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Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience
Thanks for the info.Originally posted by tanishq View Post
And someone please answer this one too....Originally posted by ayrus View PostIs the older version of Apache 200 still available? I'm not so fond of the race edition. I loved the minimal looks of the older version.
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Buy the new one and remove the decals. The new version has a lot of fine revisions which can’t be identified easily. Like sprockets, emissions, slipper clutch, gear sensors and even with the ignition mapping.Originally posted by ayrus View PostIs the older version of Apache 200 still available? I'm not so fond of the race edition. I loved the minimal looks of the older version.
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Really!! I thought the updates were merely cosmetic except for the addition of the slipper clutch.Originally posted by deepakmadhivanan View PostBuy the new one and remove the decals. The new version has a lot of fine revisions which can’t be identified easily. Like sprockets, emissions, slipper clutch, gear sensors and even with the ignition mapping.
Is there some source that'd give detailed info about the upgrades in the newer version?
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It’s not like a big upgrade. The very first model has few issues like chain sprocket noise, gearshift indicator error and in very few cases inconsistent performance and fuel economy.Originally posted by ayrus View PostReally!! I thought the updates were merely cosmetic except for the addition of the slipper clutch.
Is there some source that'd give detailed info about the upgrades in the newer version?
V2.0 is fine tuned and they refined few rough edges. The known changes are,
1. Revised ignition mapping for bs4 compliant. So engine refinement and power delivery is improved.
2. Addition of slipper clutch which eliminates the wheel hop and shift noise at high speed downshifts. Wheel hop is very common in v1. 22% lighter clutch effort.
3. Rubber damped inner sprockets which reduces the chain meshing noise which is very annoying in the older models.
4. Revised gear position sensors. ( can be replaced under warranty for older models)
1and2 is a vital when compared to 3&4.Last edited by deepakmadhivanan; 07-12-2018, 09:39 AM.
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Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience
Wouldn't Point 1 be taken care in the BS4 version of the bikes? I believe the ABS version of the bikes have BS4 Compliant engines.Originally posted by deepakmadhivanan View PostIt’s not like a big upgrade. The very first model has few issues like chain sprocket noise, gearshift indicator error and in very few cases inconsistent performance and fuel economy.
V2.0 is fine tuned and they refined few rough edges. The known changes are,
1. Revised ignition mapping for bs4 compliant. So engine refinement and power delivery is improved.
2. Addition of slipper clutch which eliminates the wheel hop and shift noise at high speed downshifts. Wheel hop is very common in v1. 22% lighter clutch effort.
3. Rubber damped inner sprockets which reduces the chain meshing noise which is very annoying in the older models.
4. Revised gear position sensors. ( can be replaced under warranty for older models)
1and2 is a vital when compared to 3&4.
Also, about point 3, i have heard that this too has been fixed in the BS4 version.
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Yes you are right. Version 1 bs4 was very short lived. They’ve launched the v2 shortly after it’s launch.Originally posted by vspraneeth View PostWouldn't Point 1 be taken care in the BS4 version of the bikes? I believe the ABS version of the bikes have BS4 Compliant engines.
Also, about point 3, i have heard that this too has been fixed in the BS4 version.
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I'm stuck with the same question but I have thrown the Hero Xtreme 200R in the Mix here,because it is very competitively and aggressively priced.Comes with Single Channel ABS as standard.Few minus points are that It's not as good looking (not good sounding also) compared to the RTR Twins,That 200cc is the least advanced of the lot.etc.But let me answer your questions hereOriginally posted by ayrus View PostConsidering to buy a bike in the near future. I'm stuck between the Apache 200 4V and the 160 4V. I've ridden the 160 4V.
1) How different is the ride feel (except for some extra power) on the Apache 200 4V compared to the 160 4V?
2) How does the slipper clutch feel exactly? Is it like I pull the clutch lever every time I decelerate or it just kicks in only on hard downshifts? Does it affect engine braking?
3) What is the mileage I can get with 40-60 kmph in the city and 60-80 kmph on the highways? What are the mileage figures of the FI version compared to the carbureted version of the 200 4V?
1) First thing you will notice is the seating and riding comfort from the RTR 160 - More relaxed.The 200 comes with a split seat,clip-on handlebar - You know,A more dedicated aggressive riding position.The 160 isn't as dedicated and feels more comfortable,A lot more comfortable than the RTR 200 when it comes to pillion seat - A relief if you have to accompany people who sit sideways.The 160 has the same chassis from the 200,The Tyre sizes are same too (except for Base variant with rear drum brake - avoid this at all costs),The 200 comes with fatter front forks and a rear suspension from KYB.The 160 comes with slightly slimmer front forks and rear suspension tuned by SHOWA.The 160 is a fantastic handler like it's elder brother.You can really enjoy cornering.It is better than all the other 150-160cc bikes (Except for the R15 V3 ofcourse,which,I doubt even if the RTR200 can match).
2) I couldn't understand your question clearly.But I will say that,Yes,It affects Engine Braking.The RTR 200 with Slipper clutch,The Clutch lever will feel much lighter than other bikes with a normal Clutch.It doesn't affect the smoothness of gear shifting though.It works on hard downshifts - which,if happens on a bike with a normal Clutch,It could possibly harm the engine due to over-rev or worse,even throw you off the bike.I am yet to find the real potential of it's safety aspect in City Traffic,But the lightness of the Clutch lever action,Is a big boon in stop go Traffic.The Safety aspect works when you are riding Fast,approach a corner and make a mistake in shifting down.One more aspect is that it protects many parts from excessive stress that could have caused by a mistake in downshift (Wheel hopping - Suspension,Transfer of power - Sprockets,Chain,Gears,Engine.etc)
3) The Carburetted RTR 160 can get you anywhere between 42-45kmpl in City and nearly 50kmpl in highways at your quoted speeds.The Fuel Injected one should do a bit better (43-47kmpl in City,A bit more than 50kmpl in highways).The RTR 200 though,Gives about 32-35kmpl in City and about 38kmpl in Highways.I would advice against going for the Fi 200.The Carburetted 200 comes with ABS which is truly a life saver.Something that the 160 misses out on.
Hope I have answered your question
[My Motorcycle]
2001 TVS-Suzuki Max 100R
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Hmm.My friend recently got the RE2.0 and he still faces Gear Position Indicator showing the wrong value.Also since it's Carburetted,After a rain,The bike struggles a lot to start.It's done about 450KMS.Yet to get it's first service done.Originally posted by deepakmadhivanan View PostIt’s not like a big upgrade. The very first model has few issues like chain sprocket noise, gearshift indicator error and in very few cases inconsistent performance and fuel economy.
V2.0 is fine tuned and they refined few rough edges. The known changes are,
1. Revised ignition mapping for bs4 compliant. So engine refinement and power delivery is improved.
2. Addition of slipper clutch which eliminates the wheel hop and shift noise at high speed downshifts. Wheel hop is very common in v1. 22% lighter clutch effort.
3. Rubber damped inner sprockets which reduces the chain meshing noise which is very annoying in the older models.
4. Revised gear position sensors. ( can be replaced under warranty for older models)
1and2 is a vital when compared to 3&4.[My Motorcycle]
2001 TVS-Suzuki Max 100R
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Originally posted by a_shirke8 View PostMileage in city for my riding style is 32kmpl
For long runs on the highway I was able to achieve 38 kmpl
(Figures for RTR 200 4V Carb, No slipper clutch)
Theres only about 3-5kmpl more fuel efficiency in the FI variant.
So that should give you a mileage of roughly 40 kms more.
I would recommend getting FI if you go for 200 as it helps in cold starts and its got a minor power bump. But then again its FI and comes with its 'cons'.
I own a 2017 RTR 200 Fuel Injected version and have done 4800 kms on the ODO. My bike is rewarding me with a mileage of 40-42 kmpl in City & 44-45 kmpl on Highways which I think is amazing considering the power that it delivers in low and mid ranges.
(Not a slow rider by the way) . Cheers!!
Thanks,
AjayLast edited by ajayputti; 07-14-2018, 06:42 PM.
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Thats really impressive. What RPM do you generally maintain, maybe other owners(like me) can try the same [emoji14]Originally posted by ajayputti View PostI own a 2017 RTR 200 Fuel Injected version and have done 4800 kms on the ODO. My bike is rewarding me with a mileage of 40-42 kmpl in City & 44-45 kmpl on Highways which I think is amazing considering the power that it delivers in low and mid ranges.
(Not a slow rider by the way)
Thanks,
Ajay
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Around 3000-5000 rpm in the city and 6000 to 6500 rpm on highways. At 6000 rpm I should be doing 88 kmph. But I generally won't like riding with the rules.Originally posted by a_shirke8 View PostThats really impressive. What RPM do you generally maintain, maybe other owners(like me) can try the same [emoji14]
Proper chain clean and lubrication every 500 KMS is the Key. Happy riding.
Attaching Pictures of my bike here.
Last edited by ajayputti; 07-15-2018, 02:23 PM.
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