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**vishnukmd** · 02-07-2011, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by thefalcon View Post

Hey Madhu, you sure about that part in bold above ?? is it equal to 4 minutes ??
I usually turn off the bike if the signal will be red for more than 15-20 seconds.
Even i'm getting around 47-48 kmpl only.Btw, here's an update thats not so nice, My 3rd tank, which is 90 days old, is rusted at that same spot just inside the mouth, again.

What Madhu meant may be 50 seconds and 40 seconds instead of 5 minutes and 4 minutes, I suppose. May be a typing error.
As you said it is a good practice to switch off the bike, if you have to wait for more than 30 seconds.
Applying coconut oil to prevent rust is not advisable. Instead, fill the tank fully with fuel.
Can you upload the image of the rusted fuel tank?

**vishnukmd** · 02-07-2011, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by venky7 View Post

Took my GS home from the showroom after booking it last month.

Hearty congratulations.

Few issues: The gear shifting is really hard, i can understand since its a new bike but its rock hard when its in standstill.Is that normal?

Normal. Will be OK after a few hundred kms.

sometimes gear indicator is not showing the 0th gear and no neutral light.... it shows blank and at times if the Clutch is pressed and bike is in 1st gear it still knocks even when the bike is stopped.(same issue as stated by BikeLover)

It is a false gear/neutral problem. This will be solved when you get used to the bike and gear shifting.

sorry novice question:
and is the orange light on the console always on even if head light is off?

Yes.

and sometimes their is a 'dhaad!!' sound when i was riding like something is hitting the ground i checked nothing was.

Normal. Possibly from the rear shock absorber. Ignore it.

**thefalcon** · 02-07-2011, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post

What Madhu meant may be 50 seconds and 40 seconds instead of 5 minutes and 4 minutes, I suppose. May be a typing error.
As you said it is a good practice to switch off the bike, if you have to wait for more than 30 seconds.
Applying coconut oil to prevent rust is not advisable. Instead, fill the tank fully with fuel.
Can you upload the image of the rusted fuel tank?

Sorry, i forgot to click pics of the tank, i just cleaned it soon because i didn't want to leave the lid open for long.

But it was definitely more visible than the picture of the tank you posted few pages back.
For reference may be you could see page 223, an old post by Guru_007, but thats an extreme case, in my tank the rust might have been around 10-15% of the rusted tank picture on that page.

Normal. Possibly from the rear shock absorber. Ignore it.

That sound might be the chain hitting against the chain cover too, might be advisable to check that the chain cover has been bolted on correctly.

**MACH50** · 02-07-2011, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post

True. But why cannot consider a bullet 350? For a middle aged, bullet is better than the new generation bikes.

But bullet is heavy for daily commute and on wallet too.........for an average middle aged.

I think new Yamaha SZ-R would be the best suggestion.

**vishnukmd** · 02-08-2011, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by thefalcon View Post

But it was definitely more visible than the picture of the tank you posted few pages back.

Try to keep the tank full. Do not use other oils inside the tank.

That sound might be the chain hitting against the chain cover too, might be advisable to check that the chain cover has been bolted on correctly.

May be. But it produces a metalic sound.

Originally posted by MACH50 View Post

But bullet is heavy for daily commute and on wallet too.........for an average middle aged.

I think new Yamaha SZ-R would be the best suggestion.

But that too has an ultra modern look, which will not be suitable for a middle aged.

**venky7** · 02-08-2011, 12:27 AM

thanks guys for helping out
ah yes that's what i thought too that it was from the shock absorbers...
will try and figure out the exact place next time

**akfara** · 02-08-2011, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post

But that too has an ultra modern look, which will not be suitable for a middle aged.

It may be my observation or not but want to share this ...In my place (town) even old people driving yamaha FZ

**mazaid53** · 02-08-2011, 01:34 PM

help! help! help!

guys need some views on what could be the issue/s..
1. my GS wobbles after 30+Kmph speed...i mean the handle shakes as if wheels are not balanced.
i have checked steering cone for looseness. and handle geometry with cone. nothing seems wrong. I even checked air pressure. it's correct.

my guess: faulty front/ rear tyre OR slightly bent T or fork/s.

2. gears are still hard like anything...i need to hammer the heel shifter to shift.
also strangely sometimes gears does not shift from 2nd to 3rd even after repeated pushing of pedal.

clutch makes dhaad/ thaad noise while engaging from stationary position/ very low speed

my guess: engine oil needs change,pressure plates/ clutch springs not of good quality, faulty gearbox...but bike has run just 270 km

3. all of a sudden bike stops while running when clutch is dep[ressed i.e. bike is neutral/ it even hiccups while riding

my guess: some dirt in fuel or may be some dirt stuck in carb...need to drain it n check.

@all: please let me know if you have any other possible causes for these issues n remedies too.

**MACH50** · 02-08-2011, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by akfara View Post

even old people driving yamaha FZ

So does it in my place,but a few exceptions cannot be the platform to judge and set the norm for many.

I know of certain 65 year old gentleman riding the Yamaha YZf-R1 and 55 yr old gentleman riding the CB1000R.

**Guru_007** · 02-08-2011, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post

guys need some views on what could be the issue/s..
1. my GS wobbles after 30+Kmph speed...i mean the handle shakes as if wheels are not balanced.
i have checked steering cone for looseness. and handle geometry with cone. nothing seems wrong. I even checked air pressure. it's correct.

my guess: faulty front/ rear tyre OR slightly bent T or fork/s.

2. gears are still hard like anything...i need to hammer the heel shifter to shift.
also strangely sometimes gears does not shift from 2nd to 3rd even after repeated pushing of pedal.

clutch makes dhaad/ thaad noise while engaging from stationary position/ very low speed

my guess: engine oil needs change,pressure plates/ clutch springs not of good quality, faulty gearbox...but bike has run just 270 km

3. all of a sudden bike stops while running when clutch is dep[ressed i.e. bike is neutral/ it even hiccups while riding

my guess: some dirt in fuel or may be some dirt stuck in carb...need to drain it n check.

@all: please let me know if you have any other possible causes for these issues n remedies too.

Bro...I think you should get your bike checked by the SVC people...I also bought the bike about a month back....not yet a month....I never faced any problem with the gear......to be frank they are really butter smooth from the first day.....
I oonly find the gears hard after a long drive like about more than 25-30 kms continous...
I am facing the same jerking problem you are facing....it is not the carbureter....but the air block in the tank....
The air is getting blocked in the tank of my bike.....it happens more when the petrol is less....
for example.....if the petrol is nearing the reserve....and I keep driving...the bike starts to jerk....in very very short bursts.....it is very small....but we can feel it....
after riding for some time....if we open the petrol tank lid.....the air pushes the lid so hard that the lid is thrown back in force and the air escapes in a blast....
today i gave for my fisrt service....and told about the problem...they seemed to say that it is a common problem....

guys anybody else faced this problem....??? I mean I never knew such prob exixts also.....

**bond_007** · 02-08-2011, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Guru_007 View Post

Bro...I think you should get your bike checked by the SVC people...I also bought the bike about a month back....not yet a month....I never faced any problem with the gear......to be frank they are really butter smooth from the first day.....
I oonly find the gears hard after a long drive like about more than 25-30 kms continous...
I am facing the same jerking problem you are facing....it is not the carbureter....but the air block in the tank....
The air is getting blocked in the tank of my bike.....it happens more when the petrol is less....
for example.....if the petrol is nearing the reserve....and I keep driving...the bike starts to jerk....in very very short bursts.....it is very small....but we can feel it....
after riding for some time....if we open the petrol tank lid.....the air pushes the lid so hard that the lid is thrown back in force and the air escapes in a blast....
today i gave for my fisrt service....and told about the problem...they seemed to say that it is a common problem....

guys anybody else faced this problem....??? I mean I never knew such prob exixts also.....

I was also experiencing such prob, on seeing this forum, I changed my usual filling stating. This change removed the problem. You can also try that and also try filling it atleast 5 ltrs. That will end the air prob.

**animeher** · 02-08-2011, 04:38 PM

mazaid53: I think only 1st and third problems are really needing attention. Second problem is not much because it is only 270 kms. Anyways you should show the bike to SC.

For third point, the airscrew is not set up properly, hence the shutting down. Have it set properly, or better set it yourself.

Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post

guys need some views on what could be the issue/s..
1. my GS wobbles after 30+Kmph speed...i mean the handle shakes as if wheels are not balanced.
i have checked steering cone for looseness. and handle geometry with cone. nothing seems wrong. I even checked air pressure. it's correct.

my guess: faulty front/ rear tyre OR slightly bent T or fork/s.

2. gears are still hard like anything...i need to hammer the heel shifter to shift.
also strangely sometimes gears does not shift from 2nd to 3rd even after repeated pushing of pedal.

clutch makes dhaad/ thaad noise while engaging from stationary position/ very low speed

my guess: engine oil needs change,pressure plates/ clutch springs not of good quality, faulty gearbox...but bike has run just 270 km

3. all of a sudden bike stops while running when clutch is dep[ressed i.e. bike is neutral/ it even hiccups while riding

my guess: some dirt in fuel or may be some dirt stuck in carb...need to drain it n check.

@all: please let me know if you have any other possible causes for these issues n remedies too.

**mazaid53** · 02-08-2011, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Guru_007 View Post

Bro...I think you should get your bike checked by the SVC people...I also bought the bike about a month back....not yet a month....I never faced any problem with the gear......to be frank they are really butter smooth from the first day.....exactly...why is it so?? for one bike gears are butter smooth..n for other rock hard!!!
I oonly find the gears hard after a long drive like about more than 25-30 kms continous... even i face this problem just after 5 minutes ride
I am facing the same jerking problem you are facing....it is not the carbureter....but the air block in the tank....
The air is getting blocked in the tank of my bike.....it happens more when the petrol is less....
for example.....if the petrol is nearing the reserve....and I keep driving...the bike starts to jerk....in very very short bursts.....it is very small....but we can feel it....
after riding for some time....if we open the petrol tank lid.....the air pushes the lid so hard that the lid is thrown back in force and the air escapes in a blast....logically...if air trapped inside tank is pressurised a bit more than surrounding pressure, then petrol should be pushed in the carb. n remember there's a small hole in every tank lid to allow fuel vapors to escape. I still doubt dirt in fuel

today i gave for my fisrt service....and told about the problem...they seemed to say that it is a common problem....

guys anybody else faced this problem....??? I mean I never knew such prob exixts also.....

Originally posted by animeher View Post

mazaid53: I think only 1st and third problems are really needing attention. Second problem is not much because it is only 270 kms. Anyways you should show the bike to SC.

For third point, the airscrew is not set up properly, hence the shutting down. Have it set properly, or better set it yourself.
bike has started to show this property since yesterday. carb is on factory setting...n for me 1st & 2nd problem are the biggest headaches...they spoil all the fun in riding an otherwise fine machine...

No one has even spoken about why gears are behaving as if there's something stuck between them...and is there anyone facing problem shifting from 2nd to 3rd like me??
someone tell me something about wobbling issue...
anyways thanks guru and animeher for quick replies

**venky7** · 02-08-2011, 07:47 PM

yes mine is also a new GS and i'm facing the gear shifting prob
although my prob was shifting it from 1st to neutral at standstill
it has run 50km, i took it to SVC regarding this and he said it's completely normal all new bike face this prob except some since the chain has not rotated that much and i can confirm that since my friends' Uni and FZ behaved the exact same way.
but make sure u don't handle it harshly due to frustration just try 2-3 times to shift it smoothly don't kick it as it could cause some permanent damage to the blades.(as told by SVC guy)
it will get sorted by 1st service i'm sure.

**Guru_007** · 02-09-2011, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post

No one has even spoken about why gears are behaving as if there's something stuck between them...and is there anyone facing problem shifting from 2nd to 3rd like me??
someone tell me something about wobbling issue...
anyways thanks guru and animeher for quick replies

Bro...to be frank I really do not believe in the theory that the gears are hard when the bike is new and they go on to become smooth....

well I came to know all such things after coming to XBHP.....
But previously also i rode bikes..from college...and many new ones at that.....no bikes gears were hard....its all in the mind that a new bike gears are hard and all that........
I think your prob has nothing to do with the new bike or something....
there is some prob in the gear shifting..probabaly the gear box....it is better to show to the SVC....
And about the wobbling issue it has to be the tyre....or the alloy wheel....no other thing behaves such way.....it has to be a fault inone of the wheels...
Bro I suggest you to go to the SVC ans sit there until they solve all the problems....I did the same thing today....
I had my first service today....and I practially stayed there until they solved all the prblems...well my probs were very small comparing to yours....but I made them big in front of the SVC.....

Go the the SVC at the earliest...sorry for the big post...

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