Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Yes.. I don’t know where the TVS is getting those brakes. It’s completely sub standard.

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Is the vendor for caliper and master cylinder Pricol ?

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Not Pricol... no other compatible options.

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You can either buy the RTR 160 4V Fi or the RTR 200 RE2.0 Carburetted + ABS.

Both bikes can do 80kmhr all day long.The 160 has a more relaxed riding Position with a more comfortable seat,A Single piece seat,So if you have to accompany ladies or old people who sit sideways,That seat would be a boon.The 160 does about 40-45kmpl in City Traffic and close to 50kmpl in highways.The 200 does about 32-36kmpl in City and close to 42kmpl in the highways.The 200 comes with fatter front forks and a rear suspension from KYB.The 160 comes with slightly slimmer front forks and rear suspension tuned by SHOWA.The 160 is a fantastic handler like it's elder brother.You can really enjoy cornering.It is better than all the other 150-160cc bikes (Except for the R15 V3 ofcourse,which,I doubt even if the RTR200 can match).

The RTR 200 with Slipper clutch,The Clutch lever will feel much lighter than other bikes with a normal Clutch.It doesn't affect the smoothness of gear shifting though.It works on hard downshifts - which,if happens on a bike with a normal Clutch,It could possibly harm the engine due to over-rev or worse,even throw you off the bike.I am yet to find the real potential of it's safety aspect in City Traffic,But the lightness of the Clutch lever action,Is a big boon in stop go Traffic.The Safety aspect works when you are riding Fast,approach a corner and make a mistake in shifting down.One more aspect is that it protects many parts from excessive stress that could have caused by a mistake in downshift (Wheel hopping - Suspension,Transfer of power - Sprockets,Chain,Gears,Engine.etc)

Avoid RTR 200 Fi because you cannot get ABS on that model.Avoid RTR 160 Base Variant as it comes with a thinner rear tyre and a drum brake at the back.

One more choice to consider is the Xtreme 200R.

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Can anyone suggest me a good Mobile Holder ? I'm searching online but since the bike has clip on handles, I'm not sure if the holders are compatible.

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HI guys, Sorry for the late update…

Took the delivery of my White Apache 200 4V FI (v1.0) last month. I was waiting for the FI variant of the new Race Edition (v2.0) but looks like TVS is not interested in launching it. My 10-year old Apache 160 FI was giving more problems and the repairs were hitting the wallet hard. It made sense to buy a new one rather than putting money for repairs.

I got the bike from Matrix TVS, Mira Road. The on-road price was negotiated to ₹1,23,000, including accessories, road tax, registration cost. Got the bike within 2 days as it was in-stock. They took almost 2 weeks to complete the registration process. I took this opportunity to replace my Remoras with better, gripper ones. After some research on XBHP, Team-BHP and advice from the local tyre vendor zeroed in on Angel CiTy (CT) for Front and Pilot Street for the rear; the front upsized to 100/80 and the rear upsized to 140/70. The tyre vendor was getting 2015-manufactured Pilot Street; the new stock was unavailable. In the meantime, my registration documents came through and I had to put my tyre upgrade on fast track. Had to settle for Angel CT for the rear also as the Pilot Street was not going to be available soon.

I am riding the bike for 80 Kms. to office every day with a mix of highway and city roads. Completed 750 Kms. till now.

My comparisons would be with respect to my old Apache 160 FI which I have been using for almost 10 years and clocked 89K Kms. There could be features which I might find new but TVS might have implemented in their successive versions over these 10 years.

Let me begin the review of the bike with a big WOW!!!! Absolute pleasure to ride and eagerly waiting to complete the first service. The bike loves to run on higher RPMs. I am consciously trying keep the RPMs under 5K. It is very difficult to restrict the speeds to 65 KMPH. Good thing is that I have to ride 80 Kms. every day to office; my first service will be due by this weekend.

TVS has indeed come a long way with respect to the build quality and ergonomics. The Apache 200 is much better as compared to Apache 160, with very good build quality. The digital console is one of the most attractive part, the white backlit add its own charm. The ride position is quite comfortable with much less pressure on the palms. The right foot peg has been ideally positioned in such a way that the brake pedal does not get depressed automatically. I was facing this problem with the old Apache 160 and needed a conscious effort to avoid it. As complained by many in this forum, the rear brakes are not at all aggressive and lack the bite. I am using both the brakes together and getting very good results. I believe that is the right procedure. The switches are of good quality.

It has been raining constantly in Mumbai for the past two weeks and am riding the bike in wet conditions. The Angel CT pair handles the wet roads very well. I haven’t got a chance to go above 60-70 KMPH, though. Probably once the run-in period is over, I will be able to test the tyres at higher speeds.

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

We have an active whatsapp group for the 200. Come say hi

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Most mobile phone holders are suitable for non-clip on style bars, but with little modification they can be installed. Many people use the clutch/right side mirror mount yoke to mount the holder. Usually, we have two bolts that hold the clutch yoke or mirror stem, it's here where they get bolted. The X type holders models have an extra arm that helps them fix at the clutch yoke.

Try something similar like this.



Cheers!
VJ

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You have had the 160 FI for 10 yrs? Wasn't it launched this year? Was their any FI bike in India 10 yrs ago? I have a 11 Yr old bike and seem to have completely missed it.

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Nvm. Was under a rock.

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Here you go... review on XBHP!!!


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I completed my first servicing on Sunday and the bike is running quite smooth with no vibrations.
Have completed 900 Kms. till now. They changed the oil and lubricated my chain. Total Cost was Rs. 962. Have been asked to keep the speed and RPMs under the run-in conditions till the bike completes 1500 Kms. Not checking the exact mileage but it is around 35-37 KMPL. My riding conditions are mix of city and highway roads.

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I believe you are new to biking. There were 4-5 bikes with FI 10 years ago, Including Apaches & Pulsars. Even R15 is 10 years old in India.

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Guess you missed the comment I posted after. New to biking!! It's like a 20 Yr old telling his dad something similar. Bought my own ride at 23 with my own money. 12 yrs later I still have it. Just haven't kept up with the tech.

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So two years after initially subscribing to this thread and a stint of 2 years outside India, I have finally purchased one!

Lovely matte grey thing of beauty this thing is. But I see enough people have went gaga on the great things, let me start off with things which are bugging me :

1. The side stand is a little awkward for me, on even a slight slope the bike feels a little jittery on the side stand. It has even dropped on a extraordinarily breezy hill top. (No damage whatsoever, had to get the weighted dampener of the handlebar changed though). Maybe the side stand is too far in the front of the bike, I can easily lift the front axle on a slight slope (I'm sure I don't need to explain the side of inclination)

2. No side stand indicator, call it a break in riding habit, but I've forgotten put fold the stand on more instances than I'd like to admit. That might have had something to add to the first point, since the butt of the side stand 'looks' too far ahead of the pivot. I'll ask the ASS to have it compared to factory spec in the next service (due for the second service as I type)

3. Lack of front brake bite/feel - I'm not sure how to put it in words, the braking is progressive, and I know at what pressure the tyre might slip at a certain road speed. But the bite of the initial engagement of the brake is lost, and my fingertips just can't translate the immediate traction of the front tyre during braking. But I have no qualms for the body control under braking, the dive is well controlled, and trail braking is a piece of cake if you're doing 7/10ths.

4. The pillion seat is pretty hard around the periphery - So I saw the pillion seat geometry, pressed my knuckle into the seat, what I was not prepared for, was the hard side walls of the pillion seat. It is a nightmare for anything more than 60km/2hours for the pillion. The geometry is spot-on though, the pillion would be super comfortable on a better seat.

All in all though, 2.5k in under 6 weeks, that too with a Monday-Friday within Bangalore, speaks plenty for how much I'm loving this thing

TL;DR - The author does not intend to give a cocky impression. Much love, few niggles.

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60+ at 5k rpm

80 at 6.5 rpm