Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience


My second free service

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

Wait a minute - the 390 uses only 1.5L of engine oil? And requires Spark plug change every service?

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

Yes at the handlebar end.
Got it changed for 185₹.

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

1.5L of oil is only??
Which bike used more than this?

Service interval is 8k. You can change it at every service or depending on your ride feel and needs. Your call.

Re: New KTM RC390 (2017) HELP!

I said WARRANTY, not INSURANCE.
I am very well aware that insurance is not for all these things.

I think you misunderstood somehow. ✌️

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

Got the 1st service done today. Had a good experience overall and important thing was that I got all of the work done in front of me. Changed the engine oil to fully synthetic Motul 7100 10w50(1.5L) and also topped the coolant. Total cost came out to be ₹1566. The bike feels different and eager. About the Avg. Mileage display issue on the digital meter, svc guyz washed it of saying some crap but then they told me they will notify KTM about it and clicked the pic.

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

Give them time. If it's an issue, they will fix it for sure.
KTM is already doing the best they could, as per my experience.

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

Yes, 390 oil capacity is approx 1.5L during an oil change.
Spark plug replacement every service is only if required. It normally lasts at-least twice as long i.e. 15k km.

the r3 and n300 use 2+ litres of oil
Even the cbr250r take a little more than 1.5L.
I think ktm decided to keep the oil capacity to the minimum to reduce the size/weight of the engine. Maybe if it had say 2L of oil, it might be running a bit cooler

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You rear brake pads wore out so early ?! Did you check them yourself or went with what the svc said ?
These svc guys are known to make a quick buck on the brake pads, so inspect them yourself before deciding if a change is necessary.
If the pads indeed have worn out beyond the limit, then either you have been riding hard/braking hard like on a track, you rear caliper is not functioning properly or you simply are keep the brake lever engaged most of the time (by resting your leg on the lever) and this is causing more wear.
And the spark plug is usually not required every service. It can safely be changed every alternate service or 12~15k km intervals. And the spark plug for your bike would be the vr5neu (with a 1mm gap compared to the older vr5ne that had a 0.8mm gap). But I guess you can use either considering the older bikes came with the vr5ne.

The only compulsory stuff are the oil and the filters(which now come in a single box as the 'periodic service kit'), if you see.. the spark plug in not included in the kit.

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

Break pads were not fully worn out..
Might have run for another 500 km or so,but i preffered to change them.
Regarding quick worn out - i had a habit of using only rear brake,but now i have changed and prefer more front brake or both. Also i ride mostly in the twisties.

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

Indeed, Sird. A misstep there, thank you for the heads up.


Not really, Sid. KTM's usually top it up with 1.6 liter of engine oil, 390s. There's lot more to than cooling. Well, to your point of cooling, yes engine oil does aid in cooling, but using excess oil without the proper R&D for pumping and scavenging of the oil, you have an engine that goes KABOOM soon. Excessive engine oil means the engine itself struggles to to open up, meaning, the engine works harder for a given RPM and fuel consumption goes up. This is one of the reasons why oil is getting thinner and thinner these days, to reduce to static friction load on the engine., which in turn means a freer revving engine, and increased mileage.

Now, our own RE from the 350 to 500 have close to 2.75 liter sump capacity and top out at 2.5L. Does it make it any better? Well, it depends on the clutch surface area to be lubricated, the size of the crank etc. I can go on and on

Plug change aren't required on every service. I personally haven't replaced any plugs per se. Secondly the 390 as per manual uses 1.6 liters of engine oil.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

But VJ, the 390 has got 2 engine oil pumps, doesn't it?

Why 2, why not one giant one?

TIA.

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

As mentioned earlier , bigger oil tank would have been better for 390.

Will the huge amount of heat from the 373 mill which has higher compression ratio compared to REs make the oil dirty and loose viscosity quicker?
Even with this small oil tank, oil change interval of 8k ?

KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

They charge labour for changing pads that too 100? O.o
They never charged me tough

Already done 3 changes without labour cost for changing the pads

Which service centre did you go?

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

My rear pad went out at 800kms
Had a talk with them and even thy didn't understand why it got worn out so quickly
In the end they changed it for free

Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

Please read the 'self study manual' of the 390. Google it, or check the recent post by me on the 2017 390 thread here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ml#post1284321
The primary oil pump is only one, the other one has a different function. Check pg 19 of the SSM
Yes, it might have been better to have more oil capacity, but again maybe the engineers had some design/parameters to adhere to. Most probably it was to keep the mass/weight down and make the bike compact (which is what it is)
The oil used here is a w50 (again one reason why this high viscosity oil was chosen might be due to the lower oil capacity) unlike most of the other bikes which use a lighter w30 or w40. So a good fully synthetic w50 would provide sufficient viscosity to last the oil change intervals recommended by the manufacturer.

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He was surely taken for a ride wrt charges. 250 for chain lube ! 100 for brake pad change! That too during a routine free service.
Well, that's how some of the svc's operate.. you might have to be careful or they might say 'saar you breathed some of the air from our air gun while it was being used to clean the bike, so 100rs for that'