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  • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

    Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
    All Hondas are lightweights. It shows their engineering prowess. For 'Indian' conditions, the lightweighted-ness acts as both a Pro (better mileage) and a Con (some components break away easily).
    I wish we can say this for Headlights

    Look at headlight of "Da Japanese" , my mosquito bat has better but setup than FZ25 headlight
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    Honda Hornet 160R Owner's Manual / Serviceshop manual

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    • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

      Hi all,
      My 2017 Hornet CBS completed 14k km. Also done the first paid service (fourth service) at 13500 km which cost me Rs. 1100 (Oil change, washing, chain lube, something like wax polishing etc.). All these 18 months were comfortable without even a tyre puncture, touch wood. Only (one and only) thing failed in the bike as of now was one position lamp, though I removed both of them for a while from the headlamp assembly, I replaced them during the service. I am getting a fuel efficiency of 45+ kmpl constantly (quit measuring it, as the figures are good for me). Daily ride is of 50 kms both ways (80% rural roads+ 20% city). I used to be a very sedate rider on my HH CD 100SS and on the initial days of Hornet. From the day I stick to riding around 5k rpm, the bike is very lively. Drop one gear, and others will see the X in front of them (Only Pulsars and Dukes try to play with you and I don’t even try to meddle with them since I have other priorities, also may not stand a chance against the maniac machines). Also 60s and 70s comes very easy as mileage accumulates and traversing the rare good stretches on my route is a piece of cake. Suspension is set to hard which improves handling corners and solved my initial concerns on scraping the bottom at the ‘off-road stretches’ here and there. The front brakes are amazing and once saved an old couple and myself, when the former appears in front of me from behind a stopped bus. Rear brakes are good for slow speed maneuvers. At every 1000km chain tightening became a necessity, if you want to be calm and quiet. This is my short ownership experience. Nothing special, just to say I am one of the Happy ones here.
      And during the last visit, service centre advised me to change chain and sprocket at around 15k km as there is no room for tightening further. I would be doing this, maybe with the new sealed chain, soon. Any suggestions on these are welcome. I heard some guys removed one link to tight the chain more and continue using the stock chain. Is this safe? I don’t know.

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      • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

        Originally posted by unik View Post
        Hi all,
        My 2017 Hornet CBS completed 14k km. Also done the first paid service (fourth service) at 13500 km which cost me Rs. 1100 (Oil change, washing, chain lube, something like wax polishing etc.). All these 18 months were comfortable without even a tyre puncture, touch wood. Only (one and only) thing failed in the bike as of now was one position lamp, though I removed both of them for a while from the headlamp assembly, I replaced them during the service. I am getting a fuel efficiency of 45+ kmpl constantly (quit measuring it, as the figures are good for me). Daily ride is of 50 kms both ways (80% rural roads+ 20% city). I used to be a very sedate rider on my HH CD 100SS and on the initial days of Hornet. From the day I stick to riding around 5k rpm, the bike is very lively. Drop one gear, and others will see the X in front of them (Only Pulsars and Dukes try to play with you and I don’t even try to meddle with them since I have other priorities, also may not stand a chance against the maniac machines). Also 60s and 70s comes very easy as mileage accumulates and traversing the rare good stretches on my route is a piece of cake. Suspension is set to hard which improves handling corners and solved my initial concerns on scraping the bottom at the ‘off-road stretches’ here and there. The front brakes are amazing and once saved an old couple and myself, when the former appears in front of me from behind a stopped bus. Rear brakes are good for slow speed maneuvers. At every 1000km chain tightening became a necessity, if you want to be calm and quiet. This is my short ownership experience. Nothing special, just to say I am one of the Happy ones here.
        And during the last visit, service centre advised me to change chain and sprocket at around 15k km as there is no room for tightening further. I would be doing this, maybe with the new sealed chain, soon. Any suggestions on these are welcome. I heard some guys removed one link to tight the chain more and continue using the stock chain. Is this safe? I don’t know.
        Actually I own a 2017 model hornet, I replaced the chain sprocket with 2018 model ,which is comparatively better than 2017 hornet's i.e. chain loosening won't be that much frequent .. about cutting links, I don't have much idea

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        • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

          Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
          No. Am talking about access to fasteners like rear monoshock mounting bolts and something regular like air filter replacement. For airfilter, In Hornet -> you remove seat and 4 x screws. In apache, one has to remove side panel too. The top rear monoshock bolt cannot be removed/tightened in apache without removing the air filter box, further the nut is welded to the chassis/swingarm and can't be easily replaced if damaged. And of course, the front top engine mount can't be accessed with a box socket in apache because the leg guard fouls with it.
          Removal oil filter = easy task

          Cleaning centrifugal oil filter= very hard for diy.

          In some points apache wins while in some points Japanese wins. It's upto consumer which they prefer.

          And i respect you ashwanath sir .

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          • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

            Originally posted by #bpk View Post
            Removal oil filter = easy task

            Cleaning centrifugal oil filter= very hard for diy.

            In some points apache wins while in some points Japanese wins. It's upto consumer which they prefer.

            And i respect you ashwanath sir .
            Cleaning rotor filter is relatively difficult but is done only once every 12k kms. Removal of oil filter is of course easier, the only problem in Chennai is that even the Authorized TVS spare stockist (Ramkay, Adyar) doesn't have some common parts when needed - that's the only thing that prevents me from buying a 1604V now - anyway am planning to TD it too. Am waiting for the April 2019 norms so that I can't make any excuses to avoid ABS. Come April, and 160 4V ABS Fi will be one of the best in the segment. Sometimes I feel, why I give so much weight to DIY, sometimes I feel the carb is a nuisance.

            P.S.: There is nothing wrong in respectfully disagreeing or pointing out a mistake.

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            • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

              Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
              Cleaning rotor filter is relatively difficult but is done only once every 12k kms. Removal of oil filter is of course easier, the only problem in Chennai is that even the Authorized TVS spare stockist (Ramkay, Adyar) doesn't have some common parts when needed - that's the only thing that prevents me from buying a 1604V now - anyway am planning to TD it too. Am waiting for the April 2019 norms so that I can't make any excuses to avoid ABS. Come April, and 160 4V ABS Fi will be one of the best in the segment. Sometimes I feel, why I give so much weight to DIY, sometimes I feel the carb is a nuisance.

              P.S.: There is nothing wrong in respectfully disagreeing or pointing out a mistake.
              And please guide me if anything i said wrong, i always try to learn from you sir, i am young, I've less experience, please don't leave hornet thread [emoji120]

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              • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                Originally posted by #bpk View Post
                please don't leave hornet thread
                Am not going to, I love tickling you . I said it was okay to disagree with me/point out my mistake, you understood the other way round.

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                • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                  I have completed 13k on an October 2017 Hornet.
                  The engine was heating up when it was new. I had it looked up in the ASC. They made some changes which did not help the situation at all, however, the bike started to die after starting up. To this day they have not been able to fix it even after reporting the issue several times. It doesn't matter if it's being fired up in the morning or noon or summer or winter. The initial RPM is so low that the engine dies. Once it heats up, the engine keeps up at about 1400-1500 RPM and runs freely as well. I have installed NGK iridium spark plug. Please advise.

                  PS: Heating has reduced quite a lot after switching to Throttle FS engine oil

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                  • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                    Originally posted by ManishVerma View Post
                    I have completed 13k on an October 2017 Hornet.
                    The engine was heating up when it was new. I had it looked up in the ASC. They made some changes which did not help the situation at all, however, the bike started to die after starting up. To this day they have not been able to fix it even after reporting the issue several times. It doesn't matter if it's being fired up in the morning or noon or summer or winter. The initial RPM is so low that the engine dies. Once it heats up, the engine keeps up at about 1400-1500 RPM and runs freely as well. I have installed NGK iridium spark plug. Please advise.

                    PS: Heating has reduced quite a lot after switching to Throttle FS engine oil
                    Adjust idle rpm.

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                    • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                      Originally posted by ManishVerma View Post
                      I have completed 13k on an October 2017 Hornet.
                      The engine was heating up when it was new. I had it looked up in the ASC. They made some changes which did not help the situation at all, however, the bike started to die after starting up. To this day they have not been able to fix it even after reporting the issue several times. It doesn't matter if it's being fired up in the morning or noon or summer or winter. The initial RPM is so low that the engine dies. Once it heats up, the engine keeps up at about 1400-1500 RPM and runs freely as well. I have installed NGK iridium spark plug. Please advise.

                      PS: Heating has reduced quite a lot after switching to Throttle FS engine oil
                      I have the exact same problem only my bike is new..done just about 3k kms.
                      I have been to asc twice regarding the issue and it didn't make any difference. I now feel they've purposely kept it that way so I keep visiting them with one or the other problem. I am planning to tune the fuel knob in the carburetor by myself now.
                      The only reason I can think of is the engine is receiving less fuel or more fuel. In any case the air:fuel mixture isn't correct and one rev in neutral makes the engine gasp for fuel and die out. The idling is also very uneven with irregular thumps..like the spark plug didn't ignite in one cycle of the piston.
                      Will let you know if I am able to solve it.

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                      • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                        Originally posted by #bpk View Post
                        Adjust idle rpm.
                        It doesn't help. Well it helps in a way..the engine doesn't die out easily but when its warm the idle rpm stays at 3k or even more at times and when changing gears or say holding the clutch down and releasing throttle, say while going downhill...the engine revs up by itself ...rpms climb up or stay at 3-4k instead of going down. It doesn't feel right.
                        Last edited by elviento; 01-23-2019, 11:39 AM.

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                        • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                          Originally posted by ManishVerma View Post
                          I have completed 13k on an October 2017 Hornet.
                          The engine was heating up when it was new. I had it looked up in the ASC. They made some changes which did not help the situation at all, however, the bike started to die after starting up. To this day they have not been able to fix it even after reporting the issue several times. It doesn't matter if it's being fired up in the morning or noon or summer or winter. The initial RPM is so low that the engine dies. Once it heats up, the engine keeps up at about 1400-1500 RPM and runs freely as well. I have installed NGK iridium spark plug. Please advise.

                          PS: Heating has reduced quite a lot after switching to Throttle FS engine oil
                          Originally posted by elviento View Post
                          I have the exact same problem only my bike is new..done just about 3k kms.
                          I have been to asc twice regarding the issue and it didn't make any difference. I now feel they've purposely kept it that way so I keep visiting them with one or the other problem. I am planning to tune the fuel knob in the carburetor by myself now.
                          The only reason I can think of is the engine is receiving less fuel or more fuel. In any case the air:fuel mixture isn't correct and one rev in neutral makes the engine gasp for fuel and die out. The idling is also very uneven with irregular thumps..like the spark plug didn't ignite in one cycle of the piston.
                          Will let you know if I am able to solve it.
                          Originally posted by elviento View Post
                          It doesn't help. Well it helps in a way..the engine doesn't die out easily but when its warm the idle rpm stays at 3k or even more at times and when changing gears or say holding the clutch down and releasing throttle, say while going downhill...the engine revs up by itself ...rpms climb up or stay at 3-4k instead of going down. It doesn't feel right.
                          Guys.... I thinkn you're running lean
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                          • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                            Originally posted by elviento View Post
                            It doesn't help. Well it helps in a way..the engine doesn't die out easily but when its warm the idle rpm stays at 3k or even more at times and when changing gears or say holding the clutch down and releasing throttle, say while going downhill...the engine revs up by itself ...rpms climb up or stay at 3-4k instead of going down. It doesn't feel right.
                            Asc svc to tune carburetor to the default factory setting. But these arrogant mechanics are very hard to make them work, they just told me that vibes are common in this bike since it's a high speed motorcycle. ( i was like WTF) . Then i asked them how uni 150 is so smooth, then the head mechanic told me that because they didn't had balancer, they were smooth, lost hopes on the svc, very bad experience [emoji22][emoji22]

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                            • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                              Originally posted by #bpk View Post
                              Asc svc to tune carburetor to the default factory setting. But these arrogant mechanics are very hard to make them work, they just told me that vibes are common in this bike since it's a high speed motorcycle. ( i was like WTF) . Then i asked them how uni 150 is so smooth, then the head mechanic told me that because they didn't had balancer, they were smooth, lost hopes on the svc, very bad experience [emoji22][emoji22]
                              I too lost hope... I'll try to tune it by myself.

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                              • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                                Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
                                The pilot screw is just below the TPS connector on Hornet. One has to move the EVAP canister out of the way (I think it is held by a rubber cover that has to be moved forward to free it - similar to how CDI unit or starter relay is held in many vehicles) and use a long screwdriver to access the screw.

                                The carb is not buried deep - it is intentionally placed/made to run along the RHS of the vehicle so that it is easy to remove it for cleaning and replace choke cable, etc. In fact, the japs are the best when it comes to designing the access to these components and how everything like a group of wires or hoses are routed and among them, Honda is the best for easy access to components - something the desi manufacturers have to perfect (still).
                                I couldn't figure out for the love of god how to remove the evap canister. Without removing that there is no way to access the pilot screw can't even see it.

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