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**vishnukmd** · 11-10-2011, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by vikhyath View Post

@Aneesh@4GHz- The chain of ZMA gets worn out sooner because it has to transmit more power.

You can also note MSN1's post where he mentioned that the chain on his older and smaller capacity bike lasted for 100k+ kms.

That is why I said there may be some design flaws in that bike. He himself said that there is tappet problem in almost all bikes, whether it is old or new. As you said, these two bikes cannot be compared together.
That chain may have lasted for 10 years and 100K kms due to the heavy coating of rust on it as it was lubed only once or twice in a year.

**vishnukmd** · 11-11-2011, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

We have a DIY(Do It Yourself) section in this forum,Kindly have a look there.You will get many exapmles for how to Clean and Lube chain and How to do an oil change.

Thanks, Aneesh. I shall try to visit that forum whenever I need and get enough free time to waste.

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

OK,Here is my answer,I was unaware of these things and i was a noob before coming to this forum,I am not saying that i am an expert now, i came to know about this forum when my bike clocked 12k,So cleaned my bike's chain @ 12k and learned many things from other members who have a sharing and helping mentality,like PSR Sir etc.

But you think you are an expert now. That is what I understand when I read between your lines. Time taken to ride a bike 12K kms is more than enough to learn everything about all the bikes. Now you are wasting your time, circling around here. Look for something creative like designing a new bike or anything like that.
But I totally agree with what you said about Sri. PSR. He was once active here but left due to some misunderstanding.

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

As per my knowledge,Tappet has no relation with chain wear.

Your knowledge is vast, wide and deep.

I clean and lube it every 1000kms and what i get is SATISFACTION![/QUOTE]

No problem. Enjoy it.

One doubt. Are you a teenager, i.e. just above a kid?

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

Then why dont you even try to learn these stuffs?

Let me laugh a little before answering it. Yes, now it is OK. I didn’t get time to learn it or anything else, Aneesh.

Thanks for making this night an enjoyable one.

**partho** · 11-11-2011, 12:23 AM

I did my first service two days back. Now during checking the engine oil level 'as per bike manual method', I saw it is above 'L' mark but below the middle line of 'H' and 'L' mark. Is it OK?
If I need to top up then adding 100 ml of Shell Advance AX5 engine oil in the engine is advisable or avoidable since the actual engine oil filled in my bike is 'Suzuki SC oil'.
Castrol Activ 4t is available in my place (village) but donot know its originality. Buying Suzuki oil will force me to go to Chennai (75 km). Kindly advice what to do. I am worried about my bike and not able to drive in fear of engine damage.
Regards.

**gmagesh14** · 11-11-2011, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by antonysg View Post

Did you ride 90 km non-stop?

Yes friend non stop riding...

Originally posted by antonysg View Post

Anyway, lets wait for the suzuki service guys to fix it.

Planning to go to SVC tomorrow., Let see what happens..

Originally posted by antonysg View Post

One more question for you gmagesh, since you have both the new and old gs150r at home.
Have you filled full tank petrol in the new gs150r? How many liters does it hold?

No never filled full tank.. Max I topped up was for 500 RS.. Something around 8ltrs in Pondicherry...

**gmagesh14** · 11-11-2011, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by partho View Post

I did my first service two days back. Now during checking the engine oil level 'as per bike manual method', I saw it is above 'L' mark but below the middle line of 'H' and 'L' mark. Is it OK?
If I need to top up then adding 100 ml of Shell Advance AX5 engine oil in the engine is advisable or avoidable since the actual engine oil filled in my bike is 'Suzuki SC oil'.
Castrol Activ 4t is available in my place (village) but donot know its originality. Buying Suzuki oil will force me to go to Chennai (75 km). Kindly advice what to do. I am worried about my bike and not able to drive in fear of engine damage.
Regards.

Partho,that's the level it should be.. Yes it should be in between Low & High mark.. Considering your bike is held straight (not in middle stand) and viewed.. No need to topup additional oil, ..

**vishnukmd** · 11-11-2011, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by partho View Post

I did my first service two days back. Now during checking the engine oil level 'as per bike manual method', I saw it is above 'L' mark but below the middle line of 'H' and 'L' mark. Is it OK?
If I need to top up then adding 100 ml of Shell Advance AX5 engine oil in the engine is advisable or avoidable since the actual engine oil filled in my bike is 'Suzuki SC oil'.
Castrol Activ 4t is available in my place (village) but donot know its originality. Buying Suzuki oil will force me to go to Chennai (75 km). Kindly advice what to do. I am worried about my bike and not able to drive in fear of engine damage.
Regards.

partho,
Start the bike and keep it idling for a few minutes, switch it off and put on centre stand on a level surface. Check the oil level after a few minutes. (The company recommends 3 minutes).
If the oil level is between “L” and “F”, it is OK. Add a little if it is below the “L” mark. Do not fill more oil than whatever is required.
Suzuki SCs are using Castrol, Veedol or some other mineral 20W40 oil. Use any 20W40 mineral oil to top up if it is necessary.
When buying oil, try to buy it from the authorized dealer of that oil.
Nothing is to happen to the engine. So, forget it and start and go for a ride, now itself.

Kshudram hridaya daurbalyam tyaktvottishta paramtapa!

**MSN1** · 11-11-2011, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post

That is why I said there may be some design flaws in that bike. He himself said that there is tappet problem in almost all bikes, whether it is old or new. As you said, these two bikes cannot be compared together.
That chain may have lasted for 10 years and 100K kms due to the heavy coating of rust on it as it was lubed only once or twice in a year.

+1 to vishnu
@ aneesh@4GHz
life of the chain is not just depending on how many kms or how many years or how much rust on it or how often you clean it.

one important factor that affects the chain life is " how you drive the bike "

if your intension is speed then chain life will be shorter because it undergoes more stress by transfering more power to wheels in short period of time.

prctical exmple:
eventhough racing bikes chains are made with better quality, its life is shorter than the one used on commuter bike.

**partho** · 11-11-2011, 09:46 AM

Thank you Vishnu and Magesh. I operated the bike for three minutes (idling) and after stopping waited for three minutes. Then I checked the oil level by keeping the bike straight. The level is slightly above the 'L' mark. So I'll slightly top up with Shell Advance AX5 (it is SAE 20W40 mineral and I brought it from Chennai authorized dealer) so that the level will reach the middle of 'F' and 'L' mark. By the way in the SC I warned them against touching the carb setting. I am getting excellent milage which is hard to believe by myself. On ECR road or highway, I am getting a little more than 68 kmpl. And in a mixed condition it is 58.2 kmpl.
Regards,
Partho.

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 11-11-2011, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post

That is why I said there may be some design flaws in that bike. He himself said that there is tappet problem in almost all bikes, whether it is old or new.

Loose tappets is not a big problem,it is recommended by company to adjust if necessary and will get solved once you adjust it.

Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post

Time taken to ride a bike 12K kms is more than enough to learn everything about all the bikes. Now you are wasting your time, circling around here.

I am only 18 now and bought the bike for my brother 6 years back,so i was only 12 years when i saw a ZMA,And i was not allowed to ride a bike unless i get a LICENCE.I got licence about 8 or 9 months back and started riding bikes,even though i started to learn these before riding a bike.

But I totally agree with what you said about Sri. PSR. He was once active here but left due to some misunderstanding.

Now i understand why he left.

**vikhyath** · 11-11-2011, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

Loose tappets is not a big problem,it is recommended by company to adjust if necessary and will get solved once you adjust it.

I am only 18 now and bought the bike for my brother 6 years back,so i was only 12 years when i saw a ZMA,And i was not allowed to ride a bike unless i get a LICENCE.I got licence about 8 or 9 months back and started riding bikes,even though i started to learn these before riding a bike.

Now i understand why he left.

Help appreciated. Thank you.

It would be appropriate to make use of this space and resource for its intended purpose rather than arguing about rights and wrongs.

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**vishnukmd** · 11-11-2011, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

Loose tappets is not a big problem,it is recommended by company to adjust if necessary and will get solved once you adjust it.

Then the lessons on tappet looseness are over. Now begin to learn how to remove and refit the seat and RVMs of the bike.

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

I am only 18 now.

I guessed it, my dear young man. Cool down. You are at the very beginning of the journey. All the best.

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

Now i understand why he left.

Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Amen.

Originally posted by vikhyath View Post

Help appreciated. Thank you.

It would be appropriate to make use of this space and resource for its intended purpose.

OK.

**vikhyath** · 11-11-2011, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post

OK.

You have a PM.

**SparKot** · 11-11-2011, 01:13 PM

Only reason I cleaned bike's chain was
- I could see the muck/sludge (or whatever you call it) on chain
- chain had developed tight and loose corners (you can't avoid it)

In Bengaluru where it rains in the evening most of the time; when you ride on fine roads fine sand always finds its way on to chain slowly.

Engine oil has turned dark; very dark!!!! not sure how much it has lost its intended properties; I've ridden 3750 kms!! on it so far. I purchased oil-filter from SVC for Rs 35/-. Read the manual for instructions regarding oil change. Since I could't find Shell AX7 Semi-Synth(out of stock), will try to replace it next weekend...

**MSN1** · 11-11-2011, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

Only reason I cleaned bike's chain was
- I could see the muck/sludge (or whatever you call it) on chain
- chain had developed tight and loose corners (you can't avoid it)

In Bengaluru where it rains in the evening most of the time; when you ride on fine roads fine sand always finds its way on to chain slowly.

Engine oil has turned dark; very dark!!!! not sure how much it has lost its intended properties; I've ridden 3750 kms!! on it so far. I purchased oil-filter from SVC for Rs 35/-. Read the manual for instructions regarding oil change. Since I could't find Shell AX7 Semi-Synth(out of stock), will try to replace it next weekend...

Me too at bangalore, during rain untill your bike travels on staginated water of more than half feet hight I didn't see heavy dust or murky entiring the closed chain compartment.

Regarding oil mineral or synthetic or what so ever type / brand it may be, the color change meant for a good oil that collects the all bad stuffs inside the engine, and their is no exception for synthetic oil. If mineral oil turns pitch black at 500 kms means synthetic will turn in to black sooner (may be around 250 or 300 kms itself.

* engine oil can be used for a max of 2500 kms - applicable to both mineral and semi synthetic.

On J C road you can find almost all brand / type oils

PM PSR ji or search engine oil thread to know more on oil.

**vishnukmd** · 11-11-2011, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

Only reason I cleaned bike's chain was
- I could see the muck/sludge (or whatever you call it) on chain
- chain had developed tight and loose corners (you can't avoid it)

In Bengaluru where it rains in the evening most of the time; when you ride on fine roads fine sand always finds its way on to chain slowly.

Engine oil has turned dark; very dark!!!! not sure how much it has lost its intended properties; I've ridden 3750 kms!! on it so far. I purchased oil-filter from SVC for Rs 35/-. Read the manual for instructions regarding oil change. Since I could't find Shell AX7 Semi-Synth(out of stock), will try to replace it next weekend...

Most of the bikers are changing oil in every alternate servicing and their bikes are running without any engine or other problems.

As you have decided to change the oil yourself, buy a socket spanner of 17 size and a wrench for the oil drain bolt and a box spanner of 8 size for the oil filter cap.
After draining the oil, tilt the bike to both sides and hold it in that position for a few minutes and bring it back to the vertical position. This will help to drain more used oil.
If the Shell oil is not available now, buy any other good brand oil and replace the oil at the earliest.

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