Re: Mahindra Mojo Owners Reviews and Experiences

Guys, quick question. How long did the Pirellis last?

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It completely depends on your usage.
My rear tyre was changed at 22.5K KMS and front tyre is still running stock at 27K KMS.
My usage:
- Always prefer riding on good roads (Flat tarmac with no potholes), even if its longer by 5-10 KMS.
- Always filled Nitrogen in both the tyres as per recommended pressure guidelines. (One or twice in a month I top up and once or twice in every 6 months I refill)
- I ride solo like 99% of the time. Out of 27K KMS, I had a pillion for a total of 1000kms max.
- I avoid riding during rain.
- I don't do much of cornering and avoid burn outs, wheelie or anything of that sort which might affect tyre life.
- All the above points don't mean that I ride sedately, I ride quite spiritedly and I touch 100-110 everyday during my commute. I revv a lot and I am mostly the one ahead of everyone else at every traffic signals during my commute of about 75 KMS everyday

Edit:
There are people from the Mojo Tribe who have changed rear tyre at less than 10K KMS and front at less than 20K KMS. Average range for rear is 15K KMS and for front is 20K KMS approximately!

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That sounds good. I am looking at replacing my Duke's MRF with Rosso II. The size is an exact match. My motorcycle spends 90% of its life in Highways.

Thanks for the input.

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This along with the weight of the bike makes it a nightmare. Like I noted on my trip to Masai, on top of the plateau it was slipping and sliding everywhere. On patchy and broken roads its doesn't inspire confidence to go fast, not that it isn't manageable.

Tyres play a big part IMO. Won't know until we change them I guess.

Really enjoyable ride otherwise.

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Hi Tribes(wo)men,


A prospective buyer here and really hoping the Mojo dream becomes reality.


I hate how the manufacturers, nowadays, replace metal with plastic parts to make bike light and fast (!); even the fuel tank enclosure is no exception.
With Mojo, though, as eccentric as I thought it looked in the beginning, I am willing to take the plunge. But, there are a few troublesome questions and I request your help.


I think some/many of the questions are covered here and there throughout the threads and I'm still putting them forth for the latest views.


Suitability: I'm in early Thirties, 5-foot and 9 inches tall, with a slender build (less than 70 kg). I am a sedate rider (Just as Captain Slow from "Top Gear"). My daily commute is 75 kilometres in Mumbai, consisting of bad quality, pothole-filled roads. Some respite may be provided for about 25% of the travelling distance, where there is freedom to speed. There may be an occasional weekend ride with the wife. Given the mostly hot and humid weather, is it worth considering the Mojo, in terms of the mileage, durability and pillion room?


The price: Most important point, perhaps! Honestly, I have been thinking of buying a bike, since before Mojo was launched; however, I couldn't just 'settle' with a Pulsar or Gixxer or Hornet or Unicorn, because the "money-to-comfort" equation never matched (KTMs are not my cup of tea). I would by Fazer 150, if it weren't for the puny tank capacity and felt the price tag was too much for its features. Costing INR 220000 (or more), although Mojo's worth its price, this is going to be the second largest investment of my life and there's obvious resistance from the 'folks'. It's almost the same price one would pay for a small car and hence they are not really supportive. To be blunt, is the investment worth ignoring them?


Durability/Reliability: I don't like changes, am still using a Third generation iPod touch device (that I bought in 2009). So, can I trust Mojo to be my companion even after my child completes their high school (which is not going to be for another 13 years)?


Resale: If I am being rude or ridiculous or out of line, please excuse me. But, just in case I accumulate debts and need to sell my assets including the beloved Mojo, can I rely on it to fetch some of the investment back?


Modifications: I am keen on adequate visibility at night, clean (read "mud-free") rear for pillions and less/no heat directed at the rider. I gather from the posts that there may be more than normal heating experienced in slow traffic and fog lamps are highly recommended. If I instead replace the stock headlights with more powerful ones (perhaps LEDs), what is the maximum power rating it can take before straining/damaging the battery?


Service: I know many owners travel more distances. For me, the nearest service centre is 25+ kilometres and I'd like to know if the servicing takes overnight. I mean, like in a Hero or Honda station, there are tenths of bikes coming in for servicing every day, which means the wait is more. Does it take long to complete the routine service for Mojo?


Only these for now; if I think of more, I'll come back later.

Regards,
KM

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Let me try to answer some of your concerns.

"Manufacturers, nowadays, replace metal with plastic parts" This is wide spread throughout industries. This is done not to cut quality. But to increase efficiency, power and reduce emissions at the same time. This is happening throughout the world in all brands of 4/2 wheelers.
Next gen Norms of BS6 will come in 2019 or maybe 2020. India might skip BS5 altogether and hop onto BS6.
Air in New delhi is not even breathable now. You have to understand that emissions should come down and the only way is weight reduction and improvisation. It is not a bad thing.

Suitability: If you are under 70Kgs, i would recommend something else, because, your are planning to use it for 70KM a day in mumbai in indian traffic conditions. You can ride. There is nothing wrong, but you have to ask yourself. Can you lift your bike up if it falls down? If your answer is no, then you should chose something else.
Heavy bikes put lot of pressure on knees esp in traffic. As you are above 30, why risk?
If you have used P220 or Zma or similar bikes earlier, and if you were comfy then, you could try.

Durability/Reliability: Mojo should be a durable engine, but i am not confident on its availability of spares down the line. Considering the minuscule number of Mojos gets sold now a days. This is true with any product which hardly moves off the showroom shelf.

Resale: Bennelis are not getting sold in used bikes market. i hope you understand where Mojo sits. Expect peanuts when sold. This is not how people buy bikes. If you like it, go buy one for your self.

Modifications: Mojo should be fine. LED's should be okay i guess. Others could comment here.

Service: Mojo is not a complex machine. So, i guess finding service should be easy. but spares could be an issue down the line.

Check FZ25. A light weight machine for City and highways alike.
Check RS200. A good machine with all bells and whistles and a lighter construction.
Check Apache 200. A very good machine if you ride like Captain slow. If you wanna Rip, it doesn't complain at all.
Don't get bogged down by Plastic tank covers and reduced Tank capacity. they are done for a purpose. These machines are durable. and the plastic bits are not cost cutting.

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Hi Kris123456,

Have tried to keep the overall post width less, for reading convenience

It is a deviation from the point; but, let me spend a few lines for this:

First, I was not aware of the enforcement dead lines of various norms, so an honest thanks for the information.
Moving on, I completely understand the commitment to reducing pollution. The thing is, the norms only ask manufacturers to reduce emissions progressively.
The companies decided it is achieved by replacing the bikes' body parts with plastic (or carbon fibre), thereby reducing the weight.
Less weight means less fuel usage and finally the reduction in emission.
But, would you agree this also means compromising the body strength and making a vehicle and/or its occupant(s) prone to more damages in case of mishaps?

One could also work on other sections/parts to meet the rules (FI, filters, catalytic converters).
And I think these are being done, in addition to using plastic-like parts, which are not helping the ex-showroom prices either.

Do you still think the current manufacturing strategy is justified?

I've not ridden any heavy bikes yet (all 150/160 cc ones so far) and, picking it up after a fall, will certainly be an excess workout for me.
I am definitely including this as a part of my test ride (if the dealer allows it!).
Aren't there many Mojo riders above Thirties?

Agree with you on the point of resale value; I should quit whining!

If it's not Mojo eventually, then of the three choices, I'll probably try FZ 25 and the decision will be owing to its mileage.

Regards,
KM

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Haha.. Thanks for Not quoting the Whole post. We could keep posts short. I tried to quote a part, for better readability. This should be pure OT.
I didn't want to debate on this but, this is the reality we live in.

You should read the Tax structure in India.
If a bike costs 1 Lakh, the actual ex showroom cost is ~90K and 10K life tax, insurance and other costs like Regn, Plates.
But in that 90K, there is a 30% GST, which translates to ~62K for manufacturer, including distributors margins, shipping costs, tolls etc etc.
On one side, their wage costs are going up, and on other, new emissions kick in.

For no increase in cost of vehicle, how could one implement fuel injectors, expensive catalytic converters and other hi-tech stuff?
Also, do you think, price we pay for fuel and the fuel quality that we get in Petrol pumps is Justified? For catalytic converters to work, The fuel should be clean. Our petrol pumps dispense water in diesel. and kerosene mixed petrol. That's the level of adulteration we have.

If fuel is not good, The catalytic converters to more damage than good to environment.

For your question on
"Do you still think the current manufacturing strategy is justified?"
Not sure what to say. They are in tough situation. New technology wont work because we have adulterated fuel throughout nation. But products need to meet new norms. Weight reduction is the only way for now.

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Well, when you say such nice things about our Motherland, I have no reason to disagree with you.
(Although, I doubt the manufacturers are in a state of fighting hard for profit/margins.)
Either way, appreciate and commend your insight of the current trend.

If you're a Mojo owner, I would love to know the journey so far (whenever you've time, of course).

Regards,
KM

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I am not a Mojo Owner, but recently sold off my KarizmaR after ~80K Kms on Odo.
Now on Lookout for new bike, so actively online, to better understand these modern machines.


My requirements are as follows:
- It should be able to cruise at ~90 at less than 5000 RPM. (Fine with Little sprocketing, if needed)
- Wheelbase should be long. This is necessary for relaxed Cruising and stability at high speeds.
- Air Filter and Spark plugs should be easily accessible. Don't want to rely on SVC's for basic stuff. I could do some basic DIY cleaning on my own when needed and should be easily accessible.
- Oil change process should be straight forward. No complex opening of plastic panels and fiddling.
- Spares should be easily available. Which means, the bike should be selling above 2K.
- Should be able to sell it off, if needed. so, It should be a running model in market.
- ABS is good to have. All bikes don't have it, so cant make it a deciding factor.
- The lighter the better.


From my learning's, i could say the following.
Mojo
- Runs at high RPM's while cruising. Might not be that fuel efficient too. hardly around 30KPL.
- Spares might be an issue. Cannot comment on its future.
- Not a running model, so wont be able to get rid of it easily, if needed


Apache
- Meets all requirements, but wheelbase is short.
- Screams VFM and TVS motors are Reliable. Period. A bit noisy, with some vibrations, but They last long.
- I am 6Ft tall and Apaches are not meant for tall people.


Pulsar NS/AS/RS
- Air filter is under the tank. Forget DIY, i doubt you get proper service from bajaj ASS for such complex machinery.
- 3 Spark plugs in Total.
- Expect to change some plastic bits, when needed.
- Rest of the package is Awesome.


Dominar
- The VFM King. With All bells and Whistles.
- Reliable Motor, with some minor niggles in earlier production line. Think, they have been fixed by now. All new ones should be good.
- Can only be fixed by Bajaj ASS. I don't think, i can access anything on this. Can't trust Roadside mech's on this beauty.


FZ25
- Can cruise well.
- Easily accessible spark plugs and air filters.
- Modest to better wheelbase.
- Meets all my requirements.

DUKE 390
- It deserves to be named in Caps
- Meets all of my requirements.
- Only need to add an after market wind screen for cruising.
- Some minor niggles and not so smooth ride in heavy traffic conditions. Not at all a deal breaker.
- That beautiful LCD, Those controls to access music and other apps on your iphone.


Now am sitting on the wall, and looking at different products. just need to take a plunge. I am still in confusion. You can help me out here.

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I think the fz25 will best suit your requirements.

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FZ has its own problems.
- Cant modify anything on it. cant even think of adding aux light, for highway rides.
- Expensive parts.
- Tappet noise seems to be the norm of it.

There is another product which is ~15K cheaper and promises
- Cheaper spares
- More power
- Cheaper maintenance costs.
Its the NS200, which again has some problems.
- EuroSlips tires

Thinking of these. Don't know when i will take the plunge and buy one.