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  • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

    Originally posted by rapperswil View Post
    Dear Hornet owners
    Honda bikes usually suffer from cold start problems. My Unicorn used to need choke in the evenings as well.
    How does the Hornet fare in this regard?
    Cold start? I thought global warming cleared that. Don't remember the last time I used the choke.
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    • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

      Originally posted by srinath2494



      No you didn't. I am not supporting Suzuki. Gixxer has it's own flaws. Other Indian manufacturers offer more features than these two Japanese companies and at a lower price point too, well, they have engine kill switch on their premium commuters...and ermm..better switch gear on their bikes as compared to Honda...just compare as150's and rtr's with cbr 150R's...and the 250R from honda doesn't get back lit switch gear while RS200 gets them. I needn't say more. I am gutted about the fact that the owners and honda patrons argue because they couldn't accept what's reality and just want their ego satisfied. That pretty much shows that this argument is going nowhere. You can't change a conditioned mind anyway. I'm off with this. Wouldn't take or say anything, anymore.

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      Haa, yes. Gixxer has its own flaws, so does a Hornet. Many Honda bikes get a cheap switch gear(like, very, very disappointing switch gear). But.. but, shouldn't we be considering lot of other aspects while comparing a bike. And regarding kill switch, it depends on a particular person. I have seen both, people who gave up on Honda bikes just because of the lack of engine kill switch, at the same time, there are people who buy a Honda because of the reliability and the kind of engine Honda has on offer. They just go for it. Bashing Honda completely for just the absence of good and feature-rich swith gear may not be agreeable to many. Neither did I want to offend Gixxer owners nor Hornet's. I do not own any of them.... yet. Cheers mate.

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      • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

        Originally posted by srinath2494
        Hey buddy, I hope you're the racer guy who won 3rd in yamaha's one make championship. If yes, congrats! your race was exciting. And you should be gypsy danger if you're that guy! You should also be knowing from your own experience just in case of a crash on a race track too you can quickly immobilise the engine or whoever trying to take the bike up can.

        On a racetrack you may not need a kill switch and it maybe harmful, accidentally. But it has been put on commuter bikes not only because of the convenience but also for practicality and safety which I have mentioned previously.
        Not for argument's sake but I'm a defensive rider who hate racing on public roads. Moreover, I do know the importance of that single switch coz my bike has one. My usage of it is such that I touch my keys only when I need to get off the bike. Chill out bro..it's the owners who need to realise that they are being played with by the company. I know Honda has good tech but in India, it's just like Honda is 20yrs back. A bike is more than having just a good engine. Just hope everyone realises it soon. If they are happy with it, let them be. Ride safe everyone..

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        • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

          End with the engine switch it's not something you cant live without my sf doesn't has a rear disk I want one but It doesn't means I don't go to 130 or i should stop enjoying what it offers gixxer is great hornet is great fz is not great, in the end we are bikers we don't cry on what we don't have we love our bikes as they are.

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          • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

            Originally posted by Rohit Yadav View Post
            End with the engine switch it's not something you cant live without my sf doesn't has a rear disk I want one but It doesn't means I don't go to 130 or i should stop enjoying what it offers gixxer is great hornet is great fz is not great, in the end we are bikers we don't cry on what we don't have we love our bikes as they are.
            Thanks for reminding us of being bikers last 2 pages we had almost become free advertisers for brand.

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            • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

              I dont get it why people are arguing over OEMS and their products . I mean no two bikes are same even though they are in same segment.
              Gixxer has is handling prowess , while unicorn is known for its sedate riding stance and smoothness.

              For engine kill switch , i agree it should have been a standard feature in bikes , but from a company prospective it wont be needed . Why ?
              Lets say John Doe rides X kms to office and back , here naturally X is more than 8-9kms otherwise he would prefer local transport .
              Unless he gets stop go traffic everyday he wont use engine kill button. But if he had stop go traffic he would pick public transport na ?
              So we can at max speculate why OEM didnt provide kill switch or one can make kill switch and use it .
              I know a guy from cbz/xtreme thread who used kill switch from other bike ( FZ or CBR250 i dont remember exactly ) and wired it accordingly.

              Note : His bike was way out of normal and extended warranty, and guy had stop go traffic 80% of the time.
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              • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                Well Frankly the last 2-3 pages made for an amusing read. Be it for Honda fanboys or for Brand biasedness.

                Well to be Honest i would consider Gixxer if i am less than close to 6'00 and Hornet if i more than that (apparently i am 6'00) . Cause each bike excels in some areas and are a disappointment in some. I also believe a bike is an extension of one's ownself. The bike should be able to justify your personality.
                I have seen taller people on Gixxer's and SF's and the bike surely looks puny in front of them. More like a toybike which we used to ride even when we had become too tall for it. To some people this wont matter. But frankly i consider this as one other aspect of buying a bike. Its just like an ill-fitting branded shirt wont be praised as much as a well-stitched proper fit unbranded shirt. Imagine a Harley being ridden by a skinny guy. I bet you it wont soothe your eyes as much as it being ridden by a well built guy.

                All-in-all, it's good that we have 2 such great bikes which cater to tall people and to short people. The other features are such that can be managed without any qualms. Also you can get a quality engine switchgear in your Hornet or you can tamper with the suspension settings in your Gixxer for the GC issue. But well you cannot increase or decrease the wheelbase. So i guess that is where you should make your decisions. Just my 2 cents.

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                • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                  A gentle request to members to not indulge in keyboard wars!

                  Also, tacking a speed breaker without scraping the bottom is an art learned with time. It's in line with physics and doesn't mean that one just brakes/downshifts and goes over the hump. Nope! One finishes all braking/downshifting BEFORE ascending the hump and accelerates while going over. One would never scrape the bottom.

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                  Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
                  For engine kill switch , i agree it should have been a standard feature in bikes , but from a company prospective it wont be needed . Why ?
                  Lets say John Doe rides X kms to office and back , here naturally X is more than 8-9kms otherwise he would prefer local transport .
                  Unless he gets stop go traffic everyday he wont use engine kill button. But if he had stop go traffic he would pick public transport na ?
                  Say John lives in Bangalore. Assume he lives near his office located in ITPL/Whitefield. Most IT joes live around KR Puram. So, home to office is 10 km one way. Should he take public transport since his office is fairly nearby? Nope! It would take him over 2 hours just to reach office. Maybe 3 while returning back!

                  But I get your point. However I feel its just cost cutting from the likes of Hero/Honda. It's just a convenience feature but actually it helps in stop go traffic.
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                  • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                    Guys I don't own any of the two bikes ( gixxer & hornet ) but I think every bike is unique or has advantages in its own way, inclusion of engine kill switch is like if it's there then it's good but if it's not there then that manufacturer thinks that this segment doesn't require it ( for example- honda cbr250r has a kill switch but cbr150r doesn't have it ).
                    Let's keep this thread on Hornet 160 which is a good bike and hear some lovely ownership experience from fellow riders.

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                    • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                      Originally posted by Rohit Yadav View Post
                      End with the engine switch it's not something you cant live without my sf doesn't has a rear disk I want one but It doesn't means I don't go to 130 or i should stop enjoying what it offers gixxer is great hornet is great fz is not great, in the end we are bikers we don't cry on what we don't have we love our bikes as they are.
                      Why do you say FZ is not great? I know it doesn't provide same power as the others, but is power and torque everything?
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                      • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                        If brand war is done. I have a noob question.

                        Chock vs Multiple kick start: I have not faced the cold start yet on my Hornet. But, In another forum another user is started using chock to start in morning.
                        But, if there would be situation where, either I have to use multiple try to start the bike using kick or just use chock and start in one go. Which should be preferable?
                        Is there any side effect of using chock everyday?

                        My old hunk when, cold start issue started I had to use chock everyday in morning. After few days bike was not starting without chock in morning. However I never felt any issue. Even I was able to start with chock after ~45 days of idle.
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                        • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                          Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post
                          If brand war is done. I have a noob question.

                          Chock vs Multiple kick start: I have not faced the cold start yet on my Hornet. But, In another forum another user is started using chock to start in morning.
                          But, if there would be situation where, either I have to use multiple try to start the bike using kick or just use chock and start in one go. Which should be preferable?
                          Is there any side effect of using chock everyday?

                          My old hunk when, cold start issue started I had to use chock everyday in morning. After few days bike was not starting without chock in morning. However I never felt any issue. Even I was able to start with chock after ~45 days of idle.
                          Purpose of Choke : To block off / restrict air flow to pilot jet , which makes AFR rich (Assuming bike is running ideal AFR 15-15.5:1) .
                          Rich AFR ( 12.5:1 ) is highly combustible ( aKa power tune ) and is helpful in cold starts when bike needs most power to start.

                          Purpose of Kick - Start : To initiate combustion by manual cranking , such in case of failure of electric starter.

                          So technically you should never ever require manual kick start if bike is running good. However using choke to start and closing it and letting bike idle for couple of minutes is most desirable manner of cold starting.

                          NEVER LET BIKE IDLE IN CHOKE FOR LONG , USE IT TO START ONLY. EXCESS FUEL WILL CAUSE LONG TERM DAMAGE BY WASHING OFF OIL FROM BORE !

                          My 3 yr cbz xtreme needs choke to start after hibernation (2-3 months idle storage ) Otherwise no matter how cold or hot it is , it keeps idling at same rpm .
                          Also i use choke only if cold start fails . If bike starts without choke when no issues at all. But regarding your problem following the aforementioned method would ensure good cold start.
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                          • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                            Originally posted by RohIIT View Post

                            Purpose of Kick - Start : To initiate combustion by manual cranking , such in case of failure of electric starter.

                            So technically you should never ever require manual kick start if bike is running good. However using choke to start and closing it and letting bike idle for couple of minutes is most desirable manner of cold starting.
                            Dealer mechanic suggested to use kick in morning, which I am doing it and letting it idle for 30 sec.
                            Should I stick to it or use start switch (with chock, if I face cold start issue).
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                            Honda Hornet 160R Owner's Manual / Serviceshop manual

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                            • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                              Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post
                              Dealer mechanic suggested to use kick in morning, which I am doing it and letting it idle for 30 sec.
                              Should I stick to it or use start switch (with chock, if I face cold start issue).
                              The dealer's suggestion is to make sure battery remains charged. Morning starts require more effort and most people ride short distances making battery remain low eventually losing it's useful life. Also, keeping kicker unused can cause the kicker mechanism to fail at times. In general, if the daily running is sufficient, kick start is not compulsory. Using kicker occasionally to ensure kicker remains in working condition is enough.

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                              • re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                                Delivered the Hornet cbs home yesterday evening!
                                I had to kickstart the bike 4-5 times to start it in the morning.
                                And it was very cold at early morning 4, though.

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