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**rreneav1987** · 07-01-2014, 10:37 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by sanjanikar View Post

@Prateekjayant

Thank you for the reply. I am actually torn between new ZMR or Inazuma. Both dont have ABS so thats a big negative for me but still how do they compare for comfort and ride quality? Is really Inazuma is in different league for comfort and as a "long distance cruiser"? Is that comfort is worth to pay for a 1 lakh extra? I guess i need to wait for a little more to get definite long term impressions.

I do understand the price difference and am comparing a faired bike to a naked one but still...... if I am paying money for a long distance comfort machine which is not a cruiser then these two come as viable options. NO CBR/Ninja/Duke talk please to confuse more.

If I were to choose between the Inazuma and the ZMR.. I would any time go foe the Inazuma.. its a Twin cylinder mate.. no comparison...

the only thing that would stop me is the pricing of Inazuma.. i dont have that much Money.. the ride quality of Inazuma would be much better and it is definitely a Highway machine..

Inazuma it is if money isnt a constraint to you. Also the Inazuma price has come down drastically.. almost 1L drop in the price.. hurry up soon

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**dineshaugustin** · 07-01-2014, 11:07 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

There is no Engine Kill Switch.. The RVMs don't vibrate as they do in the previous generation ZMRs.. they are stable atleast I checked upto a speed of 85 kmph and they were fine and the rear view was clear..

the Stock Horn is a Dual horn and yes, they are pretty loud. You can't expect them to be the best in the market.. after all, they are stock

I changed to Roots Trumpet horn as I am a frequent Highway Cruiser

The Disc brakes are the same as in the ZMRs.. the rear brake isn't as crisp but that is what is going to save you at the end of the day.. otherwise the bike will skid and fish tail the rider to death..

the Old ZMRs in city give some 35-40 kmpl.. for me it used to give me 43 kmpl and nowadays, as the bike is getting old and the FI needs cleaning.. I am getting somewhere around 30-34 kmpl.. on the other hand, highways if you ride at 80-90 kmph.. you are sure to get 45-50 kmpl.. and the new generation ZMRs have better highway cruisability, hence I feel they will give the same or even better FE than the old generation ZMRs

It seems you have spent more time with ZMR V2.0, since you are a owner of V1.0 also, iam just curious that you can able to differentiate between V1.0 & V2.0 in terms of engine & performance.

. would be much helpful for new buyers, like me.

thanks.

**rreneav1987** · 07-01-2014, 11:30 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post

It seems you have spent more time with ZMR V2.0, since you are a owner of V1.0 also, iam just curious that you can able to differentiate between V1.0 & V2.0 in terms of engine & performance.

. would be much helpful for new buyers, like me.

thanks.

Check this link and post number 13799..

Hero Honda Karizma ZMR - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcycle-ownership-experiences/10257-hero-honda-karizma-zmr-1380.html

Share what you think about the motorcycle you own or have owned in the past.

Not sure if this will help.. but read that post and go on for another 3 to 6 pages.. you might find it useful

**dineshaugustin** · 07-01-2014, 03:04 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Check this link and post number 13799..

Hero Honda Karizma ZMR - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcycle-ownership-experiences/10257-hero-honda-karizma-zmr-1380.html

Share what you think about the motorcycle you own or have owned in the past.

Not sure if this will help.. but read that post and go on for another 3 to 6 pages.. you might find it useful

It was helpful infact....i dint know how i missed those pages when i did read few pages back...

what kind of changes they have done to increase the power and torque...although ther is no change in bore/stroke..? any idea..?

Any updates on HX250R..price, launch date..??

**rreneav1987** · 07-01-2014, 03:07 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post

It was helpful infact....i dint know how i missed those pages when i did read few pages back...

what kind of changes they have done to increase the power and torque...although ther is no change in bore/stroke..? any idea..?

No idea on the bore/stroke as they haven't mentioned anything about it. Everyone here feels lighter materials used inside the engine and then retuned ECU could be a reason..

**Divya Sharan** · 07-01-2014, 03:28 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

No idea on the bore/stroke as they haven't mentioned anything about it. Everyone here feels lighter materials used inside the engine and then retuned ECU could be a reason..

Most probably not!
Bore stroke maybe the same. ECU is same as well. They have put in high lift cams and re-designed the pistons to avoid valves hitting the piston due to high lift.

**Naveen1985** · 07-01-2014, 04:19 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

No idea on the bore/stroke as they haven't mentioned anything about it. Everyone here feels lighter materials used inside the engine and then retuned ECU could be a reason..

go to page number 5 to check the bore/stroke and all the other details of new zmr

**dineshaugustin** · 07-01-2014, 04:44 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Most probably not!
Bore stroke maybe the same. ECU is same as well. They have put in high lift cams and re-designed the pistons to avoid valves hitting the piston due to high lift.

No change in bore/stroke is confirmed. may be like you have explained high lift cams and ECU remapping could be the possible reason.

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

No idea on the bore/stroke as they haven't mentioned anything about it. Everyone here feels lighter materials used inside the engine and then retuned ECU could be a reason..

any updates on HX250R launch and price.?

**Prateekjayant** · 07-02-2014, 02:19 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

LoL.. Seriously??

if she is sliding down, what you can do is, get a proper seat cover which has proper grip so that the pillion won't slide down..

Where is the Battery situated?? how will you open the side cover?? is that going to be a difficult task??

The engine has more grunt post 5000 RPM and I loved it

though I love smooth rides

which is why I always preferred the karizma twins

LoL.. Even after 5200 kms of riding for 5 days.. My back was perfectly fine after I came back home..

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are the headlamps using H7 or H4 bulbs?? the stock ones are 35W and you can upgrade it to 55/60 W bulb if it is a H4 and you can upgrade to 55W bulb if it is a H7.. in this case, you might need 2 pairs.. I am not sure how the H7 works so just kind of guessing here

and don't worry. The bike will be perfect for Leh

but be careful with the lower part of the fairing. heard that many of the ZMRs face problems where in the Lower part of the fairing breaks off because of No Roads Leh Road

yes really !i rode my friends 220 and the handle felt to light and free there was very less stability also, ialso want to get want to get a seat cover but the svc guys told me that it is not available yet as the bike is new and i want to upgrade the bulbs as soon as i start my highway riding after 1000kms are completed and how will i will know if the bulbs is h7 or h4??

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Originally posted by sanjanikar View Post

@Prateekjayant

Thank you for the reply. I am actually torn between new ZMR or Inazuma. Both dont have ABS so thats a big negative for me but still how do they compare for comfort and ride quality? Is really Inazuma is in different league for comfort and as a "long distance cruiser"? Is that comfort is worth to pay for a 1 lakh extra? I guess i need to wait for a little more to get definite long term impressions.

I do understand the price difference and am comparing a faired bike to a naked one but still...... if I am paying money for a long distance comfort machine which is not a cruiser then these two come as viable options. NO CBR/Ninja/Duke talk please to confuse more.

well,o be honest i dont think i can comment about the inazuma at all,surely i have read about it and heard about about it but its a completely different segment bike while karizma is a commute cum sports bike,theinazuma is a hardcore bike, it has a parallel twin engine whos performance is debated while it produces great torque but is susceptible to more vibrations,on the other hand karizma is a lot cheaper and easy to maintain as compared to the inazuma and the power to price ratio of inazuma is not that good ,if you wait for the hx 250r you will get 31ps of power with much lower pricing and the hero confidence too,so i think you should not pick either the karizma nor the inazuma but you should go for hx250 r

**rreneav1987** · 07-02-2014, 10:16 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Prateekjayant View Post

yes really !i rode my friends 220 and the handle felt to light and free there was very less stability also, ialso want to get want to get a seat cover but the svc guys told me that it is not available yet as the bike is new and i want to upgrade the bulbs as soon as i start my highway riding after 1000kms are completed and how will i will know if the bulbs is h7 or h4??

I feel it is a H7 just like in P220s.. since the Highbeam and the Low beam come from different bulbs.. but better get it confirmed from the ASC

Originally posted by Prateekjayant View Post

well,o be honest i dont think i can comment about the inazuma at all,surely i have read about it and heard about about it but its a completely different segment bike while karizma is a commute cum sports bike,theinazuma is a hardcore bike, it has a parallel twin engine whos performance is debated while it produces great torque but is susceptible to more vibrations,on the other hand karizma is a lot cheaper and easy to maintain as compared to the inazuma and the power to price ratio of inazuma is not that good ,if you wait for the hx 250r you will get 31ps of power with much lower pricing and the hero confidence too,so i think you should not pick either the karizma nor the inazuma but you should go for hx250 r

From the way Sanjanikar has quoted, I feel he is more of a tourer/cruiser than a sports bike stuff.. the HX250R hasn't been caught testing here in India yet.. and I don't think it will be comfortable for long rides unless the person gets used to the sitting stance.. as it is sporty.. The Inazuma is a perfect tourer and with all that torque.. it is simply perfect..
[MENTION=38603]The Monk[/MENTION] might be able to give his reviews on the Inazuma.. he has been touring on it

**shivakrish** · 07-02-2014, 10:34 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Prateekjayant View Post

thanks bro !can you tell me how much gas is left in the tank after only signal is left on the gauge and it has started blinking?

Its Around 2.5L mate..

**rreneav1987** · 07-02-2014, 10:51 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by shivakrish View Post

Its Around 2.5L mate..

For a second, I read it as 2.5 Lac..

My bike runs for approx 150 kms after the fuel gauge starts blinking.. it could have run more, but I didn't want to take risk on the highways

i took this much risk only because I had friends riding along with me

If you want to know how much fuel is left in the tank and how far it can ride til the tank gets empty, keep riding the bike after the fuel gauge starts blinking.. and carry a bottle of fuel with you

P.S Don't try this at home

**dineshaugustin** · 07-02-2014, 10:58 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

I don't think it will be comfortable for long rides unless the person gets used to the sitting stance.. as it is sporty..

i think it is bit more of CBR sitting posture. the handle bar is bit elevated and the raised tank would definitely help in long drive. just a thought.

**rreneav1987** · 07-02-2014, 11:16 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post

i think it is bit more of CBR sitting posture. the handle bar is bit elevated and the raised tank would definitely help in long drive. just a thought.

Seriously not sure about the sitting stance.. but the big tank will definitely help you in crouching down.. lets see how the bike goes in the consumer market...

**sanjanikar** · 07-02-2014, 11:27 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

@ Prateekjayant and rreneav1987

Why a twin results in more vibration? I always believed that a twin cylinder engine inherently results in lesser vibration than a single cylinder. Latter vibration dampening is another factor.

I was also interested in HX250R because of more power/Hero name and ABS but I am afraid that it wont be much comfortable for touring purpose. Time will tell.

Good thing about Karizma is surely time tested performance and so many people raving about its touring capability. I am still outside India and will return by September end and that is when I will actually need the bike.

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