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  • Originally posted by thefalcon View Post
    try tuning your carb by trial and error method.
    1st try, put the golden fuel screw to lock position (clockwise) and turn it 1.5 turns (360 + 180 degrees) in anti clockwise, now measure mileage anyway you like (100 mljar or r2r or full tank).

    After that put it to 2 turns and try again, (if you feel that engine was getting over heated or there wasnt enough pickup with 1.5 setting).
    I'm currently at 2 turns, i was getting 51kmpl at 1.5, but felt guilty that i was chocking the bike so made it 2. now i get 48.5 or 49 kmpl.

    At 2.5 turns i get 47-48kmpl, and 3 turns i was getting 46-47kmpl.
    Might help, tuning by other methods (which involve lookign at a steady idle rpm at each setting, or the engine beat) dont work very well, because the idle rpm has little fluctuation at every setting, and the beat is to silent to tell if its smooth or rough.

    i feel the best indication to check overheating is idle rpm, if the hot idle is 500rpm more than the cold idle, then its probably getting overheated,
    ideally it should be 1000 for cold, and 1300 for hot.(300 difference)
    Thanks falcon, I will try this
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    • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
      Would convert the bike to full DC on Monday and install the HID. more to come up, watch my updates

      You are the first one trying to convert GS to full DC. I have planned it a few months ago but dropped the idea due to some reasons. You can see my postings about it in this thread, some pages back.

      In villages, facilities we get are poor. It was difficult to find out someone to rewind the stator coil. The other difficulty was finding out a suitable rr unit. Re-routing the electrical wiring was another problem.

      Now you are materializing that idea. Hearty congratulations and best wishes.

      This is the picture of our stock stator coil.







      Originally posted by benjamin View Post
      gear shifting is little bit tight, i smell something like plastic burning from right side. Don't know what's that exactly... and headlight power is little bit low
      Originally posted by gs150r View Post
      Thanks falcon, I will try this

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      • @vishnu

        1)Could you please explain the "Gear shifting at what correct speed / engine rpm."

        2)do we need to use half clutch play or full while engaging the gear...


        3)Most say that using 55/60 watt will melt the factory holder,how much true in it,are you using it?


        4)can any one let me know if using iridium plug will improve the performance of the bike..like smooth idling and smooth engine ride at higher rpms?

        mileage largely depends on the quality and accurate quantity of fuel from a fuel dispenser station and vishnu inspite you from rular/semiurban(from your postings) you are getting quality and near accurate fuel form you area bunks...thats great...inspite of living in citys we are getting adulterated and under weighed fuel
        Last edited by nagthemissile; 06-19-2011, 08:04 PM.

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        • Few thoughts

          * if we don't know something don't try it until you learn it completely, if your expert in onething then don't forget it. Yes this is for carb tuning now your mileage may be poor, but if you tune it their are 80 % possibilty in making the bike performance+mileage to worst

          * in our GS the nightmare is not the bulb its the design of the reflector in the headlight unit.

          * in many bikes after converting to DC they used "piagio" RR unit for DC.

          * on low beam GS light is wide spread so it won't be bright enough as its not focused towards one particular place.
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          • Mileage

            Hi Friends,

            I checked the mileage of my GS and found it to be a decent 46.5 kms / litre.

            I checked by the following method:

            1) As advised by some of you here, I filled the tank upto the brim. I made a note of the Kms on ODO. (it was 3289 kms)

            2) I rode the bike for 182 kms and again filled upto the brim.

            3) The petrol filled was 3.9 litres and distance travelled was 182 kms.

            So mileage got is 46.5 kms/litre..

            I have mostly rode the bike in ECO mode and run it daily for close to 35 kms on the highway in mostly 60 - 65 kms /hr speed.

            Hope it improves a bit as my bike gets older..
            Ride Safe so U can Live to Ride another Day!

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            • Suzuki !!!!

              People have many compromises in life, so do I.
              I always lacked the comfort and love of a proper Suzuki workshop and main-dealer,yet being located in one of the biggest metropolis.

              But the opulence and technology of the Suzuki workshop became very clear today as I went to the main-dealer who is located in a town of another district of my state.I have to travel 60 kilometers to reach there.Which means making a journey of 120kms in all through typical Indian rural roads to reach such a place, just for sake of quality of service. !!!!

              This is the first time I got my vehicle there to be serviced in a real workshop instead of the kiosk SVC of my city.

              The knowledge of the service mechanics there was magnificent, they know everything about the GS150R, can identify the problem anywhere and everywhere just by riding it.

              It goes without saying that I got a new GS150R once the service on my vehicle was done.My GS150R suddenly got all of its one year age lost at once......and felt beautiful and new again !!!!

              There were quite a few things that were kept unchecked by the sub-dealer SVC of my city,
              1.The Front sprocket on my bike was a defective one from Day 1, its teeths were worn and were carved, when it was explored today.........got a new one.
              2.The Speedometer which was messed-up by my city SVC has been finally rectified by the SVC,the digital speedo is now fully ok and does not show any abruptness anymore.The sensor-subsidiary that was attached to the front sprocket was dangling lose inside !!!
              3.Motul 300V 1200ml with oil-filter and O-ring change !!!- my vehicle does not even heat after or while traveling at 110kmph now,it is as smooth as a new bike to ride even after redline figures.
              4.Handle hub adjusted,throttle unit set according to stock specifications,it is totally light now.
              5.Rear wheel aligned correctly ,chain tensioned perfectly,Spark plug judged mechanically.
              6.Spark plug cap is of Zeus 125cc which has been mated to Splitfire coil.

              All these has contributed to the fact that vibrations on my bike has gone from some to none..........it is an exactly vibration less bike.Sounding as soft as a new machine might be,and now even after harsh riding it remains so.

              Very satisfied by the behavior and knowledge of Suzuki trained mechanics, they are awesome.
              My bike is all set to enter next level

              Few pictures from the SVC :

              Exploded engine parts of Zeus 125 and Heat diagram.

              Components of a State of Art workshop !!!

              The engine assembling bay !!!!

              GS150Rs.........a test vehicle along with two other service vehicles.

              My bike awaiting service along with new Slingshot and a GS150R without engine

              My bike getting done very nicely alongside another GS150R, which is younger than my bike but looks old

              The customer rest lounge :
              This lounge generally is to feed customers with Suzuki feel, its walls bears pictures of all CBU bikes sold by Suzuki in India.....ie, Hayabusa,Bandit,Intruder and GSXR1000........but it was very odd to find a new Bking poster too !!!!!!!!!!! (it implies upcoming.........!!!!! )




              The Showroom
              You would not be able to spot one goddamn GS150R here...........it is full of Slingshots.I now know the reason well and have been informed about the fate of GS150R which would be officially correct.






              This truck was waiting outside .............full of new Suzuki bikes enticing thought

              The Fate of GS150R........
              Have a good look at the Slingshot, it does not looks bad by 125cc standards,it borrows its crown fairing naked design from the Bking-GSR lineage.
              Well, the new GS150R may sport a this naked look.........it will get a new body, updated machinery but similar 150cc engine, new tank, new graphics and ultimately an entirely new name.
              What I have been told it might be GS150R +-xy....but the GS150 name remains.....it maybe called GSX150 or something like that.
              So,have a look at Slingshot:





              New Bikes from Suzuki.....
              GS150R would be entirely refreshed........just like Zeus/Heat gave way to Slingshot.Hence expect the new GS150R to be something like what is CB Dazzler to CB Unicorn.
              Suzuki is very busy now with a new 110cc bike which can provide competition to the CB Twister.......no 180cc bike on their agenda.
              Suzuki Access 125 refreshed.
              Suzuki GW250 in festive season of Diwali or Christmas.
              That's all............this sets my decision right for upgrading my GS150R my own way.


              GS150R 2010 has better electronics.......but still a step away

              With more poles on the stator coil and similar length of wires along with new RR series.......GS150R is just a step away from full DC electronic systems.I would not be surprised if the new model gets one

              Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
              This is the picture of our stock stator coil.




              Vishnu ...........the stator assay on the 2010 has changed for better, it now has 12 poles........here see the image of the new one which I bought to work on .......I have got all my blue print ready, just waiting for the next 2 days

              Last edited by MACH50; 06-20-2011, 12:38 AM.
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              • Originally posted by nagthemissile View Post
                @vishnu

                1)Could you please explain the "Gear shifting at what correct speed / engine rpm."

                2)do we need to use half clutch play or full while engaging the gear...


                3)Most say that using 55/60 watt will melt the factory holder,how much true in it,are you using it?


                4)can any one let me know if using iridium plug will improve the performance of the bike..like smooth idling and smooth engine ride at higher rpms?

                mileage largely depends on the quality and accurate quantity of fuel from a fuel dispenser station and vishnu inspite you from rular/semiurban(from your postings) you are getting quality and near accurate fuel form you area bunks...thats great...inspite of living in citys we are getting adulterated and under weighed fuel

                1. At around 2.5 k rpm in plain road.

                2. Full. But, if you are shifting up or down the gear at the correct rpm / speed, no clutch is needed except for the 1st gear. Most of us are doing this kind of gear shifting without knowing it.

                3. I am using Osram NB from 15/12/10. Whatever this “most” say about the melting of the bulb holder or reflector is not true. Even a 100/90 watt bulb may not melt the holder or reflector because it cannot produce the necessary heat to do so for want of sufficient current.

                4. Using iridium plug from 9/10/10, when my odo reading was 8700. These plugs are meant for high performance bikes; not for ordinary 100-150 cc ones. But there is a plus point that frequent cleaning and gap adjusting is not necessary for this spark plug. Don’t expect anything more from it.

                Nowadays, adulterating petrol in the bunk is not easy. It is mostly done either at the time of taking delivery or on the way to the bunk. Same is the case of delivering less quantity from the bunk. The meter in the petrol pump is sealed by the petroleum company. So it is not easy to tamper it.

                More than that, the auto rickshaw and taxi drivers are keenly watching the quantity of fuel given from the pump. So, if you are paying for 10 liters of fuel, you are getting 10 liters or, at least 9.95 liters. If any doubt, collect it in a plastic can or jar and measure later.

                There are easy ways such as filter paper test to check the quality of the petrol. If you don’t like to check it at the pump, you can do it later and complain to the legal metrological or civil supplies department.

                Please remember that if you are not ready to do anything, you get / deserve nothing.

                Lastly, it is true. I am a villager. And that is why I am ‘me’. Most of us villagers are like this; without any pretention.

                Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                Vishnu ...........the stator assay on the 2010 has changed for better, it now has 12 poles........here see the image of the new one which I bought to work on .......I have got all my blue print ready, just waiting for the next 2 days


                Mach50, these facilities and machineries are available at all the main service centers of Suzuki. The mechanics there are trained by the company too. That is why I asked to buy the bike from the main dealer only.

                I have heard about this modified coil but didn’t notice it mainly because it is a rarely repaired or replaced part.
                Last edited by vishnukmd; 06-20-2011, 12:29 AM.

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                • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post

                  Lastly, it is true. I am a villager. And that is why I am ‘me’. Most of us villagers are like this; without any pretention.

                  That is why I asked to buy the bike from the main dealer only.
                  You enjoy that privilege despite claiming to be what you are.........

                  I love the GS150R for its uniqueness but had no main dealer in my city to buy from and availing the service.

                  Even though the dealer from whom I bought my bike,gets the vehicles from here........that is how I came to know of this place.

                  And if it is really true that all Suzuki facilities are similar, I have no doubt that Suzuki does its best to offer the best.
                  Trust me, this small town-but big Suzuki workshop had more sophisticated machinery than that of Bajaj Probiking in my city..........no doubt it surprised me.
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                  • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                    I love the GS150R for its uniqueness but had no main dealer in my city to buy from and availing the service.

                    Even though the dealer from whom I bought my bike,gets the vehicles from here........that is how I came to know of this place.

                    And if it is really true that all Suzuki facilities are similar, I have no doubt that Suzuki does its best to offer the best.
                    Trust me, this small town-but big Suzuki workshop had more sophisticated machinery than that of Bajaj Probiking in my city..........no doubt it surprised me.

                    All the facilities and machineries you mentioned plus a cup of nice tea for the customer is available in the service centers of Suzuki. That is why I am always asking our GS owners to approach the sc for repairing works.

                    The mechanics and the workshop supervisor or engineer there is trained by the company. More than that, they are given periodic refresher training courses.

                    The sub-dealerships are under the control and responsibility of the main dealer; not under Suzuki. So the company does not supply vehicles or machineries to these branches or they are technically not aware of these sub-dealers.
                    Last edited by vishnukmd; 06-20-2011, 04:28 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by varunbikerboy View Post
                      I checked the mileage of my GS and found it to be a decent 46.5 kms / litre.

                      I checked by the following method:

                      1) As advised by some of you here, I filled the tank upto the brim. I made a note of the Kms on ODO. (it was 3289 kms)

                      Buy 2 or 3 litres of petrol in a plastic jar after filling fuel up to the brim of the tank. Put the bike on centre stand and try to pour this petrol in to the jar, using a piece of narrow plastic or rubber hose as a siphon. Stop the flow of fuel when the tank is full i.e., when you cannot fill any more and wait for a few seconds and see what happens.

                      This will convince you how incorrect the full tank to full tank method is.

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                      • Mileage

                        Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                        Buy 2 or 3 litres of petrol in a plastic jar after filling fuel up to the brim of the tank. Put the bike on centre stand and try to pour this petrol in to the jar, using a piece of narrow plastic or rubber hose as a siphon. Stop the flow of fuel when the tank is full i.e., when you cannot fill any more and wait for a few seconds and see what happens.

                        This will convince you how incorrect the full tank to full tank method is.
                        Do u mean that the petrol sinks in after being filled upto the brim? I tried to keep it sitll when being filled and saw to it that the level remains constant after a couple of mins of filling.

                        Can u plz suggest a better method of checking mileage..
                        Ride Safe so U can Live to Ride another Day!

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                        • Originally posted by varunbikerboy View Post
                          Can u plz suggest a better method of checking mileage..

                          Take 200-300 ml fuel in a jar available at the sc and connect it to the dry carburetor, set the trip metre to 0 and ride in your usual manner and find out how many kms you can cover with that fuel.
                          This is the only reliable method to find out the accurate mileage of your bike.

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                          • Can any one knows the cost of the GS150R (name) side panel sticker?
                            Someone removed my sticker yesterday from parking space. I enquired at show room they said that they dont have
                            the stock stickers and they said stickers will come by next week.
                            so any one have idea of price?

                            Doubt :
                            Yesterday evening i went to bigbazaar and while coming back my GS is skidded
                            and i have fall at 10KMPH speed while turning right as the ground cement plastering is very smooth.
                            Luckyly i didnt have any scratches and my bike also. there is some neglizable scratches on indicator,guard and headlight.
                            Is lower tyre pressure caused the skid? can some one elaborate it? what may be the cause for skidding at that much lower speed?

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                            • No idea of the sticker though.....but for skidding there are many reasons few of them are as follows:
                              1ue to the low end torque the tyre may roll on at the spot and thus cause skid.
                              2: Due to inadequate tyre pressure it may lose the friction.
                              3: Due to the profile of the tyre also it skids...

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                              • India's first fully DC GS150R.........officially.

                                Yessssssssssss...........yesssssss........yessss !!!

                                Right now I am feeling what Valentino Rossi feels after winning a grueling race.

                                After all......the underestimated bike to many now sports electricals whose levels are up there with some of the best in the market.

                                I would not bore with the details until asked but for now,
                                to achieve this,
                                1.Stator assay has been rewinded with 21 gauge copper wire ,11 feet wire per pole.(more than 9amps charging being provided just at idle rpm)
                                2.Piaggio Ape Rectifier Regulator replaces stock CA series regulator.(does awesome work to regulate the solid charge that is being generated from the DC coil)
                                3.The AC assay has been relayed through ignition to battery.(makes sure that the light switches only work when the ignition key is turned on.)

                                Now, gentlemen please take a look at the pictures of the quality of light generated by the GS150R on stock Halonix 35watt bulb white.
                                Not only is it devoid of the the flickering but also the beam is really sharp......way sharper than what stock GS provides.

                                Now to the pics(forgive the mobile camera picture quality):


                                Stock pilot lights(non-led) on...........street-lighting behind the bike,we are looking at a dark corner of my house.



                                Here comes the low-beam.........the dark corner of my house is now clearly visible.......no flickering, maximum intensity of the RS.110 Halonix lamp



                                Here comes the high beam...........notice the focal change .....the difference similar,thanks to the GS150Rs reflector that it makes sure that we do not beam our light towards the sky or into fellow road user's eyes.


                                As you can see gentlemen,that the instrument console is totally visible and it is showing time,fuel level,odo meter and all.......but the RPM is zero.....which means the engine has been switched off ......you can find the RPM zero on stock GS150Rs with a flickering head light on, only when you want to change the riding modes and you cannot see much on the instrument console except 0kmph...........

                                So experience this new feeling of a GS150R through the pictures of my beloved bike.

                                This goes to my GS150R:
                                The Lord is my shield and I would not yield ,
                                You are a machine but I love you more than myself.
                                Your disgrace is what I cannot take and I have mouths to gape and shut.......
                                That is why I will make you the most famous and unique bike one day

                                Let there be light.......

                                Tomorrow my bike beloved bike gets the 4300K HID Bixenon purchased from the Toyota showroom, the megawhite HID unit features imported ballast and is from a German manufacturer (with this I will click pictures with my fully equipped camera)

                                Step by step to being the only one .....the first one
                                My bike now runs on Motul300V full synthetic without any problem,its DC conversion replicates electricals of OEMs and the next thing is that it is going to be awkwardly fast.............so watch this space

                                My bike can take all my love and hatred(if any-according to others)..........it is better at understanding me......even better than a human
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