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  • #13606
    Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
    You dont have to clean it everyday,If open clean it every 500kms and if its closed chain,Clean and lube every 1000kms. and cleaning and lubing will increase the life of chain than lubing without cleaning.

    My point about cleaning of a fully covered chain is as simple as this: suppose a chain can be used for 30K kms without cleaning and 50K kms with regular cleaning. The SC is levying at least 100 rupees (usually it is 150/-) for every cleaning. That means, this additional life is gained by 20 such cleaning which means spending 2000 (20x100) rupees for it.
    Cost of a new chain and sprocket set for GS is mere 920/- rupees. By replacing it in 30K kms, you are saving 2000-920= 1080 rupees plus the effort for this ritual cleaning.
    Another problem is the stretching of the chain in that long run of 50K.
    Last edited by vishnukmd; 11-10-2011, 09:14 PM.

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    • #13607
      Originally posted by gmagesh14 View Post
      Yes Vishnu I'm also wondering how it had happened ..
      But I didn't mentioned it earlier,last week I had taken my bike to vellore and it had crossed 1000kms mark while reaching vellore..while returning , I drove at 70kmph (5k rpm) for some 90kms..
      I guess It might be the culprit,
      The bike has done just 1000 km on odo, so it is still in run-in.
      Riding at 70 kmph @ 5k rpm is okay, but riding like this for 90 km on a new bike???
      Did you ride 90 km non-stop?

      Anyway, lets wait for the suzuki service guys to fix it.

      One more question for you gmagesh, since you have both the new and old gs150r at home.

      Have you filled full tank petrol in the new gs150r? How many liters does it hold?

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      • #13608
        Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
        See the notches on the chain adjuster. It is, as I said earlier, 19,475 kms old chain.
        When the axle reaches the max rear position,there will be no teeth left in the sprocket.

        Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
        My point about cleaning of a fully covered chain is as simple as this: suppose a chain can be used for 30K kms without cleaning and 50K kms with regular cleaning. The SC is levying at least 100 rupees (usually it is 150/-) for every cleaning. That means, this additional life is gained by 20 such cleaning which means spending 2000 (20x100) rupees for it.
        An xBhpian going to SVC for cleaning and lubing chain? Why taking it to SVC? DIY bro,DIY! I dont know about others,might be busy with works or what ever,I have plenty of time with me,cleaning and lubing the chain in my ZMA wont take more than 30mins and its not a big job and the satisfaction you get after a DIY,Its price less.

        Cost of a new chain and sprocket set for GS is mere 920/- rupees. By replacing it in 30K kms, you are saving 2000-920= 1080 rupees plus the effort for this ritual cleaning.
        haha,100rs per cleaning,If you give your bike at SVC for cleaning and lubing chain,they will clean it with cloth and put used oil for lubing it,which inturn will increase the wear of chain.

        Another problem is the stretching of the chain in that long run of 50K.
        Who will use it upto 50K? I cant even think of it,Mine is just 17K ran 2006 ZMA and the chain and sprocket may lasts max 3k more,even though its worned out,due to financial problems,i am not going to change it now.

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        • #13609
          Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
          You dont have to clean it everyday,If open clean it every 500kms and if its closed chain,Clean and lube every 1000kms. and cleaning and lubing will increase the life of chain than lubing without cleaning.
          Chain cleaning might be required in dusty areas and rainy season.

          To remove dirt from chain, just use a chain-clean spray on chain (or dip a brush in kerosene and clean with brush). Let it dry. Then lube chain. That is more than enough i guess.

          No need to remove chain from sprocket, loosen, or adjust the chain, unless really necessary, as these require proper tools and are better done by mechanics.
          Last edited by antonysg; 11-10-2011, 10:45 PM.

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          • #13610
            Originally posted by antonysg View Post
            To remove dirt from chain, just dip a brush in kerosene and clean with brush. Let it dry. Then lube chain. That is more than enough i guess.
            I use a paint brush and diesel to clean the chain and then will pour new Engine oil or use bearing grease to lube it.

            No need to remove from sprocket, loosen, or adjust the chain unless necessary.
            Yes,You dont have to remove chain and sprocket and put it in kerosene or diesel.

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            • #13611
              chain cleaning

              i used hero honda splendor for almost 10+ years, and i never cleaned or replaced the chain.

              when i sold out the bike it was almost 1 lakhs + kms old, used to service thebike once or twice in a year.

              i uaed to tell the mehchanic to clean chain during seevicing that's it

              cleaning won't cost much just use kerosine oil and paint brush to clean it, then apply only the recomended type of grease.
              Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

              Currently Using Gusto |Enfield Bullet 500 | Ecosport Titanium+ Diesel

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              • #13612
                Originally posted by MSN1 View Post
                i uaed to tell the mehchanic to clean chain during seevicing that's it
                Local mechanics lube chain using new oil and we can believe them.

                I can believe that you havnt replaced the chain till 1lakh + kms.

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                • #13613
                  Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                  Local mechanics lube chain using new oil and we can believe them.

                  I can believe that you havnt replaced the chain till 1lakh + kms.
                  That again is something that can be debated on. It all depends on selecting the right local mechanic.

                  But back to topic, Cleaning might help the chain survive for a few more kms but its more of a hassle than its worth.
                  In today's world, quotes don't matter. Quotas do!

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                  • #13614
                    Originally posted by vikhyath View Post
                    It all depends on selecting the right local mechanic
                    Yes,one of the hardest thing is to find a good experienced and reliable local mech.

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                    • #13615
                      Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                      Yes,one of the hardest thing is to find a good experienced and reliable local mech.
                      The sad part is most of them know about only 2 bikes- HH splendor and Bajaj Pulsar.
                      That's a problem I face with my Victor and with the GS150R too. But all in all, I find the SVC more reliable as they have some rules to obey and some experienced engineers overlooking the operations. And the SVC is the direction that new users should head to.

                      _________________________________________________
                      GS150R Owners
                      In today's world, quotes don't matter. Quotas do!

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                      • #13616
                        Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                        When the axle reaches the max rear position,there will be no teeth left in the sprocket.

                        Thanks for sharing this very grate, valuable knowledge. I was totally ignorant about it.

                        Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                        An xBhpian going to SVC for cleaning and lubing chain? Why taking it to SVC? DIY bro,DIY! I dont know about others,might be busy with works or what ever,I have plenty of time with me,cleaning and lubing the chain in my ZMA wont take more than 30mins and its not a big job and the satisfaction you get after a DIY,Its price less.



                        Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                        haha,100rs per cleaning,If you give your bike at SVC for cleaning and lubing chain,they will clean it with cloth and put used oil for lubing it,which inturn will increase the wear of chain.




                        Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                        Who will use it upto 50K? I cant even think of it,Mine is just 17K ran 2006 ZMA and the chain and sprocket may lasts max 3k more,even though its worned out,due to financial problems,i am not going to change it now.

                        It may be due to some manufacturing/design flaw of that bike as in the case of its tappet and some other engine parts. If it is true, what do you get by cleaning it regularly in every 500 kms? Try lubing without cleaning next time, as I do.

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                        • #13617
                          @Aneesh@4GHz- The chain of ZMA gets worn out sooner because it has to transmit more power. It is in a different segment. Hence you would need to take more care for it to last.
                          The GS150R however is a different bike and it has lesser power to transmit. This considerably reduces chain wear. You can also note MSN1's post where he mentioned that the chain on his older and smaller capacity bike lasted for 100k+ kms.

                          What I mean to say is comparing the two bikes is like comparing lemons and oranges because both are round and both are juicy.
                          In today's world, quotes don't matter. Quotas do!

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                          • #13618
                            Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                            I can believe that you havnt replaced the chain till 1lakh + kms.

                            Probably yes because miracles still happen. He said that his bike was serviced once or twice in a year and the chain was cleaned while those servicing; not in every 500 kms.

                            Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                            Yes,one of the hardest thing is to find a good experienced and reliable local mech.


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                            • #13619
                              Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                              What about bikers
                              We have a DIY(Do It Yourself) section in this forum,Kindly have a look there.You will get many exapmles for how to Clean and Lube chain and How to do an oil change.

                              OK,Here is my answer,I was unaware of these things and i was a noob before coming to this forum,I am not saying that i am an expert now, i came to know about this forum when my bike clocked 12k,So cleaned my bike's chain @ 12k and learned many things from other members who have a sharing and helping mentality,like PSR Sir etc.

                              It may be due to some manufacturing/design flaw of that bike as in the case of its tappet and some other engine parts.
                              As per my knowledge,Tappet has no relation with chain wear.

                              what do you get by cleaning it regularly in every 500 kms?
                              I clean and lube it every 1000kms and what i get is SATISFACTION!

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                              • #13620
                                Originally posted by vikhyath View Post
                                @Aneesh@4GHz- The chain of ZMA gets worn out sooner because it has to transmit more power. It is in a different segment. Hence you would need to take more care for it to last.
                                Thanks bro. Thats a point i missed.

                                Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                                Probably yes because miracles still happen. He said that his bike was serviced once or twice in a year and the chain was cleaned while those servicing; not in every 500 kms.
                                Answered.
                                Originally posted by vikhyath View Post
                                @Aneesh@4GHz- The chain of ZMA gets worn out sooner because it has to transmit more power. It is in a different segment. Hence you would need to take more care for it to last.
                                I am living in a remote village. Such a mechanic is not available anywhere here.
                                Then why dont you even try to learn these stuffs?

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