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Re: Fiero/FieroF2/FieroFx
@All: Based on my recent experiences, I have concluded that Fiero (Suzuki or TVS) is one of the most hassle free and rugged bikes, most probably the best during its time.
However, blame it on the mechanics who are spoiling the bike and prematurely ending its life.
3 examples:
1. Mechanic screwed up the camchain tensioner setting and I had to replace the camchain, tensioner&guide.
He decided for himself that its a good idea to replace the valves as well.
2. The improper front suspension problem was not solved in last 8+yrs. even after 3-4 sets of cone set change. What's more, the fork inner tubes, springs were changed too.
And guess what-the problem finally found was that there is a bend in the T stem!
3. After all these part changes, the bike lost pickup, mileage&started overheating.
Idling RPM would fluctuate erratically after a short run.
Some mechs advised to replace the carb, but I wanted to give a shot at cleaning since it had never been done till date!
The idling fluctuation seems to be gone now.
All in all, no valve clearance adjustments, no carburettor cleaning were major reasons for the bike not performing well.
So, I would say, respect the bike for its ruggedness, give it the minimum attention that it deserves and trust me, it won't let you down so easily.
P.S. I will not thank my friends here like gixxer, psr etc. but I will surely remind them of the immense value they bring to this thread-please don't go anywhere! :thumbup:
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xBhp Connect mobile appLast edited by Sarvajit; 06-09-2013, 02:46 AM.Quench my thirst with gasoline!
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Re: Fiero/FieroF2/FieroFx
@ Sarvajit...sad to see your experience with the local Mechs......I had learned to take care of my vehicles, purely because of this...If you give the bike for one problem you will get it back with two from the mech....T stem bend happens only due to a heavy crash..did it happen ?
It is better to learn and do DIY with bike care and go to mech only for major jobs,,,even then it is beter to be present to oversee what is being done ....
Good LuckWhen Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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Originally posted by psr View Post@ Sarvajit...sad to see your experience with the local Mechs......I had learned to take care of my vehicles, purely because of this...If you give the bike for one problem you will get it back with two from the mech....T stem bend happens only due to a heavy crash..did it happen ?
It is better to learn and do DIY with bike care and go to mech only for major jobs,,,even then it is beter to be present to oversee what is being done ....
Good Luck
You are right-giving the bike is inviting problems.
DIY I'm interested but no time to clean my bikes, leave alone service them.
Yes, the bike had couple of crashes (not major) during the first year where the T stem, disc plate and chain covers got bent. Previous 2 were replaced after a few years but T stem as you know still needs fixing.
But yes, I used to always be present while servicing but since last 2-3 services I was not.
I will ensure scrutiny of every job carried out henceforth.
[MENTION=13389]gixxer_junkie_m[/MENTION]: Though the idling fluctuation seems to have stopped, the bike is still very low on pickup and struggles to climb slopes with pillion, even downshifting does not provide the necessary thrust of power though the revs go up. [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] also suggested that the bike might have a clutch setting issue as it does not stall in 2nd even with the clutch and accelerator both disengaged!
What's your take on this?
Clutch kit was replaced recently as you already know.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xBhp Connect mobile appLast edited by Sarvajit; 06-10-2013, 12:20 AM.Quench my thirst with gasoline!
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Originally posted by Sarvajit View PostThese are so-called TVS authorized mechanics! You are right-giving the bike is inviting problems. DIY I'm interested but no time to clean my bikes, leave alone service them. Yes, the bike had couple of crashes (not major) during the first year where the T stem, disc plate and chain covers got bent. Previous 2 were replaced after a few years but T stem as you know still needs fixing. But yes, I used to always be present while servicing but since last 2-3 services I was not. I will ensure scrutiny of every job carried out henceforth. @gixxer_junkie_m: Though the idling fluctuation seems to have stopped, the bike is still very low on pickup and struggles to climb slopes with pillion, even downshifting does not provide the necessary thrust of power though the revs go up. @psr also suggested that the bike might have a clutch setting issue as it does not stall in 2nd even with the clutch and accelerator both disengaged! What's your take on this? Clutch kit was replaced recently as you already know. Sent from my GT-N7000 using xBhp Connect mobile appLife begins, once you hit the power band !!
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Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View PostWrote a long reply here buddy,but when i hit the submit button it hung up and all of it was lost.I don't want to re-type the whole thing,so catch you later.
I'm sad that the words of wisdom were missed out.
I'll be waiting for you online.
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@Vignesh
Buddy,yesterday we did try out your mod to the clutch of adding a extra steel plate and the clutch has stopped slipping.So thanks for letting us know about this.Like i mentioned before,the cheap 200 buck clutch was slipping right from installation,so before going for the RTR clutch mod,i thought of giving your method a try along with adjusting the springs to make it tighter. The question now is as to how long will the clutch plates last on street use only.Life begins, once you hit the power band !!
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Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post@Vignesh
Buddy,yesterday we did try out your mod to the clutch of adding a extra steel plate and the clutch has stopped slipping.So thanks for letting us know about this.Like i mentioned before,the cheap 200 buck clutch was slipping right from installation,so before going for the RTR clutch mod,i thought of giving your method a try along with adjusting the springs to make it tighter. The question now is as to how long will the clutch plates last on street use only.
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Originally posted by v1gnesh View PostI seriously have no Idea about the lifetime of the clutch plates after the mod on the streets. But I can say one thing, an Apache clutch plates lasts for 5-7 racing sessions and the Fiero clutch setup lasts for 4-6 sessions. Each session is 5 laps of 1.5 kms each. But considering the amount of abuse, its really long lasting. Maybe you can test it on the streets and let us know. Also replace the steel plates. Is the gear shift smooth? My gears became a little tight after this mod.
The thing is,with the additional steel plate it was looking like the top clutch plate might slip out of the basket, when the clutch is dis-engaged,if we adjusted the clutch for full movement.So i have made it half clutch and this as it is makes down-shifting hard.Now i'm in a dilemma,because i had also read on many online sites about this mod increasing clutch plate life along with stopping the slippage.The RTR clutch mod needs about 3k+.
Another thing adding to this is that of the gear lever.That is,my bike because of the rear-set mod,i've modified and put a Yam FZ gear lever and it's a link type similar to that of the ZMA.Which as you know will never be as good as the directly fitted gear lever.I had put a RTR gear lever prior to this ,which proved to be a delicate alloy affair and hence on getting struck by a small stone the lever's linkage broke into two and i had to ride home at night in 2nd gear only,that too after shifting the gear by hand. Prior to the RTR gear lever mod, i had been using ZMA/EXTREME lever which is not as good as the RTR gear lever system,but ZMA/FZ kind which has a hook kinda linkage is made from steel and hence is more reliable.Last edited by gixxer_junkie_m; 06-22-2013, 08:36 PM.Life begins, once you hit the power band !!
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Buddy best of luck for the mods .
It may look silly for you with my problem but I am struck with a problem the inner sprocket of yamaha cruz dosent fit in my bike the inner dia is a little large the mech claims! any other idea ?.
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he is claiming rx would fit but I am not willing as it would ( 15t ) make the gearing too tall in stock engine setup.
And he asked me for two days to search for the sprocket which would match lets see if any thing comes positive .
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