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**Arijit Dutta** · 03-07-2016, 03:16 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

If insider reports are to be trusted, polished ZMR V2 (with improved engine dynamics) will make to the showrooms in a few months time. Same specifications as the v2 but with reworked internals to improve reliability.

Hi Pro-Rider Divya, No wonder the dealer near my home has a huge stock of karizmas! Stock clearing much?
I guess I will wait for a while and get concrete information before putting a step forward. If I have to I will wait till December! :P

Thanks for the insider news though!

**krishna77** · 03-07-2016, 04:06 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Dipan12

Ok . If I am not was not there a review of your bike in Bike advice Barunda ?

Yes brother!

**krishna77** · 03-07-2016, 04:35 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Dipan12

I knew it but now when I went to the bike advice page it is not showing ??

Here's the link:
http://**********.in/yamaha-ss125-us...ns-experience/
It was written almost two years back so hard to find it!

Regarding xBhp stickers, pm me your e-mail id and I can send the formats to you(sorry brother, I do not have any extra prints). The logos are in .cdr and .eps vector format. You'll need CorelDraw to open those. If you know any sticker shop, you can get it done from there. Or else, go to Wellington, you'll find one shop who print any kind of stickers(3rd shop in the opposite lane to the petrol pump).

**Arijit Dutta** · 03-07-2016, 11:06 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Dipan12

I don't think there will be any change in KARIZMA R / ZMA in 2016 Auto Show .

Hi Dipan, well I would not wish for the modifications to be something like that weird looking white-red two-face color Hero had in the Expo, but as Divya Bhai said if there are any engine modifications I can wait.

I like this Car, err Kar-izma as it looks now, plain, simple, robust and to the stock look.

I want the ZMR and If I am not mistaken you have the Karizma R right?
Now Divya bhai did not have a good idea how the present ZMRs are doing, so can you shed a light on that?
Is only the current Rs fixed or are the ZMRs been fixed too?

**Arijit Dutta** · 03-09-2016, 12:09 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Dipan12

Yesterday I have rode my friends's ZMR (orange) and I must say it does not have any any niggles as people are complaining about.

Well that is some good news! I am really glad to hear it!

I took a test ride today, Again! (yes i have test rode it before) and man she feels so good and the posture is so perfect! the vibrations people keep talking about, I cannot be sure if I felt those exact vibes but what ever I felt was a good feeling, those light (dug dug dug) was like her heartbeat, suspensions were butter smooth and that weight vanished as soon as I throttled her out of the showroom, handling is so neutral and intuitive!

So how old is your friend's orange Karizma?

**srikanth kvnap** · 03-09-2016, 01:00 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Arijit Dutta View Post

Well that is some good news! I am really glad to hear it!

With my experience I can say that I was handed a bike fitted with a shit of an engine and that's not something all the bikes or at least the next lot would have.

And I don't have any grudges there but the problem area is something else-

I have realized that Hero ASC guys are loosers. They are not good neither analysis and repair nor treating customers. Because of their work I and my bike had some tough time.

Beware not of the bike but the ASCs.

There are vibes but hey, they are nothing in comparison to the REs(I can't imagine riding on a vibrator for miles) . And I don't feel any in fifth gear.

Also a genuine suggestion: zmr/r 2014 are almost 2yrs old models which feel like lot older when compared to some of the other bikes. Don't wait for the newer version from expo. They are repainting the same house again and again.

Keep aside the 'dream bike' feeling and think wisely before you make a decision. Try some more bikes. If you are looking for faired bike because of looks, trust me they have more cons attached. Try naked, it's the new cool.

In Batman's style: The Helmet is not for you; It's to protect the people you care about.

**Arijit Dutta** · 03-09-2016, 02:54 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by srikanth kvnap View Post

With my experience I can say that I was handed a bike fitted with a shit of an engine and that's not something all the bikes or at least the next lot would have.

Actually it is a little more complicated than that, the thing is I look like an oversized Peanut on an ant, well I am exaggerating a bit but you get the point don't you? I do not look the part when I sit on bikes the likes of Gixxer and (sf), Fz, hunk etc. I mean they seriously look small! Apart from an RE or a Karizma i haven't found any which fits the proportion but ofcourse I am not going to buy an RE! With all the niggles that it has, no way, I have my heart towards the Continental GT but that's way beyond my budget (yes i am contradicting my statement about REs, but a "CONTINENTAL GT!" damn those looks!) then again 'Budget" brings me back to the reality, Avengers again are too short, so the Karizma is the only option that fits the bill, fortunately or unfortunately.

And as far as the ASCs are concerned, here I have seen quite a few Karizmas zooming around my area, some new some of the late 2014 batch, but they did not have any major problems, I had a heart to heart with an ASC guy and even he said the same, well there were problems like the console not responding on one or two bikes but they were fixed.

I really hope that I don't fall into a sudden bad luck if I finally choose to buy this!

I'll attach a photo for some visualisation.

Behold! me sitting on a Gixxer SF as if it was a Cruiser!

**marmiteminer** · 03-09-2016, 10:18 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Arijit Dutta View Post

Actually it is a little more complicated than that, the thing is I look like an oversized Peanut on an ant, well I am exaggerating a bit but you get the point don't you? I do not look the part when I sit on bikes the likes of Gixxer and (sf), Fz, hunk etc. I mean they seriously look small! Apart from an RE or a Karizma i haven't found any which fits the proportion but ofcourse I am not going to buy an RE! With all the niggles that it has, no way, I have my heart towards the Continental GT but that's way beyond my budget (yes i am contradicting my statement about REs, but a "CONTINENTAL GT!" damn those looks!) then again 'Budget" brings me back to the reality, Avengers again are too short, so the Karizma is the only option that fits the bill, fortunately or unfortunately.

And as far as the ASCs are concerned, here I have seen quite a few Karizmas zooming around my area, some new some of the late 2014 batch, but they did not have any major problems, I had a heart to heart with an ASC guy and even he said the same, well there were problems like the console not responding on one or two bikes but they were fixed.

I really hope that I don't fall into a sudden bad luck if I finally choose to buy this!

I'll attach a photo for some visualisation.

Behold! me sitting on a Gixxer SF as if it was a Cruiser!
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Hi mate,

I am too 6.2 feet tall & weight 85KG's. Same dilemma as yours. Bought Pulsar 220 few days ago.

I suggest because as of now, dealerships are having unsold stock of 2014 models only. Unless they clear their existing stock, new 2016 stock will not arrive.

I strongly suggest you try the P220.

> looks big, stable, masculine.

> Is comfortable

> very economical, plenty spare parts available.

> feature loaded, double disc & powerful headlamps for safety.

> good resale too

**Divya Sharan** · 03-09-2016, 11:09 AM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Dipan12

My friend's Karizma ZMR is 24500 KM old . And never he had faced any problems others are talking about . Me and my friend always use 10w30 engine oil - Motul 10w30 semisynthetic - Flipkart , therefore we never had any vibe , starting problem issues as this oil is recommended for the oil circuclation and oil pumping process in the Karizmas . People use 20w40 , 20w50 , 10w40 , 10w50 which causes the problems . And other maintenance we do are needed at every 30 K and 40 K which is usual people tends to forget due to work . Take proper care about your bike and nothing will happen .
P.S - People say pulsar 220f is a problematic bike but my uncle's 220f is running good even at 60,000 KM with regular maintenance and no modification , take care of your engine at the first service - like I did - when I bought the bike 10KM I changed the - spark plug - engine oil 10w30 Motul - drive chain lube and clean (Motul) - Battery charge - Air filter changed - all at 15 KM and after that no problems - this are always done my me and my friend so by which our Karizma give the proper defination of Karizmas .

Wrong assumption! Karizma originally came with a 20w40 oil grade recommendation. And the engine internals w.r.t oil flow have remained unchanged since 2003. So, a 20w40 oil would in fact perform better than 10w30. Vibes will be less but the pull and mileage in city will take a small hit. Maybe 1-2 kmpl.
It is very well known by now that the initial batches of ZMR v2 sucked so bad that they sold only 7 models in 3 months combined in 2015.

Maybe the newer batches (post 2014) are rectified.

Being a HERO fan I must say pulsar 220f is excellent bike in this case . And what about the horns - are they dual or single ?

Indeed P220F is a lovely bike. Arijit can definitely go for it.
It has dual horns.

Replied inline in bold.

**Saleem** · 03-09-2016, 03:34 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by srikanth kvnap View Post

With my experience I can say that I was handed a bike fitted with a shit of an engine and that's not something all the bikes or at least the next lot would have.

And I don't have any grudges there but the problem area is something else-

I have realized that Hero ASC guys are loosers. They are not good neither analysis and repair nor treating customers. Because of their work I and my bike had some tough time.

Beware not of the bike but the ASCs.

There are vibes but hey, they are nothing in comparison to the REs(I can't imagine riding on a vibrator for miles) . And I don't feel any in fifth gear.

Also a genuine suggestion: zmr/r 2014 are almost 2yrs old models which feel like lot older when compared to some of the other bikes. Don't wait for the newer version from expo. They are repainting the same house again and again.

Keep aside the 'dream bike' feeling and think wisely before you make a decision. Try some more bikes. If you are looking for faired bike because of looks, trust me they have more cons attached. Try naked, it's the new cool.

In Batman's style: The Helmet is not for you; It's to protect the people you care about.

Well Said Srikant.
Simply Put Stay Away From The New ZMR'S

**Arijit Dutta** · 03-09-2016, 04:13 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Thanks for the inputs Marmiteminer, Dipan, Divya, Saleem, I really appreciate the time you guys take out to reply

Although, I personally do not like the fish-like face of the Pulsar 220, should I rather check out the AS200?
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Originally posted by Dipan12

And if I am not wrong is this showroom in AGARPARA !!

You got that right! I live in Madhyamgram actually and Hero, Honda, Yamaha, TVS, Bajaj Showrooms/SVCs are 10 minutes walking distance from my house, with the only exception being the Suzuki being located a little far.

Btw Dipan, which SVC do you visit for your karizma, and which showroom did you take it from?

**Naveen1985** · 03-09-2016, 05:03 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Arijit Dutta View Post

Thanks for the inputs Marmiteminer, Dipan, Divya, Saleem, I really appreciate the time you guys take out to reply

Although, I personally do not like the fish-like face of the Pulsar 220, should I rather check out the AS200?
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You got that right! I live in Madhyamgram actually and Hero, Honda, Yamaha, TVS, Bajaj Showrooms/SVCs are 10 minutes walking distance from my house, with the only exception being the Suzuki being located a little far.

Btw Dipan, which SVC do you visit for your karizma, and which showroom did you take it from?

You should consider r15s if you which is time tested with gorgeous looks and now its coming with pillion seat also...

**marmiteminer** · 03-09-2016, 05:39 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Arijit Dutta View Post

Thanks for the inputs Marmiteminer, Dipan, Divya, Saleem, I really appreciate the time you guys take out to reply

Although, I personally do not like the fish-like face of the Pulsar 220, should I rather check out the AS200?
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You got that right! I live in Madhyamgram actually and Hero, Honda, Yamaha, TVS, Bajaj Showrooms/SVCs are 10 minutes walking distance from my house, with the only exception being the Suzuki being located a little far.

Btw Dipan, which SVC do you visit for your karizma, and which showroom did you take it from?

Dear Arjit,

Strictly avoid R15, it is a very small bike! you will die of back pain.

Yes, consider AS200, its a very good motorcycle, BUT repairing/servicing AS200 is very difficult & it is complicated. If you have good qualified mechanics around you, I would say go for it!

If you dont have qualified mechs, then please avoid AS200 & try P220. The 220 doesn't look that bad either. Dont ignore a good motorcycle purely because of looks!

If you cannot do any of above, then go for Karizma R only & avoid ZMR.

**Vaisakh2778** · 03-09-2016, 07:26 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Arijit Dutta View Post

Thanks for the inputs Marmiteminer, Dipan, Divya, Saleem, I really appreciate the time you guys take out to reply

Although, I personally do not like the fish-like face of the Pulsar 220, should I rather check out the AS200?
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From my experience as i am owning NS 200 , i feel Karizma will be comfortable than AS 200 especially ride quality.
Also my friend own ZMR v2 it have some niggles but it is a dream to ride .Vibrations will reduce as you climb the odo

If you are not concerned about ride quality then go for AS

Ps : NS AS RS need good mechanics for even regular maintenance ( check your nearby bajaj asc about their service etc )

**Arijit Dutta** · 03-09-2016, 08:58 PM

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post

You should consider r15s

Thanks for the suggestion brother, but the r15 series are very short and small much like fz or gixxer it wont fit me comfortably :P

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