if its normal.
He said since this is the first time D390 will see summer, never shut off the fan in traffic signals which I was repeatedly doing in bumper to bumper traffic .
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Thanks for pointing that out. I had this very same habbit of switching off engine at signals but thanks to one of the friend who owns superbike told me not to do so. Not only at signal, even if you come back home and need to park it , please do keep engine running on ideal for some time before switching it off. This help in bringing the engine to optimum temperature level before its swtiched off.
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TVS Apache 150 (Sold) | Bajaj Avenger 200 (Sold) | Yamaha R15 (Sold) | Duke 390 (Current)
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I guess the conclusion is that 6th gear cutoff is 10500 rpm while for lower gears it is 9500. Why do the svc guys not know this?
I am not sure if keeping it running in idling is a good thing to do. I tried this once for about 5 mins but the temperature bars did not climb down and the fan kept running.Originally posted by thegame0012 View PostThanks for pointing that out. I had this very same habbit of switching off engine at signals but thanks to one of the friend who owns superbike told me not to do so. Not only at signal, even if you come back home and need to park it , please do keep engine running on ideal for some time before switching it off. This help in bringing the engine to optimum temperature level before its swtiched off.
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When running, the wind flow will help to moderate the temperature but when stationary it will maintain the same temperature. I generally try to ride very fast when nearing office/home. This drops the temperature one or two bars and then park it.KTM Duke 390 | RE Interceptor 650
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I have been doing this for about a month now. Once when I was in traffic, I saw that the temperature had risen after switching off the engine and then turning it on. I checked it a few times and saw that the bars would increase when I switched-off the bike - almost touching the high temp bars.Originally posted by timuseravan View PostI guess the conclusion is that 6th gear cutoff is 10500 rpm while for lower gears it is 9500. Why do the svc guys not know this?
I am not sure if keeping it running in idling is a good thing to do. I tried this once for about 5 mins but the temperature bars did not climb down and the fan kept running.
When running, the wind flow will help to moderate the temperature but when stationary it will maintain the same temperature. I generally try to ride very fast when nearing office/home. This drops the temperature one or two bars and then park it.
Since then I have made it a habit not to switch-off the bike; the temp does not come down, however, it does not increase either, hence, the engine temp remains same. This is my experience in somewhat warm climate. The heat is yet to pick up here in Delhi, lets see how it goes.
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While I was going on a long ride, took some time to test the cut off RPM. I revved the engine till cut off in 2nd and 3rd gear more than once. I noted that after 9500 RPM lines fade but limiter cuts off at 10500 only.
I am sure my engine is pretty hot after completing 200 plus kms, so this may be different in first lot and second lot. Riaz's bike was from very first lot, but mine was with altered fan direction and the mud flap etc. dont know if these 2 lots have any difference in this ECU setup.
I know Svc guys does not know where the cut off happens, they would say rev it till 12500.
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Looks like everyone was already doing it, I learnt it the hard wayOriginally posted by RoboRider View PostHi Nelson, had similar high coolant temp problem when I switch of the engine at traffic signals, so now I keep the engine running especially if the traffic is heavy just to keep the fan running.
- may be because I am new to liquid cooled bikes.
Keeping the fan on definitely would speed up cooling, It may not reduce the temperature out-rightly but would prevent overheating and this I am told holds good even with cars.Originally posted by thegame0012 View PostThanks for pointing that out. I had this very same habbit of switching off engine at signals but thanks to one of the friend who owns superbike told me not to do so. Not only at signal, even if you come back home and need to park it , please do keep engine running on ideal for some time before switching it off. This help in bringing the engine to optimum temperature level before its swtiched off.
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With Duke 390 seeing the Indian Summers the first time I would like to see what happens up North in June-July.
Seems like KTM was smart to release their first lot in Sept - October last year.
You have been doing the right thing I was the naive.Originally posted by AmitRavi07 View PostI have been doing this for about a month now. Once when I was in traffic, I saw that the temperature had risen after switching off the engine and then turning it on. I checked it a few times and saw that the bars would increase when I switched-off the bike - almost touching the high temp bars.
Since then I have made it a habit not to switch-off the bike; the temp does not come down, however, it does not increase either, hence, the engine temp remains same. This is my experience in somewhat warm climate. The heat is yet to pick up here in Delhi, lets see how it goes.
Please share your experience after June-July.
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Re: KTM Duke 390 - Owners Reviews and Experiences
Even I have been switching off engine at every signal, I thought the engine overheats only in slow speeds/idle as there is no sufficient air flow for radiator. Anyways will keep this in mind
Also planning to try out Engine Ice coolant sometime soon. Many recommend it and people have seen reduction in 1-2 bars abroad on 390 after using this.
Btw, I tried redlining for the first time. It was 4th gear and the bike did 130+kmph and the limiter kicked in at 10500rpm, no doubt about that. So 9.5k at lower gear and 10.5k at higher makes sense.
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+1 to that.Originally posted by nelson_sanjoy View PostSeems like KTM was smart to release their first lot in Sept - October last year.
Also I had issues with engine getting off in middle of traffic intermittently and I was not so happy with the issue. And then I read some where in T-Bhp that "We, at this part of the world, use same riding Technic for all the bikes and we don't change our riding style from bike to bike, rather we wish "the bike" to behave the way we want which doesn't happen." Now after this I tried changing the riding style into more aggressive street riding (Aggressive, not fast). Thanks for the tips given by Velammani (Chennai), I improved upon the riding and now haven't had the issue since last 2 weeks.
Things I changed which helped me -
1. Using clutch only for the shortest time possible i.e. Holding Clutch changing gear, leaving the clutch. I don't hang around it.
2. Keeping bike in 6 to 6.5k RPM and above all the time when moving, changing gear as needed. WE mostly be very lazy when it comes to city riding. Its more fun this way.
3. Using Engine braking more. This bike has ample of it and in case not used correctly, it will leave you shaken by the way it accelerate and decelerate just by moving wrist in both directions.Nishant Kumar
Ride, eat, sleep...repeat.
TVS Apache 150 (Sold) | Bajaj Avenger 200 (Sold) | Yamaha R15 (Sold) | Duke 390 (Current)
Point Calimere | ECR ride for Breakfast | The 'Rich' city of Ruins - Hampi
Kuttralam Ride | Jawadhu Hills
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Any idea of its availability in and around J.C.Road...Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View PostAlso planning to try out Engine Ice coolant sometime soon. Many recommend it and people have seen reduction in 1-2 bars abroad on 390 after using this.
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