@vishnukmd: Hmm,initially it requires patience to do perfect gearshifts for ride quality improvement,later it would be habitual.But when I am running about to get my chores done in shortest time I have no mind pressing clutch everytime,I just lower rpms and shift the gear without the clutch where there would be no noise at all.

But one thing,GS150R accelerates very fast(even faster than bikes with bigger engines) at all these instance,my riding style has been grilled to be very fast in every sections of the road,even the braking is likewise.

I hope the others in this forum will actively participate in this discussion about clutchless gear shifting. Let us leave behind this ‘thuck thuck’ and ‘tic tic’ and exaggerated milege for a while.
Mach,
It really is sad to understand that PSR has permanently left this forum. It is a loss. I know the reason but I cannot rectify it. It is beyond my limit.

Why did psr leave the forum....forum as in xbhp or just this thread?

Ive never tried clutchless shifting. Im more on the ignorant side when it comes to technique. Id like to see the conversation on this topic go further though....

Speaking of clutchless shifting, have any of you tried down shifts without clutch ?
I tried shifting 4th to 3rd without clutch, it was bad, it took a lot of force to push the lever down, and to add to it, there was some kat kat sound while shifting too. Felt really guilty that i'm spoiling the gear box.

But up shifts without clutch are awesome, i've not tried 1st to 2nd,
2nd to 3rd it gives slight jerk, may be because the ratio difference between those 2 gears is more, but 3rd to 4th and above its really smooth, i dont do it often though, its better to use clutch and wear out the clutch plates instead of wearing out the gears in the gear box itself.

hey guys: done with 1st service of my GS at 450km.
Hard gears problem: none of mine or anyone else's guesses are correct. it was simply absence of enough lubrication between shifting lever and shaft on which it is mounted on left foot peg. we were all going blah blah over correct shifting rpm, clutch... service advisor @ SC solved it in 5 mins...gears shift just makkhan I am overjoyed
wobbling is still there...SC person has told me he needs to investigate step by step...n it will take some time...so for the time being i'm living with it...
jerks n abrupt engine stops during riding also solved... reason too tight choke cable..
I liked the SC person's approach towards addressing problems....he quietly listens to customer n starts checking for very basic things n moves ahead to more complex ones if necessary...
end of the day, I am happy with my bike and the service.
total service cost Rs. 270 includes engine oil, oil filter, consumables.
FYI: i went to Simran Suzuki @ panvel.
happy riding

Hii guys !!!

Its seems like we are running out of points to discuss . Clutch less shifting was discussed earlier.

If done at proper rpm nothing is better than clutchless shifts, but this can be used to its fullest only when we know when and where to shift like closed circuit races MotoGP. Even then all riders use clutch while downshifting.

When engaged clutch is tightly coupled with flywheel and both of them are rotating at unison. If we use clutch-less up shifting there is little effect to their relative position hence losses are minimum. If clutch is disengaged to shift gear and then engaged it takes a fraction of time for both the clutch plate and the flywheel to get in to unison. So some of the power is lost. For reducing this mismatch high powered vehicles are using dry clutch plates ( maximum performance against durability )

Now in the downshifting, smooth clutchless shifting is very difficult. While upshifting the engine rpm should be lowered to get perfect shift. But while downshifting engine rpm should be increased to get best shift (concept is engine runs faster on lower gears and slower in higher gears, ie at 30 kmph in 1st gear engine rpm will be around 7 K and at 2nd gear rpm will be around 4k )We cannot increase the engine rpm without disengaging clutch.

We can get good momentum by using clutchless up shifts, but bikes stability greatly varies by using clutchless downshifts which is not at all desirable.

Well,I think all other fellow GS-pians including me are not aware of the reason,please share as it could help resolve issues or may justify the cause of his leave.

Other than that I can only assume he has hit some busy schedule in his daily life and would return again sometime later.




As,for the smoothest clutchless shift on the GS,I would note down the rpms the next time I do it again and would also brief my method.

But one thing I must make it clear,it is not a good practice to do clutchless shifts at higher rpms on the GS.My bike never took it without a slight play of clutch at high revs.

Why PSR left ?
Just want to know the reason, we are united and staying here by our own wish.

If his wish differs their is no point in stoping him

Of course he is one of our reliable knowledge bank resource which can't be replace by someone else.
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Regarding clutchless shifting gear

Upshifting is good and works well at correct rpm and method as discussed few hundred pages back, downshifting needs lot of pratice but its not recommended in our loose tracks.

@ vishnu
Was been driven parallel with two of my frinds they are in pulsar and dazzler all speedo shows same speed and kms covered are too same

So no speedo or odo problem

I did used my mobile GPS mobile found a strange thing
Mobile GPS shows 0 while I was driving at 5 kmph speed then even at 20 or 30 kmph speed the difference is 10 kmph

While driving at 35 kmph on odo mobile GPS shows 22 kmph

I think their is a latency delay as the GPS data is transfered thru mobile towers and display latency delays

Any idea ?

When I was doing 60kmph on the speedo,the GPS of my pillion rider indicated that I was doing 58kmph only a 2kmph variation.

I think we are yet to understand the parameters that a GPS takes into consideration while judging the position and momentum of a moving mass at the same time.

Hi All,

I am newbie here. I am a proud owner of Suzuki GS150R (may2010 batch from SMK Suzuki, Saidapet) like the most of you here. About me, I will go in detail in the introduction thread.

I am fairly happy with my 8months old girlfriend, with whom I have travelled about 4000kms so far because I keep shuttling between bangalore and chennai, so I dont get time to spend with her. Will post her pics soon and I hope all are gentlemen here

To start off with, I had been using a Bajaj Discover 125DTS-I which was my Ex-GF. I had to part ways with her as I had to leave for abroad. Once I was back, the search for a new one started and with helps from online reviews and forums, I was almost on to Unicorn then this girl suddenly passed in front of my eyes and thats it... It was love at first sight. One of her cousins lives in my locality owned by someone, I used to drool at her when ever time she passed my house and decided I will go and make one of her cousins as my girl.

So all my search ended there when I saw her. Though I was aware of her health issues that she is allergic to oxygen, still my love for her made me so crazy and I decided to take good care of her and overlooked her problems for her goodness. Then went to SMK suzuki straight away and bought it with hot cash. I was so eager to be with her that I couldnt wait for a bike to be brought from the godown, rather took the one in the showroom straight(not the demo vehicle, rather a new one) and asked the dealer to call me up during registration.

Finally on 29th may our marriage happened at the Meenambakkam RTO and she was legally mine!! Wow!! I just loved that moment. Back home with her was a breeze.

Right now, we are happily living together and yes, my girl hasnt got that allergy to Oxygen and she is perfectly fine. She's been to her parents 7times and so far my in-laws at the service center have been feeding her with good oil and taking good care of her. As time passes my bond with her is simply getting stronger and stronger and she's giving me back the same in terms of ride confidence while on road. She can challenge any other on the road, at times I have gone with her on a 100 mts sprint between signals and always she makes the RTR's and definitely male bikes look like jokers. She has got so much power hidden, one tap, she runs like a stabbed rabbit. I used to think her a soft angel but then realised she is a beautiful beast.

On the other hand, even after such sprints, at the end of the day she is a girl at heart, soft, caring and smooth. I give her a litre of her food and she wont hesitate to take me over 50kmpl.

Woo that was a long story. pics to follow soon..

If the mechanic was mentioning this point, he is not correct. No lubricants are needed here for the smoothness of gear shifting.

I was trying to divert this discussion to something more serious than our usual topics. I am really happy that many of us are participating.

Hearty welcome to this sweet home of ours, the GS owners. As you have promised, please upload some pictures of your GF, especially the rusted parts; I mean her weaker parts.

Rusting.

Now the rusting problem is still there even with the 2010 model GSs. I am absolutely sure that it is common with all the other brands of bikes. But, this fact cannot be considered as a vindication. As we know, thefalcon has changed his tank thrice but the last one too is rusting. Filling the tank fully with fuel cannot be pointed out as a permanent remedy.

So, it is evident that we are constantly suffering this rusting which has defamed GS and have to bring this matter to the notice of Suzuki. This should be done as a group, not as individuals. How can we do it without further defaming our beloved bike?
Pictures of the rusted parts are inevitable. Any suggestions, please?

oil drop on engine oil drain screw

This is what I found on my GS two days ago and shocked but now relieved as its not engine oil.

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Two days back I found a drop of oil on the floor where I parked the bike, got curious to check where it come from; found a drop on oil drain screw (nut) ready to reach the floor.

Also found some oil below the gear shifter found it came from the chain (sprocket) also found it reached the engine oil drain point, cleaned it with a cloth and checked on yesterday and today.

Got relived and happy as their is no trace of oil so got cleared.