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**on_the_saddle** · 02-16-2016, 08:43 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by tutul278 View Post

Thank you for your suggestion. Does the svc guys allow if i buy the engine oil from outside and ask them to pour it while servicing? Is it against warranty anyway?

My SVC allows it. In fact they even changed the head light bulb to a slightly higher wattage bulb which I gave them when I requested them to do so. It depends from SVC to SVC & even on your rapport with the manager/technician.
However, for warranty purposes it is better to use SVC provided oil as it comes in the billing record that the oil was changed during service. Your SVC might have Motul 7100 10W40. You can enquire with them.

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Originally posted by Vinit7557 View Post

I would recommend 300v...use the 7100 once and then switch to 300v...a lot of difference...

300V is for superbikes as stated by Motul & it is a racing breed oil. One can use it in gixxer, but spending Rs 350 extra with marginal or no increase in performance doesn't justify the cost. Anyway it is only my personal opinion.

**akash22** · 02-16-2016, 09:13 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

what chain does gixxer use and from when should I start lubing ?

**mlayzee** · 02-16-2016, 10:22 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by akash22 View Post

what chain does gixxer use and from when should I start lubing ?

Gixxer uses O ring drive chain.. Start lubricating the chain after 1st service.. They will lubricate it and give,so after 500kms approx, lubricate it at regular intervals

**Vinit7557** · 02-16-2016, 10:47 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Revs will differ a lot if you cruise at 95...the rev for 7100 would be 7500 or 7600...whereas in a 300v the rev comes down to 7000...which makes a huge difference if you are using the gixxer for touring...rip it up and you will still get 40 to 45 kmpl...at 95 kmph 45 to 50...

**akash22** · 02-16-2016, 11:02 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Vinit7557 View Post

Revs will differ a lot if you cruise at 95...the rev for 7100 would be 7500 or 7600...whereas in a 300v the rev comes down to 7000...which makes a huge difference if you are using the gixxer for touring...rip it up and you will still get 40 to 45 kmpl...at 95 kmph 45 to 50...

Is there any way of changing engine oil by ourselves for sf as I don't trust svc that much and they would say warranty would be void

**shadcool786** · 02-16-2016, 11:18 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Vinit7557 View Post

Revs will differ a lot if you cruise at 95...the rev for 7100 would be 7500 or 7600...whereas in a 300v the rev comes down to 7000...which makes a huge difference if you are using the gixxer for touring...rip it up and you will still get 40 to 45 kmpl...at 95 kmph 45 to 50...

Do you have proof about the claims you are making? If yes please do share.

**on_the_saddle** · 02-16-2016, 11:23 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Vinit7557 View Post

Revs will differ a lot if you cruise at 95...the rev for 7100 would be 7500 or 7600...whereas in a 300v the rev comes down to 7000...which makes a huge difference if you are using the gixxer for touring...rip it up and you will still get 40 to 45 kmpl...at 95 kmph 45 to 50...

The speed of any vehicle is a function of the engine RPM which is nothing but the rotations per minute of the crankshaft, gear ratios (GR), final drive ratio (ratio of no of teeth on the drive & driven sprocket) & the wheel diameter. Irrespective of the oil used, the vehicle speed will always be the same at any particular engine RPM unless the one changes the GR or sprockets or installs a wheel of different diameter. Of course synthetic oils will assist the motorcycle achieve higher speeds by letting the engine work at higher RPM. The mileage may also increase because of better lubrication properties of synthetic oils & not because they can make the vehicle attain same speeds at lower RPM compared to mineral or SS oils...

**sibun** · 02-16-2016, 11:26 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Vinit7557 View Post

Revs will differ a lot if you cruise at 95...the rev for 7100 would be 7500 or 7600...whereas in a 300v the rev comes down to 7000...which makes a huge difference if you are using the gixxer for touring...rip it up and you will still get 40 to 45 kmpl...at 95 kmph 45 to 50...

Didn't knew that oil changes gear ratio.
Does 300 v changes gear ratios?

**GauravD** · 02-17-2016, 12:06 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Vinit7557 View Post

Revs will differ a lot if you cruise at 95...the rev for 7100 would be 7500 or 7600...whereas in a 300v the rev comes down to 7000...which makes a huge difference if you are using the gixxer for touring...rip it up and you will still get 40 to 45 kmpl...at 95 kmph 45 to 50...

With all due respect, thats totally wrong info bro... The rpms dont differ according to the oil used for a particular speed. The rpm is the number of crankshaft rotations per minute which is in no way dependent on the kind of oil used. The change in oil only assists in reaching a higher rpm but does not alter the rotational speed.

I have an NS which does 103 kmph at 7k rotations regardless of which oil I use - tried bajaj dtsi, 5100, 7100 and 300V. The difference - the variation in engine stress to reach 103. The resistance to rev higher up is most from dtsi and lowest from 300, mainly due to mineral and synth nature.

Please could you let us know the source of this information bro..

**GauravD** · 02-17-2016, 12:10 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by akash22 View Post

what chain does gixxer use and from when should I start lubing ?

O ring chains..

Clean your chain, lubricate it and get the slack right every 500 odd kms... Best cleaner and lube to use is Motul, its a lil expensive but works well. 3M I have heard is also good.

**GauravD** · 02-17-2016, 12:13 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Vinit7557 View Post

I would recommend 300v...use the 7100 once and then switch to 300v...a lot of difference...

300V is only good for the track where performance is ALL THAT MATTERS. It does not contribute to engine life and reduced wear and tear of moving components. The primary reason for this is increased reduction of viscosity of the oil.

7100 is the max, IMO, that our street bikes should use. And the track oils should be left for track use only.

**GauravD** · 02-17-2016, 12:15 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by on_the_saddle View Post

My SVC allows it. In fact they even changed the head light bulb to a slightly higher wattage bulb which I gave them when I requested them to do so. It depends from SVC to SVC & even on your rapport with the manager/technician.
However, for warranty purposes it is better to use SVC provided oil as it comes in the billing record that the oil was changed during service. Your SVC might have Motul 7100 10W40. You can enquire with them.

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300V is for superbikes as stated by Motul & it is a racing breed oil. One can use it in gixxer, but spending Rs 350 extra with marginal or no increase in performance doesn't justify the cost. Anyway it is only my personal opinion.

Moreover the additional cost does not even contribute to increasing the engine life. No doubt its a brilliant oil but then has reduced life. So basically you would be paying extra to reduce your engine life.

**GauravD** · 02-17-2016, 12:23 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by tutul278 View Post

Hello Bikers,

I have just clocked 2000 kms on my gixxer. The engine oil was changed in the first service at 900 kms. The next service is due at 3500 kms.
My concern is- does the engine oil which was poured in during the first service will hold good for 2500 kms gap/stretch? (Considering that they poured Motul mineral oil).

I am planning to stick to Motul 5100 15w50 or Motul 7100 10w40. (What is the best reading on odo to swtich to SS or FS ?)

Can anyone suggest which one to choose from above by the following parameters :

a) Weather conditions in Kokata are (10-15 degrees Winter ~ 35-42 degrees Summer) Note: Bad-ass humidity always remains above 90%

b) Daily commute of 22-24 kms one-way (Total 45 kms) through mixed traffic. Occasionally get chance to clock 90-100 kpmh signal to signal.
c) Need smooth engine, gear shifts and tolerance to heat.
d) Prefer engine life more than racing against each other when signals go green. (no offense to those who love to race on signals....even i do it occasionally

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e) No pillion most of the times.
f) Do trips of 520 kms (up-down) once in a month or two. (Ride 120 kms at a stretch without break)
g) Cost for engine oil not a deciding factor.

IMO .. 7100...

- cooler engine in start stop traffic or on highway rides. Forget about 120 kms I did 450 kms at a single stretch with the engine still raring to go.
- the engine is definitely not smoother than what you would get with 5100 but its way more peppier.

Do not switch before about 4k to 5k on your odo.

**tutul278** · 02-17-2016, 08:16 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by GauravD View Post

IMO .. 7100...

- cooler engine in start stop traffic or on highway rides. Forget about 120 kms I did 450 kms at a single stretch with the engine still raring to go.
- the engine is definitely not smoother than what you would get with 5100 but its way more peppier.

Do not switch before about 4k to 5k on your odo.

Thank you for the comments. i felt 300v is an overkill for this 155cc machine, so i chucked it out of the list already.

One question- will 5100 last for the 4000kms service intervals? (Does it has a 10w40 variant available in market)

**GauravD** · 02-17-2016, 09:30 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by tutul278 View Post

Thank you for the comments. i felt 300v is an overkill for this 155cc machine, so i chucked it out of the list already.

One question- will 5100 last for the 4000kms service intervals? (Does it has a 10w40 variant available in market)

With the engine refinement levels of the Suzuki it should easily last that long. Being semi synth the 5100 may have a shorter life than the fully synth 7100 which easily lasts for 5K kms and then is poured by my mechanic into his bike so I am guessing it still has some viscosity left.

Not being able to find a link for the 5100 10W40 but 7100 10W40 is available on Amazon.in for 754.00 for a liter.

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