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  • Re: Issues in buying DSK Benelli TNT 600i

    Originally posted by shantanunirmalmitra View Post
    Ok so I will take a shot at answering some of the questions that have been put forth in the past few weeks- I apologize for not being a regular here. I am myself an Ex-Benelli user (600i) and used it for over 16000 Km before upgrading to a bigger bike. And I have owned apparently bigger and more powerful bikes before the 600i; so I think I can compare and contrast keeping general stuff in mind:

    1. Spare parts are not going to be a problem now or in the future unless we have a world war anytime soon
    2. We have to change this mindset that Chinese means sub standard. You get what you pay for. Do bear in mind that even Apple is mass manufactured in China and I am yet to hear complaints on build quality
    3. If you expect to get the same levels of refinement of say a bigger bike like Z800- do be realistic
    4. 600i does a few things exceptionally well- it is fairly stable at 120-150 kmph speeds which is saying quite a bit. It does not feel heavy once on the move after 60 kmph and the best part, you can ride it at 40 kmph in 6th gear without downshifting easily- the bike just refuses to knock. Try comparing it with anything else on 2 wheels
    5. However, build quality is a bit iffy and I don't mean the fit and finish because there's nothing wrong with that. What I mean (and am sure most users would agree)- is that the moment you get it out after a service, the first 500-1000 Km will feel a lot different to ride than the next 500-1000 and so on and so forth until you hit the next service interval. Which basically means that consistency is a problem- and that is a factor of components used. Not saying this is esoteric only to Benelli but quite pronounced here. The chain becomes loose and needs tightening every 2000 KM. This can be done at home though
    6. I am a cornering junkie (not that I can do it well enough yet) and this is where you cannot compare a 600i with anything else including a Duke 390. The fat, hard compound Angel GTs are just not meant for hard cornering- so don't blame the bike. If you change the tyres to say Metzelers M7- it will change character pretty soon
    7. It makes a lot of sense to watch videos on youtube to get a hold on basics of lubing, cleaning, radiator cleaning etc. You'd be surprised how much smoother it makes the next ride. As a rule, do a through check up after every 500 km of riding without visiting the SVC. The cost of replacement of consumables comes down significantly. Stock up on chain cleaner, lubricant, disc cleaner etc. Invest in a good paddock stand and if possible also a small portable washing unit for spray cleaning- it is better than pressure wash
    8. For things like frame sliders, tyres and other stuff that is not "benelli' branded, use Aliexpress or any other website- Revzilla is good too. The quality and price would both benefit your pocket. Brake pads etc. cost one fourth if bought online compared to DSK prices
    9. Rear braking is a real ***** surely. But the front brakes are excellent. And a good rider uses front and rear in 70::30 ratio. Do not blame DSK or Benelli for it. Go practice braking technique instead


    Overall, if this is your first big bike, then take it in writing, there's nothing better including the more established Kawasakis and the likes. However, the flip side is that the moment you start riding it seriously and approach the 10 k mark, you would start itching for more power, sophistication and perhaps snob value that a superbike ideally should elicit but take it from someone who has ridden it hard and well for over a year, this bike does not disappoint the enthusiast in you should you operate under a budgetary crunch. A fantastic first bike to own truly. The only reason you see so many up for sale this soon is that the bike suffers from an image problem which would continue coz face it- an inline 4 with ABS under 7 lacs means it will be more accessible and therefore not premium enough. Your choice really!



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    • Re: Issues in buying DSK Benelli TNT 600i

      Originally posted by shantanunirmalmitra View Post
      Ok so I will take a shot at answering some of the questions that have been put forth in the past few weeks- I apologize for not being a regular here. I am myself an Ex-Benelli user (600i) and used it for over 16000 Km before upgrading to a bigger bike. And I have owned apparently bigger and more powerful bikes before the 600i; so I think I can compare and contrast keeping general stuff in mind:

      1. Spare parts are not going to be a problem now or in the future unless we have a world war anytime soon
      2. We have to change this mindset that Chinese means sub standard. You get what you pay for. Do bear in mind that even Apple is mass manufactured in China and I am yet to hear complaints on build quality
      3. If you expect to get the same levels of refinement of say a bigger bike like Z800- do be realistic
      4. 600i does a few things exceptionally well- it is fairly stable at 120-150 kmph speeds which is saying quite a bit. It does not feel heavy once on the move after 60 kmph and the best part, you can ride it at 40 kmph in 6th gear without downshifting easily- the bike just refuses to knock. Try comparing it with anything else on 2 wheels
      5. However, build quality is a bit iffy and I don't mean the fit and finish because there's nothing wrong with that. What I mean (and am sure most users would agree)- is that the moment you get it out after a service, the first 500-1000 Km will feel a lot different to ride than the next 500-1000 and so on and so forth until you hit the next service interval. Which basically means that consistency is a problem- and that is a factor of components used. Not saying this is esoteric only to Benelli but quite pronounced here. The chain becomes loose and needs tightening every 2000 KM. This can be done at home though
      6. I am a cornering junkie (not that I can do it well enough yet) and this is where you cannot compare a 600i with anything else including a Duke 390. The fat, hard compound Angel GTs are just not meant for hard cornering- so don't blame the bike. If you change the tyres to say Metzelers M7- it will change character pretty soon
      7. It makes a lot of sense to watch videos on youtube to get a hold on basics of lubing, cleaning, radiator cleaning etc. You'd be surprised how much smoother it makes the next ride. As a rule, do a through check up after every 500 km of riding without visiting the SVC. The cost of replacement of consumables comes down significantly. Stock up on chain cleaner, lubricant, disc cleaner etc. Invest in a good paddock stand and if possible also a small portable washing unit for spray cleaning- it is better than pressure wash
      8. For things like frame sliders, tyres and other stuff that is not "benelli' branded, use Aliexpress or any other website- Revzilla is good too. The quality and price would both benefit your pocket. Brake pads etc. cost one fourth if bought online compared to DSK prices
      9. Rear braking is a real ***** surely. But the front brakes are excellent. And a good rider uses front and rear in 70::30 ratio. Do not blame DSK or Benelli for it. Go practice braking technique instead


      Overall, if this is your first big bike, then take it in writing, there's nothing better including the more established Kawasakis and the likes. However, the flip side is that the moment you start riding it seriously and approach the 10 k mark, you would start itching for more power, sophistication and perhaps snob value that a superbike ideally should elicit but take it from someone who has ridden it hard and well for over a year, this bike does not disappoint the enthusiast in you should you operate under a budgetary crunch. A fantastic first bike to own truly. The only reason you see so many up for sale this soon is that the bike suffers from an image problem which would continue coz face it- an inline 4 with ABS under 7 lacs means it will be more accessible and therefore not premium enough. Your choice really!
      very nicely explained! But not sure about the last 2 sentences - more accessible and not premium enough -> I still have seen only 1 600i in the whole of last month! I thought these bikes would be around in droves considering the amount of money people can spend these days. But that is not so, which is why I'm suspecting there to be a bigger problem with the bikes or their associated maintenance costs - especially engine oil change every 4000kms or 4 months - which is absurd.

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      • Re: Issues in buying DSK Benelli TNT 600i

        Originally posted by razzer View Post
        very nicely explained! But not sure about the last 2 sentences - more accessible and not premium enough -> I still have seen only 1 600i in the whole of last month! I thought these bikes would be around in droves considering the amount of money people can spend these days. But that is not so, which is why I'm suspecting there to be a bigger problem with the bikes or their associated maintenance costs - especially engine oil change every 4000kms or 4 months - which is absurd.

        Good point. Well I cannot speak for everyone or everything but there is a slight misnomer amongst the biking community when it comes to understanding numbers, be it power delivery, sales figures or even maintenance etc. You do make a valid point about cost of maintenance. So let's do the Math; an ordinary servicing that includes oil change, air filter change, oil filter change, lubing, disc cleaning etc. costs about 7000 (inclusive taxes). Which comes to about 1.75 rupees per KM of maintenance. I shall compare this with my new ride, a Ducati Monster which also needs servicing every 10000 KM and costs about 13500 and then there is the Throttle cleaning and adjustment which costs about 7000. So per KM maintenance comes to 2.15. Try repeating this now with a Z800 and Street Triple- I take these examples as they are the next level step up from a 600i. So that would hover around the 2 rupee mark per KM. Another mistake newbies make is look at power output figures in isolation. And hence say a a Bullet seems so much more powerful than a CBR 250- WRONGGGGGG. You need to look at torque output in conjunction with where and how far on the rev range a bike delivers maximum power. What is means is that if a bike is delivering certain bhp, then at what RPM does most of it get delivered. So if a bike delivers 65 bhp at 8000 RPM and another one delivers 90 bhp at 13000 RPM, the first one will almost always pull better in sudden acceleration (you can see why a Duke kills even liter class bikes sometimes)- but in a long drag race the second one shall eventually take over. Which bike you take on is frankly your particular choice. I hope I make my point clear now

        Now go back to the 600i category and look at the Ninja 650. This is an absolute non comparison really as the Ninja eats Benelli for breakfast, lunch and dinner without a burp. It infact can compete with a KTM and still win . But the point is that Ninja doesn't sound even a quarter as sweet and while looks are subjective, it is not exciting by any stretch of imagination. I understand that the 2017 Ninja is gonna be a looker but if it continues to sound like its earlier avataar, do not expect it to be a great seller. Which brings me back to what's wrong with Benelli. When you factor in that it is an in-between-kinda thing one doesn't really know which way to turn. Do you want to put in a few more bucks and move up ORrrrr save 20K and settle for a Karizma sounding 650 engine. And that is where the first time superbike buyer chooses/falters with the Benelli and even after buying it, the guilt/compromise trip continues- I know this first hand

        So my friend, I am not trying to convert non believers into following my cult. All I am saying is that if you're fine with occasional speed runs on Sundays and don't mind a niggle or two every now and then, what you do get in return is pure adrenaline rush adequate to keep the enthusiast in you alive until such time that you have more dough for a double adrenaline pump meaning an upgrade to a Jap or Euro make which honestly is over rated any which ways. I maintain that someone being initiated into superbiking won't be disappointed with the 600i- it really is a brilliant machine. But then again- it is not a bike which will remain with you the moment you start biking seriously over long distances as these small niggles will irritate you.

        Overall follow this thumb rule- if you wish to (and be realistic) keep your riding to under 600-800 KM a month and mostly ride on the highways, 600i is a rockstar. If the riding is expected to climb up exponentially, look elsewhere. The case rests!

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        • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews & Experiences

          Welcone to the jungle beast
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          • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews & Experiences

            Got it yesterday
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            • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews & Experiences

              Originally posted by PsyBiker View Post
              Got it yesterday
              Congrats and Welcome to the club !!!!
              Past & Current Bikes :

              KB 100 <-- Great performer (SOLD)
              Yamaha RX 135 (4 Speed) <-- Always a Legend no matter what (SOLD)
              Honda Unicorn <-- New Legned already born (SOLD)
              Honda CBR 250R <--Good Tourer (SOLD)
              KTM Duke 390
              <-- The Hooligan (SOLD)
              Benelli 600i<-- In-Line 4 :) (SOLD)
              Triumph Daytona 675 <-- SuperSport and the king of 600s (SOLD)
              Yamaha YZF R3 <-- Sold
              Interceptor 650



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              • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews &amp; Experiences

                Originally posted by PsyBiker View Post
                Got it yesterday
                Congo bro!!again active on xbhp??😀😀
                Driving a Car is like watching a movie
                But Riding a Bike is like Actually Starring in It!!!!

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                • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews &amp; Experiences

                  Originally posted by Mandar64 View Post
                  Congo bro!!again active on xbhp??😀😀
                  yeaahh somewhat..

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                  • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews &amp; Experiences

                    How difficult is it to fit a full fairing on this bike. Someone in Vietnam has fitted a Ducati Panigale fairing on a Benelli TNT300. Any idea if the same can be done on this bike and how much would be the cost? Any other fairings that would fit? I really like this bike but I wish it was a fully faired sports bike.

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                    • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews &amp; Experiences

                      Completed 3rd service yesterday, The service included changing the air filter as per the service manual. Also installed IXIL exhaust.

                      Now, I feel the bike is able to breathe easily and I can see a little increase in low end power due to decrease in weight may be around 3-4 kgs and also due to increase in power may be 3-4 bhp. Though it is not a huge increase in power,however you can feel it if you have felt the low end torque previously
                      Past & Current Bikes :

                      KB 100 <-- Great performer (SOLD)
                      Yamaha RX 135 (4 Speed) <-- Always a Legend no matter what (SOLD)
                      Honda Unicorn <-- New Legned already born (SOLD)
                      Honda CBR 250R <--Good Tourer (SOLD)
                      KTM Duke 390
                      <-- The Hooligan (SOLD)
                      Benelli 600i<-- In-Line 4 :) (SOLD)
                      Triumph Daytona 675 <-- SuperSport and the king of 600s (SOLD)
                      Yamaha YZF R3 <-- Sold
                      Interceptor 650



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                      • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews &amp;amp; Experiences

                        Originally posted by P3T3R View Post
                        How difficult is it to fit a full fairing on this bike. Someone in Vietnam has fitted a Ducati Panigale fairing on a Benelli TNT300. Any idea if the same can be done on this bike and how much would be the cost? Any other fairings that would fit? I really like this bike but I wish it was a fully faired sports bike.

                        would cost as much as the bike itself forget that type of mods dude.

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                        is MOTUL INUGEL suitable for the 600??..coz i've already bought this!

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                        • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews &amp;amp; Experiences

                          Originally posted by gideontony View Post
                          would cost as much as the bike itself forget that type of mods dude.
                          Aliexpress has some fairings for around 44K. Besides one could try fitting a fairing from a Hyosung 650 too.

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                          • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews &amp;amp; Experiences
                            Originally posted by P3T3R View Post
                            Aliexpress has some fairings for around 44K. Besides one could try fitting a fairing from a Hyosung 650 too.
                            But why would you want to do that in the first place to such a good looking bike? Alright- the headlights look straight out of an 80s horror movie. But everything else is so damn nice

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                            • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews &amp;amp; Experiences

                              Originally posted by P3T3R View Post
                              Aliexpress has some fairings for around 44K. Besides one could try fitting a fairing from a Hyosung 650 too.
                              Looks apart, adding more weight in the form of fairing to an already heavy bike is not something you would want.

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                              • Re: Benelli TNT 600i - Owners' Reviews &amp; Experiences

                                Originally posted by Jack1976 View Post
                                Otr price of 600i in Goa is 670000.
                                Is this after the road tax increase?

                                Originally posted by shantanunirmalmitra View Post
                                But why would you want to do that in the first place to such a good looking bike?
                                Because I somehow feel that a super bike should always be fully faired.

                                Originally posted by kannanmr16 View Post
                                Looks apart, adding more weight in the form of fairing to an already heavy bike is not something you would want.
                                How much extra weight are we looking at?

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