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  • Originally posted by pavan_cin View Post
    Doubt :
    Yesterday evening i went to bigbazaar and while coming back my GS is skidded
    and i have fall at 10KMPH speed while turning right as the ground cement plastering is very smooth.
    Luckyly i didnt have any scratches and my bike also. there is some neglizable scratches on indicator,guard and headlight.
    Is lower tyre pressure caused the skid? can some one elaborate it? what may be the cause for skidding at that much lower speed?
    Look at the coincidence dude.. I'm here at xbhp after a month just to report about my weird crash.. It happened exactly the same way it did to you.. Same right turn, same type cement, same 10KPH..But its caused issues,many many which I shall elaborate in my next post !
    " A man is also known by the bike he rides :D "

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    • Originally posted by chiragwarm View Post
      Look at the coincidence dude.. I'm here at xbhp after a month just to report about my weird crash.. It happened exactly the same way it did to you.. Same right turn, same type cement, same 10KPH..But its caused issues,many many which I shall elaborate in my next post !
      At good speed weight of the vehicle acts positively when in comes to breaking, and that too in straight line.

      At low speed and not in straight line if you apply breaks, possibility to get skid is high because just calculate where the CG (center of gravity) acts while turning.

      @Mach50,

      Even though the pictures are from mobile the brightness is much visible and it looks wow!!!

      Once you are done with the HID setup, do remember to check and update us on life and discharge frequency of battery. Also check if the self start works because that needs more power from battery
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      • Originally posted by MSN1 View Post
        Once you are done with the HID setup, do remember to check and update us on life and discharge frequency of battery. Also check if the self start works because that needs more power from battery

        Self start works normal as usual, pass light works as usual,everything is normal.

        All small lights converted to white LEDs, HID has been installed and it is bright white light.Sound of the horn has increased.

        If you ride the bike or just keep all lights switched on including the indicators,even by turning engine off, you would never know if the bike has been worked on or not or if there is a battery drain.It is good as and optimized as the stock set-up with better electricals.Charging current has got huge boost and charging rate is normal with respect to time.

        No worries about battery life as because the rectifier used is an example of most modern technological prowess and sophistication.The battery is allowed charge only till the time it needs.The rest of the current is dissipated as heat by the rectifier and is stored in small amounts on the capacitors integrated to the rectifier.

        Just waiting for the evening to see its charismatic brightness.........would upload pics and maybe also a small video.


        A totally different issue which might be of concern to fellow GS owners:
        I had an annoying experience today and this mainly due to the ignorance of SVC people at both main and sub dealers.
        From the day I bought my bike and after six services with oil-change according to the grade.........the O-ring has never been changed by the SVC.A day before yesterday when I took the bike to the main SVC I repeatedly ask the SVC manager that I need the O-ring changed according to the owner's manual before using the costly Motul300V.
        But the ignorant man told that O-ring change is not needed and he has a lot in his stock.
        Today I found my engine -oil level low .........thanks to the rains, the dry muds on the engine oil chamber now shows clear marks of oil leaking out of the oil-filter chamber.
        When taken to my mechanic chacha......he told without any doubt that the O-ring is a goner and it is not safe to ride the vehicle with this dangerously low engine oil level.He told me to buy all O-rings from the company stock so that in future I do not face this problem anymore.

        Just ignoring the periodical O-ring change instructed by Suzuki by its own service personnel has caused me a loss of 900 bucks .......I need another can of 300V now, a new oil-filter which would be changed along with the O-ring.This is irritating.......I work hard for making my money and unnecessary expenditure is what I totally despise. It rings me more that my beloved vehicle is taking the beat everytime because of fault of others

        Having knowledge is one thing but not abiding by protocols can cause disasters.This should be known by all service personnel working at Suzuki SVC.

        So my suggestion for all fellow GS riders, please insist O-ring change at your SVCs according to the owner's manual if you want to keep your bike evergreen.
        Last edited by MACH50; 06-21-2011, 03:52 PM.
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        • @MACH50: I empathize over the unnecessary amount spent, but atleast you realized it&took preventive measures before the low engine oil level affected the engine!
          So alls well that ends well!

          @All: Is there any makeover/phaseout expected for the GS? One of my friends is eager to buy, but has heard some rumors from showroom folks itself.
          Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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          • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
            @All: Is there any makeover/phaseout expected for the GS? One of my friends is eager to buy, but has heard some rumors from showroom folks itself.
            Yes.........a new model of GS150R is upcoming, if your friend orders now, he will get the new one after a couple of months or so.

            The 2010 model is no more available at most dealers.
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            • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post

              A totally different issue which might be of concern to fellow GS owners:
              I had an annoying experience today and this mainly due to the ignorance of SVC people at both main and sub dealers.
              From the day I bought my bike and after six services with oil-change according to the grade.........the O-ring has never been changed by the SVC.A day before yesterday when I took the bike to the main SVC I repeatedly ask the SVC manager that I need the O-ring changed according to the owner's manual before using the costly Motul300V.
              But the ignorant man told that O-ring change is not needed and he has a lot in his stock.
              Today I found my engine -oil level low ......thanks to the rains, the dry muds on the engine oil chamber now shows clear marks of oil leaking out of the oil-filter chamber.
              When taken to my mechanic chacha......he told without any doubt that the O-ring is a goner and it is not safe to ride the vehicle with this dangerously low engine oil level.He told me to buy all O-rings from the company stock so that in future I do not face this problem anymore.

              Just ignoring the periodical O-ring change instructed by Suzuki by its own service personnel has caused me a loss of 900 bucks .......

              Having knowledge is one thing but not abiding by protocols can cause disasters.This should be known by all service personnel working at Suzuki SVC.

              So my suggestion for all fellow GS riders, please insist O-ring change at your SVCs according to the owner's manual if you want to keep your bike evergreen.

              The O rings are never replaced at the time of servicing or oil changing. Replacing is not needed unless it is worn out.

              The spare O rings we get from the sc are not in a perfect O shape but twisted and is difficult to fit in the groove of the filter cover.
              I haven’t yet replaced the O ring of my Fiero which is 1.3 lakh kms old or GS which is 17 k kms old. The both, I think, are in the ‘ever green’ condition.

              There are many instructions in the manual like cleaning the oil strainer screen, which we never do. This instruction is one among them.

              If anyone from Suzuki SC is here, please hear it and do accordingly.

              You are the first one converting GS to full DC. Congratulations.

              The O ring we get from the SC.


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              • i have a doubt. are the wheels (rims) covered under warranty?
                All peace Bro. xD

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                • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
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                  You are the first one converting GS to full DC. Congratulations.
                  Thanks for the congratulations

                  The wearing out of O-ring is a rare incident and so is the a bent front sprocket and a chain cover which messes with the chain of my bike occasionally.

                  Even our Fiero too has never seen a change of O-ring despite the fact that the silencer pipe has broken a few times and the bike has had a lot of daily rough use and other issues.

                  It so happens that different issues comes on different machines.

                  What Suzuki has to say is that, to follow the maintainence schedule stringently.Also they did not increase words in the owner's manual unnecessarily.

                  Hence it is Suzuki which knows that their bikes needs to show there prowess anywhere and everywhere.For that the bike would be used. And if a machinery is used, wear and tear abides by the universally recognized force of friction.The saying "a stitch in time saves nine" must have a reason-an Oring do not cost much, it maybe a negligible component for any bike.

                  But for a bike which has to be versatile and has to achieve........things must be perfectly in place.
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                  • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                    Thanks for the congratulations

                    The wearing out of O-ring is a rare incident and so is the a bent front sprocket and a chain cover which messes with the chain of my bike occasionally.

                    Even our Fiero too has never seen a change of O-ring despite the fact that the silencer pipe has broken a few times and the bike has had a lot of daily rough use and other issues.

                    It so happens that different issues comes on different machines.

                    What Suzuki has to say is that, to follow the maintainence schedule stringently.Also they did not increase words in the owner's manual unnecessarily.

                    Hence it is Suzuki which knows that their bikes needs to show there prowess anywhere and everywhere.For that the bike would be used. And if a machinery is used, wear and tear abides by the universally recognized force of friction.The saying "a stitch in time saves nine" must have a reason-an Oring do not cost much, it maybe a negligible component for any bike.

                    But for a bike which has to be versatile and has to achieve........things must be perfectly in place.

                    Mach ,

                    Even i faced oil leak issue immediately after oil + oil filter change, what i did was approached my local mechanic and tighten the three screws thats on cover of the oil filter, then its stopped things are fine
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                    • Originally posted by ElectricGoat View Post
                      i have a doubt. are the wheels (rims) covered under warranty?

                      Yes for manufacturing defects and no for defects like bend occurred during ride.

                      Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                      What Suzuki has to say is that, to follow the maintainence schedule stringently.Also they did not increase words in the owner's manual unnecessarily.

                      I can and I do understand your feelings and I am sure that you are right. But, the O ring is a seal, preventing oil from coming outside. It is not a component like the air or oil filter which needs periodic replacement.

                      Anyway, it is a mistake of the mechanic. But, as Madhu said, did you check the tightness of the bolts of the oil filter cap?

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                      • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post

                        But, as Madhu said, did you check the tightness of the bolts of the oil filter cap?
                        First thing,No.......I didn't .

                        Second thing..........on a BMW Motorrad forum, I found that oil-filter o-ring should be replaced while switching to a new grade of engine oil.I think the Motul 300V oil change just required more than meager Oil-filter change.(but this leaking has occurred before too......though in low proportions to be of any concern at all)

                        Tomorrow, I am going to replace the old O-ring with an entirely new one and then make sure that the after the engine-oil refill and oil-filter change........the bolts get fixed tightly and well.
                        Last edited by MACH50; 06-22-2011, 01:39 AM.
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                        • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                          First thing,No.......I didn't .

                          Second thing..........on a BMW Motorrad forum, I found that oil-filter o-ring should be replaced while switching to a new grade of engine oil.I think the Motul 300V oil change just required more than meager Oil-filter change.(but this leaking has occurred before too......though in low proportions to be of any concern at all)

                          Tomorrow, I am going to replace the old O-ring with an entirely new one and then make sure that the after the engine-oil refill and oil-filter change........the bolts get fixed tightly and well.


                          Usually the mechanics are applying a bit of grease on the O ring to keep it in place. Anyway, in future, ensure that everything is properly fitted.

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                          • mach where are the pics???
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                            • Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                              mach where are the pics???
                              sorry man.......was too busy today on the work front......and the unforgiving rains aren't helping the case.

                              Moreover amid these I made a journey to the Suzuki main-dealer 60kms away from my city, to get new O-rings.....you know my hands were full of it........literally.I know my pains.......but still I like to live it.
                              Tomorrow I would try my best to upload the pics.

                              Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                              The spare O rings we get from the sc are not in a perfect O shape but twisted and is difficult to fit in the groove of the filter cover.

                              The O ring we get from the SC.

                              Vishnu..........maybe this picture below is what might change your perception.
                              This is the picture of the oil filter O-ring the Suzuki main dealer supplied me today,its a SGP spare :

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                              • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                                Vishnu..........maybe this picture below is what might change your perception.
                                This is the picture of the oil filter O-ring the Suzuki main dealer supplied me today,its a SGP spare :

                                Nice. Ask the Suzuki mechanic or your mechanic chacha’ about this O ring and ask how it can cause an oil leak.

                                Have you ever tried to replace the oil filter yourself?

                                These are the O rings used inside the GS’s oil filter cap.


                                Last edited by vishnukmd; 06-23-2011, 03:03 AM.

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