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  • Originally posted by firegun View Post
    I think, it works as per in the below diagram, if so then engine will start using Remote but i too dont know exactly
    This is not what I doubt Dr.Arul.The remote ignition system just signals up a remote sensing conduit which in turn activates the electric starter motor assay.This is how it happens............I doubt on a bike without electric start how it would work though.

    What concerns me is that our electric starter system do not work if the clutch is engaged and the bike is in gear and the engine is turned off.Our GS150R uses a kind of interlocking system.When the clutch is disengaged, the electric starter motor is free to rotate and if the bike is off, then it turns on.

    So, if my bike is in gear and the engine is turned off with the clutch engage, how can the remote starter activate the electric starter at all ???? So that the bike lunges forward without anyone at the controls and drops itself ????
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    • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
      This is not what I doubt Dr.Arul.The remote ignition system just signals up a remote sensing conduit which in turn activates the electric starter motor assay.This is how it happens............I doubt on a bike without electric start how it would work though.

      What concerns me is that our electric starter system do not work if the clutch is engaged and the bike is in gear and the engine is turned off.Our GS150R uses a kind of interlocking system.When the clutch is disengaged, the electric starter motor is free to rotate and if the bike is off, then it turns on.

      So, if my bike is in gear and the engine is turned off with the clutch engage, how can the remote starter activate the electric starter at all ???? So that the bike lunges forward without anyone at the controls and drops itself ????
      Ok , i am going to fit the remote tomorrow then i will cross check every thing and report it back
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      • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
        This is not what I doubt Dr.Arul.The remote ignition system just signals up a remote sensing conduit which in turn activates the electric starter motor assay.This is how it happens............I doubt on a bike without electric start how it would work though.

        What concerns me is that our electric starter system do not work if the clutch is engaged and the bike is in gear and the engine is turned off.Our GS150R uses a kind of interlocking system.When the clutch is disengaged, the electric starter motor is free to rotate and if the bike is off, then it turns on.

        So, if my bike is in gear and the engine is turned off with the clutch engage, how can the remote starter activate the electric starter at all ???? So that the bike lunges forward without anyone at the controls and drops itself ????
        There's no special interlock system in GS. it's as normal as all other bikes with starter. We have to disengage clutch to activate a switch near clutch lever, which in turn lets us to use the starter.
        we don't have to disengage clutch in neutral to start the bike with kick.
        There is a stater clutch mechanism to facilitate starter motor engagement & disengagement while starting & after engine starts running respectively.
        also there is an electric switch in gearbox to ensure bike is in neutral while starting. so remote starting without disengaging clutch is more to do with electrical system than mechanical parts.

        FYI: i've attached some starter clutch images for a rough idea. it's also called as one way clutch. Even i wasn't aware of such clutch system, saw it on my friend's apache when that bike refused to even press the kick. that apache's starter clutch was broken and trapped in flywheel
        anything that can go wrong will surely go wrong at the wrong time and the wrong place

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        • Hi,
          The time has come for me to change the engine oil again.

          I couldnt decide which one to buy so i bought two bottles.
          Gulf pride 4t plus (cost 199) and castrol power 1 (15w40) (cost 299).

          What is the life of castrol (supposed to be SS oil) and is it ok if i use castrol first and then switch back to gulf which is mineral ?
          And is the castrol power 1 15w40 a good oil ? I guess some comm members are using it, thats why i bought it.

          (currently using motul 3000 4t mineral, the gear shifts are still smooth even though i've used the oil for 5 months/2500kms)

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          • Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
            that apache's starter clutch was broken and trapped in flywheel
            whats that my friend & where the hell have you been ?
            been calling you ur cell has been out of range? changed your number or were out on a trip? & howz u?
            btw

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            • Originally posted by firegun View Post
              Ok , i am going to fit the remote tomorrow then i will cross check every thing and report it back
              this is awesome mileage my friend tell me one thing do u raise to 4/4.5 k rpm & then shift or shift as soon as possible to reach the possible highest gear ? & also DR. arul ur driving i salute to it? so less days & so much of riding i 'll tell you are a lucky guy.
              that mileage tester cost rs. 100 so is it good in quality can be used multiple times na?

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              • Originally posted by vulcan View Post
                my friend tell me one thing do u raise to 4/4.5 k rpm & then shift or shift as soon as possible to reach the possible highest gear ?
                yea, I will shift the gears as soon as possible mostly 2.5-3.5K of RPM and also i dont allow engine knocking at any stage.



                Originally posted by vulcan View Post
                ur driving i salute to it? so less days & so much of riding i 'll tell you are a lucky guy.
                Thank you


                Originally posted by vulcan View Post
                that mileage tester cost rs. 100 so is it good in quality can be used multiple times na?
                Yea just i made a complete testing with the CAN, i spend this hole day for this,
                some socking reports are in the upcoming posts
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                • Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
                  There's no special interlock system in GS. it's as normal as all other bikes with starter.
                  I doubt it...........since, many other bikes do not require a clutch disengagement in neutral to get started up with the electric start(i am leaving the kick starter out of this) motor.

                  Next, an interlocking system can be both mechanical or electronic.....but there exists this sytem on our bike, as I had been enlightened by Suzuki's work station mechanics.
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                  • Originally posted by thefalcon View Post
                    Hi,
                    The time has come for me to change the engine oil again.

                    I couldnt decide which one to buy so i bought two bottles.
                    Gulf pride 4t plus (cost 199) and castrol power 1 (15w40) (cost 299).

                    What is the life of castrol (supposed to be SS oil) and is it ok if i use castrol first and then switch back to gulf which is mineral ?
                    And is the castrol power 1 15w40 a good oil ? I guess some comm members are using it, thats why i bought it.

                    (currently using motul 3000 4t mineral, the gear shifts are still smooth even though i've used the oil for 5 months/2500kms)
                    Castrol SS would be sweet till first 500 kms after which you won't find much diffrence of it from castrol mineral one.

                    Gulf is good till 2000 kms later you have to change it

                    So my take is both are almost same

                    But gulf will give some marginal diffrence in smoothness and performance.

                    And both are not close tp motul
                    Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

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                    • Today i played with Carb Golded Screw and i made a small report of it

                      Hello Friends
                      Today i spend the hole day with optimizing the Mileage by tuning the Golden Screw(tested with Different tune setting), Everything i made are something like Trial and Error and i myself came to a conclusion.

                      1. Worst mileage due to Worst tunning




                      2.This is the Extreme Mileage i got but top end performance is too bad( above 58kmph huge jerking starts and engine dies)




                      3.Here is the Best optimized setting for My GS on Echo mode




                      4.Same optimized setting for My GS on Power mode



                      5.Same optimized setting for My GS on Non light mode(uncle or god's mode)



                      6.while the petrol knob is closed, petrol in the Carburetor of my GS covers about 1.7km




                      Conclusion.
                      1. For tunning the Golden screw i came to know one thing that is we dont need huge turns for tunning. For Example if turn the Golden screw for about 1 or 2 mm the Result will differ of about 1-1.2 km per 100ml of petrol, so we need much calm in tunning this Golden Screw.

                      2. I was socked with the different mileage obtained while in different Modes at same carb. Settings(please i request some senior members to Explain why there is such difference in mileage while switching the Modes)


                      Notes:
                      1. I used 100ml of Petrol for every Test i made
                      2. Before Starting each and every test it is clear that the Carb. was emptied until the engine dies.
                      3. I ride every test around 4 - 5.5k RPM


                      Foot Note: Guys Please make your comments or suggestion or ideas about this Small Research
                      Last edited by firegun; 08-15-2011, 01:03 AM.
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                      • Originally posted by thefalcon View Post
                        Hi,
                        The time has come for me to change the engine oil again.

                        I couldnt decide which one to buy so i bought two bottles.
                        Gulf pride 4t plus (cost 199) and castrol power 1 (15w40) (cost 299).

                        What is the life of castrol (supposed to be SS oil) and is it ok if i use castrol first and then switch back to gulf which is mineral ?
                        And is the castrol power 1 15w40 a good oil ? I guess some comm members are using it, thats why i bought it.

                        (currently using motul 3000 4t mineral, the gear shifts are still smooth even though i've used the oil for 5 months/2500kms)

                        I am continuously using 15W-40 Castrol Power 1 for the last 10 or more years. For the former bike, I was changing it in every 3000 kms and now in every 2000-2500.
                        I wonder how MSN 1 did check the viscosity of Castrol Power 1 after using 500 kms and Gulf after using 2000 kms.
                        Hope he has tested Motul after 500 and 2000 kms to compare it with Castrol and Gulf oils and may post here the result of his test.






                        Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                        I doubt it...........since, many other bikes do not require a clutch disengagement in neutral to get started up with the electric start(i am leaving the kick starter out of this) motor.

                        Next, an interlocking system can be both mechanical or electronic.....but there exists this sytem on our bike, as I had been enlightened by Suzuki's work station mechanics.


                        The battery connection to the starter switch is through a switch in clutch lever assembly which is ‘ON’ when the clutch lever is squeezed and ‘OFF’ when it is released.
                        The remote starter is bypassing this switch; I think.
                        The only electric connection to the gear box is to the GP SENSOR (Gear Position Sensor). It is from the CDI and is to the gear position indicator in the speedometer console.
                        And the GS can be started using the ES in any gear, provided the clutch lever is squeezed.
                        Last edited by vishnukmd; 08-15-2011, 02:04 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by firegun View Post
                          Foot Note: Guys Please make your comments or suggestion or ideas about this Small Research

                          Fantastic!

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                          • No my feedback on castrol power 1 SS, gulf and motul is based on my experiance on using those on my GS.

                            I haven't tested the vescosity but its based on how the bike responds and behaves while using those oils

                            While using castrol SS (almost more than a year back so its not the latest jaso ma2 castrol)

                            Bike goes well till 500 kms after wards it was rough gear changing will became tough.

                            With gulf the color stays good till 2000 kms but when I chech the oil after taking it out it was much thicker.

                            Well done Arul nice info,
                            Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

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                            • Originally posted by MSN1 View Post
                              No my feedback on castrol power 1 SS, gulf and motul is based on my experiance on using those on my GS.

                              I haven't tested the vescosity but its based on how the bike responds and behaves while using those oils

                              While using castrol SS (almost more than a year back so its not the latest jaso ma2 castrol)

                              Bike goes well till 500 kms after wards it was rough gear changing will became tough.

                              With gulf the color stays good till 2000 kms but when I chech the oil after taking it out it was much thicker.

                              Well done Arul nice info,






                              Now, some of the claims of Castrol about their Tri Zone technology are removed from the label on the jar.

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                              • Originally posted by firegun View Post
                                Hello Friends
                                Conclusion.
                                1. For tunning the Golden screw i came to know one thing that is we dont need huge turns for tunning. For Example if turn the Golden screw for about 1 or 2 mm the Result will differ of about 1-1.2 km per 100ml of petrol, so we need much calm in tunning this Golden Screw.

                                2. I was socked with the different mileage obtained while in different Modes at same carb. Settings(please i request some senior members to Explain why there is such difference in mileage while switching the Modes)


                                Notes:
                                1. I used 100ml of Petrol for every Test i made
                                2. Before Starting each and every test it is clear that the Carb. was emptied until the engine dies.
                                3. I ride every test around 4 - 5.5k RPM


                                Foot Note: Guys Please make your comments or suggestion or ideas about this Small Research

                                Gr8 find.... n thx for postin the pics to support ur results.... have always felt the difference between the modes but dont have time to put in the patient experimentation which u hav done n shared with us on the forum... what everyone knows is that the modes r there for rpm light which suggests the user for optimum gearshift.... some pages back a user also confirmed this with the suzuki official rep n he had the same ans.... i have also seen a huge mileage difference between eco n pwr modes while travelling loong distances on weekends.... my mileage has at a point gone to as low as 35Kmpl in PWR mode..... so have stopped using it altogether except when i need to rip the bike from a standstill (but then the top speed gets limited to 100Kmph cant go beyond that).... so on a long ride i use god mode n in city i use eco mode... i get a mileage of 47-49Kmpl from the beginning till date.... n yes i do envy ur mileage figures

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